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[jayday]

is it any fun ??  is it effective ? whats your fave class?

Modifié par jayday, 24 février 2011 - 01:38 .

[termokanden]

Yes. Yes. Vanguard or engineer, can't decide.

[jayday]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

In short: Yes

cool im gunna use it in my next play trough thanks

[jayday]

termokanden wrote...

Yes. Yes. Vanguard or engineer, can't decide.

i really like vanguard havent tried engineer yet

[WJC3688]

is it any fun ??

Depends on the person. Some people like staying way back and popping heads from outside enemy range, some people prefer to get in the enemies' faces for more high-risk, high-reward kind of stuff. Only way to find out if it's fun for you is to try it.

is it effective ?

Yes.

[jayday]

personally i like staying back with tha sniper but i also like to switch to the rifle now and then in solider class. is the adept class any good?

[SocialKnight]

The adept can be difficult to use on higher difficulties, but I love it,

[thompsmt]

I love being able to take out the bad guys at long range as an infiltrator. My favorite Shep (twice through each game) is an infiltrator.

[jayday]

what about Sentinel ??

[Ares Caesar]

@jayday - Honestly, with each class, the key is just playing to its strengths, and your personal skills. The game is balanced enough that its not as if any class is particularly impossible to use on insanity.



Honestly if you REALLY want to snipe, I would actually recommend playing Soldier with Widow selection (on the collector ship). You get access to a more versatile arsenal, and the damage is better and easier with Soldiers Adrenaline Rush ability.



Infiltrator should be used as the class name itself implies... to "infiltrate" behind the enemy (or flank) so you gain a better position, or literally can put a shotgun 1-inch from the face of an enemy, and blow him away (all guns except snipers gain 100% damage at melee range).



If you use Infiltrator as a "sniper only" class, I think you'll come away relatively unimpressed, because truthfully the "tactical cloak" is best used for battlefield movement and positioning, not just high damage long range sniping. Think of using tactical cloak, in a way that Kasumi does, you get close, throw an elbow (to stagger enemy), then blast away, maybe take down another enemy and then quickly take cover, wait for good opportunity to strike again, cloak, approach enemy and repeat.



I'm not saying you cant snipe with the Infiltrator, in fact I highly recommend you "thin the heard" early on in a wave of enemies by picking off 1-3 guys, then cloaking, approaching for better cover/position (there is also a mid range damage bonus for weapons), and then decloaking and firing away at the last few enemies.



The Soldier class gets better use out of long range shooting, the Infiltrator gets its best use out of complete battlefield control. When you play the Infiltrator, looking for the best points on the battlefield to shoot from (either on the enemies flank, or high ground), or simply sneaking behind the enemy entirely should be key tactical aspects in playing the class.



Its a fun class if you dont expect it to be a sniper only class, if thats all you're planning to do with it, I think you might end up a bit disappointed, hence my early suggestion of playing a Soldier with the Widow/Viper (which is really the best Sniper class).

[Sabariel]

Honestly, I can't decide which class I like better:



Infiltrator: Hanging back with Garrus and shooting people's faces off before they even know I'm there.



or



Vanguard: Charging headlong into Harbinger, shooting it right the face, and yelling "This hurts YOU!"

[Khan the Mad]

Infiltrator, I believe, is a better sniper for a single reason: their slow-motion ability requires no activation. Every time you snipe down on an enemy, you will get time dilation (without the annoying visual effects of Adrenaline Rush, even).



That, and they get Incinerate. Seriously, that is one sexy power. It helps that sniping actually allows you to hit enemies farther away than you normally could if you don't want to waste ammo but still want to annihilate that distant enemy.



Sure, you won't get as much maximum damage with the same sniper rifle, but who cares? You are going to hit much more consistently without bothering with all that Adrenaline Rush thing.

[JaegerBane]

Khan the Mad wrote...

Infiltrator, I believe, is a better sniper for a single reason: their slow-motion ability requires no activation. Every time you snipe down on an enemy, you will get time dilation (without the annoying visual effects of Adrenaline Rush, even).

Same here. The soldier is definitely a better combatant than the infiltrator but I've never understood why people brand it a better *sniper*. As you say, they get a similar slowdown ability but the Infiltrator actually has the ability to *guarantee* that they won't get shot when lining up their headshots.

I don't get it. I certainly felt it made a better sniper than the soldier for that reason.

[RedCaesar97]

JaegerBane wrote...

