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#326
NiHau

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falloutseriesfan wrote...

NiHau wrote...

all i can say you my friend are yus't blind less RPG haters wit controllers and button smasher abilities


I mean this in the nicest way possible, but did you flunk school or did you just not go?

Awww its so nice when someone worries about you ,and yes i didn't lear english

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RiverLucky wrote...

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I mean why would you create a sequel with inferior graphics to the original? 


They changed the art style. Some will like it, others wont. I like it.

It's not an action game. They added animations for the different classes, making the game more visceral.

In DAO I found the warrior, archer and rogue boring not in DA2.

Maziou wrote...

Why take a game with strong RPG elements, and make a sequel that plays out more like an action game?


It is still a game with strong RPG elements.

How has it changed as an RPG?





People think the gameplay is all that matters for a game to be an RPG, which is false, we have only seen a 30 minutes gamplay and conversation out of a 50 to 60 hours game and they judge it out of it, its a demo, what did you expect? In my eyes this demo is just to show the conversation wheel and the new combat, both worked fine for me, we have seen small parts of conversations that don't do any justice for the game as a whole, and we didn't see much of the customization or the equipment/items since it was all locked for the demo.

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Am i weird because i liked ME1 ME2 DA:O and from what i played of the demo i'll like DA2? Or maybe i'm just easy to please *shrugs*

Modifié par PyroJack, 24 février 2011 - 03:59 .


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I just don't feel that the demo plays like an action game. For me, it honestly is DA:O with a faster pace. It's not even as fast as Bioware hypes it up. It took me a few minutes to get used to the speed of the enemies and to use leading a bit better, but otherwise...

I think combat is great fun. I just love the acrobatic, over-the-top combat. This is probably my favourite way combat has been handled in an RPG. Even if it was hack and slash, this is the most fun looking hack & slash I've ever played.

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aridor1570 wrote...

RiverLucky wrote...

Maziou wrote...

I mean why would you create a sequel with inferior graphics to the original? 


They changed the art style. Some will like it, others wont. I like it.

It's not an action game. They added animations for the different classes, making the game more visceral.

In DAO I found the warrior, archer and rogue boring not in DA2.

Maziou wrote...

Why take a game with strong RPG elements, and make a sequel that plays out more like an action game?


It is still a game with strong RPG elements.

How has it changed as an RPG?





People think the gameplay is all that matters for a game to be an RPG, which is false, we have only seen a 30 minutes gamplay and conversation out of a 50 to 60 hours game and they judge it out of it, its a demo, what did you expect? In my eyes this demo is just to show the conversation wheel and the new combat, both worked fine for me, we have seen small parts of conversations that don't do any justice for the game as a whole, and we didn't see much of the customization or the equipment/items since it was all locked for the demo.

lol.. omg its not about 30 mins of *** game
its about the game will be that in the Future when shes come OUT you will se {crappy answers} in dialogs and so on only because the kids whant smash the butons not think "logicaly" :whistle:
Ogre killed my sister > oh **** it
:? Do you think its normal i dont
for kids meybe they are already half retards anyway

Modifié par NiHau, 24 février 2011 - 04:00 .


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NiHau wrote...

Ok il give up i can't meke you understand that "MAGE" is not kunfu specialist...
and one-handed-warior can't swin hes sword like light-saber...



I get your point, but I happen to like warriormages, and many of my pen and paper rpg characters are good at hand to hand and magic. Is there really any reason a mage cant be good with hth, staff, or blade?

I will admit I sometimes think 'monks' and 'kungfu' don't fit a particular setting.

All mages don't have to be like a 1st edition dnd mage!

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NiHau wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

RiverLucky wrote...

Maziou wrote...

I mean why would you create a sequel with inferior graphics to the original? 


They changed the art style. Some will like it, others wont. I like it.

It's not an action game. They added animations for the different classes, making the game more visceral.

In DAO I found the warrior, archer and rogue boring not in DA2.

Maziou wrote...

Why take a game with strong RPG elements, and make a sequel that plays out more like an action game?


It is still a game with strong RPG elements.

How has it changed as an RPG?





