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[Amioran]

Ninotchka wrote...
Woah

Are you really talking about humans here? Because this sounds exactly like my three felines... status quo at all costs!!!

They do it in a different way. They just follow their "will" of being felines. Humans instead follow the reason of keeping the things invaried. The first is usually in conformity with the context, the second the contrary.

Now please send me $5 for the mystic consult ;-)

[Hellosanta]

Maziou wrote...

You know perfectly well the graphics are inferior. They are less detailed, with inferior texture work and geometric details, as the examples below illustrate.

Picture of ogre from DA:O
http://tattlerextra....on-Age-Ogre.jpg

Picture of ogre from DA2
http://dragonage.wik...-screenshot.jpg

And before you say, "Graphics aren't everything", nobody disputes that, but taking a step back in any aspect of the game, is a sign of laziness, and a desire to rush out a cash-in at the expense of professional integrity.

I don't see any proof in saying "DA2's graphic is inferior to DAO," in those pic comparison.
When people take a negative position to something, they start to see only negative things. Yes, I'm saying you are blind. Haters are going to hate whatever.

[DaringMoosejaw]

I love everything they're doing, and this is looking like it'll turn out way better than DA:O, another game I very much enjoyed. I guess it just sucks to be you.

[ManiacalEvil]

I don't think I'm playing the same demo as other people. I see a game that is so close to DA2 that the only difference is the voiced character and the faster combat plus improved graphics (let's be honest here, someone posted a ogre comparison a few posts above and DA2 looked miles better).

[NiHau]

Hellosanta wrote...

Maziou wrote...

You know perfectly well the graphics are inferior. They are less detailed, with inferior texture work and geometric details, as the examples below illustrate.

Picture of ogre from DA:O
http://tattlerextra....on-Age-Ogre.jpg

Picture of ogre from DA2
http://dragonage.wik...-screenshot.jpg

And before you say, "Graphics aren't everything", nobody disputes that, but taking a step back in any aspect of the game, is a sign of laziness, and a desire to rush out a cash-in at the expense of professional integrity.

I don't see any proof in saying "DA2's graphic is inferior to DAO," in those pic comparison.
When people take a negative position to something, they start to see only negative things. Yes, I'm saying you are blind. Haters are going to hate whatever.

no we are saying this is cheap cra'p ok ?

[PyroJack]

StormbringerGT wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

Because sequels sell better

And because when a business makes money, its bad?

yep apparently businesses aren't allowed to make money anymore it's evil

[StormbringerGT]

keginkc wrote...

Maziou wrote...

When you try to "mainstream" a series that didn't start as mainstream, then you just lose the people who really loved the original; and the mainstream won't touch it, because they relate the sequel to the original game that they never considered playing.

I'm with you man, 110%.  It's just like Mass Effect.  BioWare really dropped the ball on that one.  Tried to streamline a perfect game to give it higher quality and a wider appeal, but it just didn't work.  It fell flat on its face with the mainstream.  Nobody bought it, and those few lost souls who did hated it.  They should've left well enough alone. 

Or something like that.

The problem with this is look at sales figures for mass effect 1 and then mass effect 2. Mass effect 2 sold a lot more I'll try and dig up a link here for that. In business land anything that sells more equals better. If it sold less that would mean it was a step back if it sold more that means its a step forward. Its not so black and white as that however, but you get the idea. Any company feels this issue as the company itself grows and tries to be competitive in an ever increasing competitive market. That loyal fanbase just isn't big enough always and it has to expand its products to attract a larger fanbase and sustain its larger size.

I'm not taking side here, my opinion is my own, I enjoyed both Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2 but for different reasons.

[NiHau]

PyroJack wrote...

StormbringerGT wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

Because sequels sell better

And because when a business makes money, its bad?

yep apparently businesses aren't allowed to make money anymore it's evil

ehem blame Ea seriusly :3 they yust ruin all 

Modifié par NiHau, 24 février 2011 - 11:48 .

[StormbringerGT]

PyroJack wrote...

StormbringerGT wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

Because sequels sell better

And because when a business makes money, its bad?

yep apparently businesses aren't allowed to make money anymore it's evil

A lot of business do unfair practices to make money. The customer feels cheated and generally will not return with furture business to that company. Its a fail business plan and a cheap cash in to make some money and leave. I don't think bioware is planning on doing this. I can;t speak for them however.

[Moondoggie]

NiHau wrote...

ehem blame Ea seriusly :3 they yust ruin all 

Yes they ruin so much giving a bigger budget to work with.

[DamnThoseDisplayNames]

They are less detailed, with inferior texture work and geometric details, as the examples below illustrate.

Maybe the cause is that there will be more monsters on the screen at the same time.

[Hellosanta]

NiHau wrote...

Hellosanta wrote...

Maziou wrote...

You know perfectly well the graphics are inferior. They are less detailed, with inferior texture work and geometric details, as the examples below illustrate.

Picture of ogre from DA:O
http://tattlerextra....on-Age-Ogre.jpg

Picture of ogre from DA2
http://dragonage.wik...-screenshot.jpg

And before you say, "Graphics aren't everything", nobody disputes that, but taking a step back in any aspect of the game, is a sign of laziness, and a desire to rush out a cash-in at the expense of professional integrity.

I don't see any proof in saying "DA2's graphic is inferior to DAO," in those pic comparison.
When people take a negative position to something, they start to see only negative things. Yes, I'm saying you are blind. Haters are going to hate whatever.

no we are saying this is cheap cra'p ok ?