Khan the Mad wrote...

Infiltrator, I believe, is a better sniper for a single reason: their slow-motion ability requires no activation. Every time you snipe down on an enemy, you will get time dilation (without the annoying visual effects of Adrenaline Rush, even).

Same here. The soldier is definitely a better combatant than the infiltrator but I've never understood why people brand it a better *sniper*. As you say, they get a similar slowdown ability but the Infiltrator actually has the ability to *guarantee* that they won't get shot when lining up their headshots.

I don't get it. I certainly felt it made a better sniper than the soldier for that reason.

In terms of pure damage, the Soldier is the better sniper. However, with the natural time dilation with Sniper Rifles and the Cloak ability, the Infiltrator is a far more natural sniper. 

I think calling either the Soldier or Infiltrator a "better" sniper than the other is dependant on how you define "better".

[Locutus_of_BORG]

Other than the Vanguard and Adept, all the classes can be powerful snipers. Soldier and Infiltrator do the most damage per shot (ARush, Cloak, Widow); Engineer and Sentinel can power snipe, which, combined with reload-casting, can lay down withering amounts of dps / cc / environmental effects.



Engineer snipers can easily dominate the long range game, imo, due to drone-sniping shenanigans.

[Biotic_Warlock]

Best thing i like about infiltrator.



Tactical cloak. =D

[termokanden]

I think it's actually fair to say that Infiltrators are superior snipers in some situations. Late in the game you can one-shot people with the Widow as both as soldier and an infiltrator. As an infiltrator you have all the time in the world to aim and shoot without fear of getting shot. As a soldier this is not true.

Of course when you're not one-shotting things, soldiers can do more damage. The cooldown on Adrenaline Rush is also shorter than Cloak.

But it's certainly not a universal truth that soldiers are better snipers.

Modifié par termokanden, 24 février 2011 - 05:17 .

[JaegerBane]

Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

Other than the Vanguard and Adept, all the classes can be powerful snipers. Soldier and Infiltrator do the most damage per shot (ARush, Cloak, Widow); Engineer and Sentinel can power snipe, which, combined with reload-casting, can lay down withering amounts of dps / cc / environmental effects.

I don't really understand why Vanguards and Adepts can't be good snipers either. Nothing is stopping them from power-sniping either but, most importantly, their powers generally function best against undefended opponents, allowing you to strip defences before they get within target range of your powers. 

[Sparrow44]

Sniper Vanguards are surprisingly fun and versatile I might add.

My setup and playstyle is like this: Charge and SG's of course, Viper to strip defenses from afar then use Pull to expose them and Locust for mid-range and some Pull-Slam combo's just for lolz. Granted snipers on a VG makes for a bit of a niche build but it is one that I've thoroughly enjoyed.

[jayday]

Ares Caesar@ thanks for the insight i thinkl i choose solider if im goin to use the sniper.
tho which class is the funnest to use ?

Modifié par jayday, 24 février 2011 - 07:09 .

[Praetor Knight]

jayday wrote...

tho which class is the funnest to use ?

That depends on how close you like to get to the enemy.

[jayday]

Praetor Shepard@ i guess ya but in the line of adepts/biotics. power orientated classes

[MikeyHramiak]

I'm using infiltrator for my... 5th? playthrough, so far it's the least fun I've used, maybe because I rock the game on casual, (and proud). The only other class I'm yet to use is Engineer, but it doesn't seem that fun.



Sentinel

Adept

Vanguard

Soldier

Infiltrator

Engineer

[Praetor Knight]

jayday wrote...

Praetor Shepard@ i guess ya but in the line of adepts/biotics. power orientated classes

Adepts and Engineers can get pretty close with Singularity and the Drone.

If you like Close Quarters Combat, CQC, then either class can be very fun and forgiving once you have an idea of how to best use the powers.

Adepts can really control the battlefield with their biotics, and warp bombs are fun to watch. I'd suggest checking out this thread for Adepts: The Power of the Adept

Vanguards, the bread and butter is Charge, but Shockwave and Pull are nice to use also. Shockwave on Insanity

For Sentinels they key seems more relying on Tech Armor and annihilating the enemy with your powers and weapons, up close and personal similar to the Vanguard and Claymore Soldier. Here are some Sentinel Videos on YouTube.

And if you go with the Sniper Rifle you can telescope you powers, I don't like playing like that, but that style can be effective.