People think the gameplay is all that matters for a game to be an RPG, which is false, we have only seen a 30 minutes gamplay and conversation out of a 50 to 60 hours game and they judge it out of it, its a demo, what did you expect? In my eyes this demo is just to show the conversation wheel and the new combat, both worked fine for me, we have seen small parts of conversations that don't do any justice for the game as a whole, and we didn't see much of the customization or the equipment/items since it was all locked for the demo.

lol.. omg its not about 30 mins of *** game
its about the game will be that in the Future when shes come OUT you will se {crappy answers} in dialogs and so on only because the kids whant smash the butons not think "logicaly" :whistle:
Ogre killed my sister > oh **** it
:? Do you think its normal i dont
for kids meybe they are already half retards anyway


Did you play the PC demo?

The game plays like DA:Origins. 

If you are complaining about the console version. I would not play a game like DA on a console.

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PyroJack wrote...

Am i weird because i liked ME1 ME2 DA:O and from what i played of the demo i'll like DA2? Or maybe i'm just easy to please *shrugs*

same here.
Or maybe we just do not nitpick and obsess over minor details of a game because we have better things to do in our lives?
All i want from my bioware game is what i always get, A quality story with quality characters and a journey to remember.

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Black-Xero wrote...

How would you know if the game has less RPGs elements? The combat has nothing to do with how much RPG elements it has.I also think that DAII exceeds beyond Origins.


Idunno probably because giving the protag a ****ing voice took out most of it. :innocent:

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bill4747bill wrote...

NiHau wrote...

Ok il give up i can't meke you understand that "MAGE" is not kunfu specialist...
and one-handed-warior can't swin hes sword like light-saber...



I get your point, but I happen to like warriormages, and many of my pen and paper rpg characters are good at hand to hand and magic. Is there really any reason a mage cant be good with hth, staff, or blade?

I will admit I sometimes think 'monks' and 'kungfu' don't fit a particular setting.

All mages don't have to be like a 1st edition dnd mage!


The only class that looked out of place was rogue. He was on crack or something.

I think the other classes benefited from the faster animations.

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NiHau wrote...

Stardusk78 wrote...

NiHau wrote...

 Laiin <3 or wahtever self loving sign..

ahh i smell console user Huh :3 didn't i ?
wel il tell you this
when the matter goes Chose between this and that I mean "DIALOGS"You should Think what is "that" and what is "what" Not using metaphore [BAD GOOD STRONG] like images show you in DA2..secondly im not complaining about graphick details or landscape only >
[CLEARLY IF I WHANTED TO PLAY MASSEFECT I VOULD GO AND PLAY IT OK?]
yeah and the yeah mmm:pinched: Kung fu http://farm4.static....1d3f7db9b_z.jpg
--edit oh i did forget im bad at english so dont meke sarcastic QQ-----


What exactly is your native language?, I am fascinated.

i feel like someone is editing my posts ???
and im Latvian horewer i do know as you must asume Russian
and bit english and Japanese 


Then you are forgiven, Son of Skyrim, go in peace.

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RiverLucky. No i did play PC vers Tho..

but its my opion its not someting like omg hes a troll

burry him only because i find this GAME redicilus

il show you exsample wit bad grammar because they fired me up



FAN SERVICE-------------

Big breasted girls all love that ? dont denie that what can be bad in that

Super Kung fu Mages ain that Awesome ? yeah

Asasins who jumps like matrix movies Wooh

Stupid dialogs , and your like meh i dont care dialogs we have Big brasted girls ,mages goes berserk,and other things ...

omg get real whers this an RPG ?

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NiHau wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

RiverLucky wrote...

Maziou wrote...

I mean why would you create a sequel with inferior graphics to the original? 


They changed the art style. Some will like it, others wont. I like it.

It's not an action game. They added animations for the different classes, making the game more visceral.

In DAO I found the warrior, archer and rogue boring not in DA2.

Maziou wrote...

Why take a game with strong RPG elements, and make a sequel that plays out more like an action game?


It is still a game with strong RPG elements.

How has it changed as an RPG?





