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[MorrigansLove]

Hopefully the demo was pre-alpha

[Tasuru]

I felt bad for them, but it didn't evoke a big response from me, it's a demo and it felt like a game mechanic.



However int he full game i expect we'll get to know Hawke's family a lot better before one of them ups and dies. After all, how can you feel anything for someone you've know 5 minutes? Hard to pull off, which tells me there will be more, specifically Lothering, and the escape there of.

[Giant ambush beetle]

The problem is that at the beginning you don't know brother or sister Hawke at all - its just a random NPC dying. And the brief death scene totally lacks emotion, thats just really bad rushed storytelling. When Carver died I was like '' Wow bad luck.... lets move on''.

Modifié par The Woldan , 23 février 2011 - 11:34 .

[MorrigansLove]

HOPEFULLY!

[Layn]

i went "**** my other mage who just learned heal is dead and i get to keep the crappy annoying brother. oh well, i'll survive"

[Jedi Master of Orion]

It wasn't the greatest scene, but what really bothered me was Hawke's inability to show emotion. Looking back at Origins, Duncan flew into a blind rage at Calian's death and unleashed his anger upon that unfortunate ogre. Here, Hawke has a look on his/her face that seems just slightly concerned at the darkspawn, and when they go to the side of their dead sibling they don't seem sad at all. They don't even seem shocked, they just seem eager to get back to the rest of the game. It was quite disconcerting actually. I know we didn't have long to get to know Bethany or Carver but when trying to role-play, I actually got into character enough to care at least a little about them being brutally murdered by a darkspawn, only to realize the character I was trying to get into the frame of mind of came across more like a sociopath who found it more funny than anything.

[MorrigansLove]

Gpd/

[SkyWard20]

why is carver a douche??

[Layn]

oh right, now that i think about this, this is the scene where Hawke said something completely inappropriate, because i chose the option that seemed the best from the paraphrased line. I think it had the diamond icon. what does the diamond mean?

Modifié par Crrash, 24 février 2011 - 12:03 .

[Annihilator27]

I laughed at Carver, I thought it would be slightly serious. But he got owned. The aftermath was more engaging imo.

[MorrigansLove]

So, just to clarify, everyone thinks that the sibling dying was not sad at all due to bad writing?

[Pritos]

I'm preety sure we will get to see more of the sibling's death later at the game, Mama Hawke said: "I won't forget you".

[SkyWard20]

Crrash wrote...

oh right, now that i think about this, this is the scene where Hawke said something completely inappropriate, because i chose the option that seemed the best from the paraphrased line. I think it had the diamond icon. what does the diamond mean?

that's one the game's great mysteries.

[DragonRageGT]

I felt a lot more for the people at Cousland Castle. And for Enzo's brothers in AC2. I actually had to go and collect 100 eagle feathers for "mom" to know I cared! =)

[RPGamer13]

jib524 wrote...



But, that's what makes the sibling relationship fun (and realistic).

Well, my stance has more to do with how I am and like it to reflect in characters I have control over their development. In my head Miss Hawke is megalomaniacal and hates it when anyone opposes her.

[Fangirl17]

I was actually sadder when Wesley died then when my sibling died for some reason. I cared more when Carver died then when Bethany died though.

[kjdhgfiliuhwe]

MorrigansLove wrote...

So, just to clarify, everyone thinks that the sibling dying was not sad at all due to bad writing?

You realize we're not all carbon copies of each other emotionally?

That said, I fully support any changes there may be between the demo and release that might give you sensitive types more grief in that scene. As long as I get to keep the flippant options. 

[MorrigansLove]

This thread has officially been answered. Let's just jope Dragon Age 2 is more emotional that the Demo gives off.

[DTKT]

MorrigansLove wrote...

This thread has officially been answered. Let's just jope Dragon Age 2 is more emotional that the Demo gives off.

Has it? I cant see a Bioware tag under it.

[Xeranx]

I really hate that my sibling's death was tied to my choice of mage or other. Sure I can guess why they did it that way, but the death of one of them should be based on what I do in-game and not what my class is. As it is, I probably won't play as a mage for a very long time and I've been looking forward to actually having a staff wielder in games (martial arts fan in me).

[MorrigansLove]

Bioware just sent me a private message saying "Don't tell anyone, but Dragon Age 2 will be pants and will alienate all our fans. We just want da monies>"

[Ziggy]

It would have taken amazing writing to get us to care about a character we just met dying, but it wouldn't have been so hard to get us to empathise with hawke and her family dealing with the loss.

That's what I don't get - they didn't really seem to mind much, especially Hawke.

Avaline's husbands death was much more affecting.

[maselphie]

Hawke seemed like the person who cared the LEAST about their sibling, I agree. Way to make me a douchenozzle. Seems like they had a huge family Father and twelve other sisters and brothers, lost them all long the way, and by the time Bethany/Carver got Orge-smashed, everyone was just "oh darn another one."



Hurray for sweeping stuff under the rug! Real gamers don't care about story, am i rite!?

[TJPags]

I felt nothing.



I didn't care that I felt nothing.



Honestly, I didn't expect to. Character that is supposed to be my sibling dies within, what, 3 minutes of me actually meeting them? And then we just move on anfd fight more DS. And then Wesey dies.



I felt more in the DE origin, not because we spent more time with Tamlen (maybe we did, but by about 3 minutes) but because it seemed important - there was more dialogue about it later.



As a HN in Origins, you had a chance to interact with your family, although you didn't actually see any die. You also had to leave your parents behind while they were alive. Again, a little more impact.



But I didn't expect to feel anything. Maybe it factors in later - we'll see in 2 weeks. But as of now, no big deal.

[Ninotchka]

MorrigansLove wrote...

Did anyone actually feel for their sibling when he/she died? I sure didn't. I actually think Wesley's death, a NPC we hardly knew, was sadder. Which isn't saying much.

I just remembered that this part of the story is still being told via Varric, yah?

So he must have left out the emotional impact, because you know, he's a hairy-chested, cool as a cucumber, macho dwarf and all that....

So how many times are we going to have to play through that Lothering sequence - just how long will it take Cassandra to drag the real and emotionally impacting truth out of Varric?

Ground Hog Day in Lothering.