You start to see something that you don't like, and suddenly all the other changes look so bad, too. That's human nature. As you also find others complaining about the game, you go there and decide to fully agree with haters because you think you are not alone and you feel that you are justified in ranting/whining while you are with them. The horror of the crowd mind, i see. 

[StormbringerGT]

Maziou wrote...

You know perfectly well the graphics are inferior. They are less detailed, with inferior texture work and geometric details, as the examples below illustrate.

Picture of ogre from DA:O
http://tattlerextra....on-Age-Ogre.jpg

Picture of ogre from DA2
http://dragonage.wik...-screenshot.jpg

And before you say, "Graphics aren't everything", nobody disputes that, but taking a step back in any aspect of the game, is a sign of laziness, and a desire to rush out a cash-in at the expense of professional integrity.

Thats sounds an awful lot like "opinion" to me and not fact. especially comparing a screenshot which may have been take on a console and compared to a PC screenshot or 2 different PCs with different hardware and thus different video settings. Or heck. Even a DEMO against a full version...

[Moondoggie]

It's already been said in this thread that sequals make more money. It makes more sense to build on an established title and give fans of that more or what they want than to spend a lot of money on an untried untested formula that might flop badly. Entertainment companies need to be making money to survive they don't exist to throw away money on poorly thought out ideas.

[NiHau]

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Modifié par NiHau, 24 février 2011 - 12:01 .

[Galad22]

Anyone actually finds da2 darkspawn scary, combared to origins darkspawns?



I found da2 darkspawn just silly.

[StormbringerGT]

NiHau wrote...

Moondoggie wrote...

NiHau wrote...

ehem blame Ea seriusly :3 they yust ruin all 

Yes they ruin so much giving a bigger budget to work with.

well they set up bether blour efect glow etc for your wish let it glow and sparkly blood etc
when the other side of realism not like " Da2 demo warior OH" weapon swin'ged like "Star wars SABER?"

I'm not sure what you just typed and what I just read.

[StormbringerGT]

Galad22 wrote...

Anyone actually finds da2 darkspawn scary, combared to origins darkspawns?

I found da2 darkspawn just silly.

I don't think they are scary in either game. different though. The ones in the first game kinda remined me or orcs and goblins from the lord of the rings movies.

[Moondoggie]

NiHau wrote...

well they set up bether blur efect glow etc for your wish let it glow and sparkly blood etc
when the other side of realism not like " Da2 demo warior OH" weapon swin'ged like "Star wars SABER?"

I don't think you can talk about a game with dragons and monsters in it and then talk about realism XD

It's a fantasy made up story in a fantasy land NOTHING about it is realistic

[PyroJack]

true some businesses do make some rather dubious choices to make money but i think bioware would risk losing far too much by effectively screwing their loyal fans over oh and i use the term "loyal" rather loosely..................what? i was kidding haha

[Piecake]

NiHau wrote...

well they set up bether blur efect glow etc for your wish let it glow and sparkly blood etc
when the other side of realism not like " Da2 demo warior OH" weapon swin'ged like "Star wars SABER?"
and Mage was like JEDI ??? oohnow i get it its because mages are "mele kunfu fighters"

huh?

[SudsyPatriarch]

I feel that Dragon Age 2 (demo) was a great disappointment. I was hoping to play some new RPG for my PC, but Dragon Age 2 is a console game, not for PC. I changed my preorder from PC to PS3, since the gameplay was fit for a control, rather than keyboard.

It was disappointing. They said that Dragon Age Origins was a spiritual successor to Baldurs Gate 2. Dragon Age 2 feels more like a successor for Jade Empire.

[Felfenix]

Back in my day, we walked 10 miles uphill in the snow, wherever we went, even backwards, it was uphill both ways. Things aren't as good as they were in the 1950s, where everyone was happy, equal, and got along perfectly with no worries or fears. Damned young folk. Things were perfect when I was a kid. Oh, you're even older than me and remember things differently than through my rose colored graphics? BAH! LALALALA! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!



It's hilarious seeing all the illiterate posts claiming anyone who likes a certain thing is dumb. Yeah, liking one videogame over another sure does make you smarter than those idiots who know how to spell. Even more hilarious are all the people in their teens and early twenties talking about others being "kiddies".

[NiHau]

Ok il give up i can't meke you understand that "MAGE" is not kunfu specialist...
and one-handed-warior can't swin hes sword like light-saber...

Modifié par NiHau, 24 février 2011 - 11:56 .

[keginkc]

StormbringerGT wrote...

The problem with this is look at sales figures for mass effect 1 and then mass effect 2. Mass effect 2 sold a lot more I'll try and dig up a link here for that. In business land anything that sells more equals better. If it sold less that would mean it was a step back if it sold more that means its a step forward. Its not so black and white as that however, but you get the idea. Any company feels this issue as the company itself grows and tries to be competitive in an ever increasing competitive market. That loyal fanbase just isn't big enough always and it has to expand its products to attract a larger fanbase and sustain its larger size.

I'm not taking side here, my opinion is my own, I enjoyed both Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2 but for different reasons.

I was being somewhat tongue-in-cheek.

I loved mass effect 1.  I loved mass effect 2 more, because although I thought the story took a (slight) step back, I thought the game as a whole was better.  

I loved dragon age: origins.  After playing the demo, I think I'll love the sequel more.  To me, it felt like DAO, but streamlined.  More fun.  I enjoyed the combat, I like the changes to the skill trees, I like that it's full voiced, I like the inclusion of the dialogue wheel, and I like the interface (I was one of those who did not like the 'book' from the first game).

It was funny.  My reaction to the DA2 demo felt almost exactly like the first time I played ME2.  "This is like the same game, but...better!  Oooh."

I hope it hits, because I really want a 3rd.