People think the gameplay is all that matters for a game to be an RPG, which is false, we have only seen a 30 minutes gamplay and conversation out of a 50 to 60 hours game and they judge it out of it, its a demo, what did you expect? In my eyes this demo is just to show the conversation wheel and the new combat, both worked fine for me, we have seen small parts of conversations that don't do any justice for the game as a whole, and we didn't see much of the customization or the equipment/items since it was all locked for the demo.

lol.. omg its not about 30 mins of *** game
its about the game will be that in the Future when shes come OUT you will se {crappy answers} in dialogs and so on only because the kids whant smash the butons not think "logicaly" :whistle:
Ogre killed my sister > oh **** it
:? Do you think its normal i dont
for kids meybe they are already half retards anyway


Yet again, it's a demo, they showed us mostly the easy parts of the game on normal, DAO was the same for me,the origins, ostagar and the 2 first major missions were easy as **** in normal, just spam potions and your fine, after that it became abit more harder since the difficulty started scaling with the level.


I don't see any key smashing in DA2, many cooldowns(long ones if I must add) except for backstab and evade.

I agree, when the ogre killed our brother/sister hawke showed not a lot of emotions, but that was even worse in DAO, in the Human noble origins when your family almost died the warden didn't show any emotion at all, even more considering he's mute, even Duncan didn't show any emotions(but thats a bit understandable since he almost didn't know them).

and just because someone likes a game it does not mean they are stupid or retarded, you don't like it? thats fine by me just don't start insulting people who do like it, just like on of the dev's said(I dont remember he's name): keep it civil.

Modifié par aridor1570, 24 février 2011 - 04:13 .


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tez19 wrote...

PyroJack wrote...

Am i weird because i liked ME1 ME2 DA:O and from what i played of the demo i'll like DA2? Or maybe i'm just easy to please *shrugs*

same here.
Or maybe we just do not nitpick and obsess over minor details of a game because we have better things to do in our lives?
All i want from my bioware game is what i always get, A quality story with quality characters and a journey to remember.

Agreed bioware have never let me down on any of their games and they can say it's "constructive criticism" but all i see is nitpicking DA2 plays exactly like origins. Seems people are determined to hate any game bioware makes and when they try to change it they complain even more guess bioware can't win

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Merced652 wrote...

Black-Xero wrote...

How would you know if the game has less RPGs elements? The combat has nothing to do with how much RPG elements it has.I also think that DAII exceeds beyond Origins.


Idunno probably because giving the protag a ****ing voice took out most of it. :innocent:

LMAO at your pathetic babble.

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Captain Sassy Pants wrote...


You're completely right. Everything should just homogenize towards the action genre.

Progress!

I agree with the OP, I think they should have gone with a new title, keeping the "old school" appeal of the first for a proper sequel, and giving the people who want a medieval fantasy action game something as well, instead of trying to mash the two together.


This is entirely incomprehensible to me. If BioWare is going to make a game that you are not interested in, what difference does it make what name it has? I didn't play Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance, cause I 've never had a console, nor did it seem like my cup of tea, but it certainly doesn't bother me in the least that it's called Baldur's Gate, the same name as games that I've played for years. I honestly don't see, nor can I understand, why it would. Clearly, you're not getting the game you want to play, but what is the point in asking for the game that you are getting to be set in a different setting? This certainly does not change DA:O at all.

Modifié par Aldandil, 24 février 2011 - 04:15 .


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NiHau wrote...

RiverLucky. No i did play PC vers Tho..
but its my opion its not someting like omg hes a troll
burry him only because i find this GAME redicilus
il show you exsample wit bad grammar because they fired me up

FAN SERVICE-------------
Big breasted girls all love that ? dont denie that what can be bad in that
Super Kung fu Mages ain that Awesome ? yeah
Asasins who jumps like matrix movies Wooh
Stupid dialogs , and your like meh i dont care dialogs we have Big brasted girls ,mages goes berserk,and other things ...
omg get real whers this an RPG ?


its right here.

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Sorry I dissagree 100%.  Graphics look great IMO.  Course when I was 7 I stood in line for the Original Legend of Zelda, so by today's standards, I am more...open.  Second they improved combat, yes combat needed to be more action orientated, if you want it to slow down....find a JRPG.  If you can't stand it, go with auto attack.  So far this game is superior to the original in every way, at least from the console point of view.

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PyroJack wrote...

tez19 wrote...

PyroJack wrote...

Am i weird because i liked ME1 ME2 DA:O and from what i played of the demo i'll like DA2? Or maybe i'm just easy to please *shrugs*

same here.
Or maybe we just do not nitpick and obsess over minor details of a game because we have better things to do in our lives?
All i want from my bioware game is what i always get, A quality story with quality characters and a journey to remember.

Agreed bioware have never let me down on any of their games and they can say it's "constructive criticism" but all i see is nitpicking DA2 plays exactly like origins. Seems people are determined to hate any game bioware makes and when they try to change it they complain even more guess bioware can't win

and il explain it why Because the name DA2 if it vould be Dragon super hero Crow 2 noone vould care and its the truth and if you whant yust say
oh nihau yust go and STFU i will:wizard:

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PyroJack wrote...

Am i weird because i liked ME1 ME2 DA:O and from what i played of the demo i'll like DA2? Or maybe i'm just easy to please *shrugs*

Be proud of being easily pleased! We don't complaine as much Posted Image...but draw back is we have to lisen to annoying people who complaine about everything Posted Image

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PyroJack wrote...

Am i weird because i liked ME1 ME2 DA:O and from what i played of the demo i'll like DA2? Or maybe i'm just easy to please *shrugs*


You're not. Over half enjoyed all according to a poll I think. I would fall in that camp as well. (not sure DA 2 was in that poll though)

Modifié par rob_k, 24 février 2011 - 04:20 .


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NiHau wrote...

PyroJack wrote...

tez19 wrote...

PyroJack wrote...

Am i weird because i liked ME1 ME2 DA:O and from what i played of the demo i'll like DA2? Or maybe i'm just easy to please *shrugs*

same here.
Or maybe we just do not nitpick and obsess over minor details of a game because we have better things to do in our lives?
All i want from my bioware game is what i always get, A quality story with quality characters and a journey to remember.

Agreed bioware have never let me down on any of their games and they can say it's "constructive criticism" but all i see is nitpicking DA2 plays exactly like origins. Seems people are determined to hate any game bioware makes and when they try to change it they complain even more guess bioware can't win

and il explain it why Because the name DA2 if it vould be Dragon super hero Crow 2 noone vould care and its the truth and if you whant yust say
oh nihau yust go and STFU i will:wizard:

Please stop replying to any posts i make or posts with my quotes in them as i have no idea what you are trying to say.
I applaud you for learning a new language but i do not understand you. Sorry.

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tez19 wrote...

PyroJack wrote...

Am i weird because i liked ME1 ME2 DA:O and from what i played of the demo i'll like DA2? Or maybe i'm just easy to please *shrugs*

same here.
Or maybe we just do not nitpick and obsess over minor details of a game because we have better things to do in our lives?
All i want from my bioware game is what i always get, A quality story with quality characters and a journey to remember.


Exactly how I feel.  To me, questions like "Is this game an RPG or an action/adventure game?" are meaningless.  As we've seen in this thread, attempting to give a definitive answer to that question is. . . not easy.

 I would rather ask "Is this game fun?"  After all, isn't having fun the point of playing any game?  Well, arguably not.  I know some people who would say the point of playing any game is to win, but I digress.  In my opinion, the DA2 demo was fun, and I am looking forward to playing the full game.   

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PyroJack wrote...

Am i weird because i liked ME1 ME2 DA:O and from what i played of the demo i'll like DA2? Or maybe i'm just easy to please *shrugs*


You're not weird.  I too liked them all though I think each had areas that I liked better than others.  From what I've seen of the DA:2 demo, I don't really see a reason why it won't be, yet another, amazing BioWare creation.

Course, the exploding animation with the blood is a bit, unnecessary.

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NiHau wrote...

RiverLucky. No i did play PC vers Tho..
but its my opion its not someting like omg hes a troll
burry him only because i find this GAME redicilus
il show you exsample wit bad grammar because they fired me up

FAN SERVICE-------------
Big breasted girls all love that ? dont denie that what can be bad in that
Super Kung fu Mages ain that Awesome ? yeah
Asasins who jumps like matrix movies Wooh
Stupid dialogs , and your like meh i dont care dialogs we have Big brasted girls ,mages goes berserk,and other things ...
omg get real whers this an RPG ?



Not saying you are a troll. I was replying to your post only.

I don't like the misproportioned women either. But it does not make game less of an RPG. I don't like Isabella. I burst out laughing whenever I see her.

Kung Fu moves are a matter of opinion. I like it, you don't.

Dialog options have been limited but there still is a choice.

The game still is an RPG.