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[nelly21]

NiHau wrote...

its not 
1 of all thers showing > how you whan't to answer "BAD,GOOD or FIERCE"
i mean you dont realy need to think. now only control you "Char" and do whatever and kill all oh your so cool..
and if you say its RPG only because its called and DA2 your wrong the plot is realy out of space...
i say this is yust Cheap made to sell 
yeah i know grammar hurray to me <_<

Do not apologize to these amoebas fellow intellectual!!! Your mind is simply working faster than your fingers!!! It is clear that rpgs have a very specific yet undefinable definition. What's that? There is no such thing as an oxymoron to an intellectual such as myself.!!!!

[NiHau]

PyroJack wrote...

Noviere wrote...

What is y'ust?

It's an enigma wrapped in a riddle with a silly hat

yeah all lol at "Nihau" haha
mede this "OFTP"

[StormbringerGT]

PyroJack wrote...

StormbringerGT wrote...

NiHau wrote...

Hellosanta wrote...

NiHau wrote...

all i can say you my firend are yus't blind less RPG haters wit controllers and button smasher abilities

LOL thanks for giving me so much laugh with your posts. Define the RPG of yours in terms of DA2 mechanics.

dang yus't because my grammar sux how can i explain it to you that this is "Dragon efect 2" ? not "dragon age 2 the RPG?"

you know i will cry

What you are saying is that it is not an RPG to you. It is an RPG to me. RPGS all have different elements that make them RPGS and all these elements are important to some people and not others.

Some people like stats and tables.
Some people like roleplaying and never actually role a dice.
Some people consider anything where you play a role other than your self is role-playing.. go figure...
To some its NPC interaction
To some its your armor looking different. To some rpgers its only the stats of the armor the look never changes.
Some people swear by turn based and some by real time.

The list goes on forever my friend. And some of these are important to others while some are not.

So yes. You are right. This is not a RPG to you. 

And yes I am right. This is a RPG for me.

That is the most sense i've ever seen on these forums it's amazing some people don't realise that not everyone likes the same thing and that a RPG doesn't mean the same thing to everyone *sigh*

I just approach it like I try to approach problems or situations in real life. With common sense and trying to see things from other peoples points of view.

[Hellosanta]

NiHau wrote...

Hellosanta wrote...

NiHau wrote...

all i can say you my firend are yus't blind less RPG haters wit controllers and button smasher abilities

LOL thanks for giving me so much laugh with your posts. Define the RPG of yours in terms of DA2 mechanics.

dang yus't because my grammar sux how can i explain it to you that this is "Dragon efect 2" ? not "dragon age 2 the RPG?"

you know i will cry

I find you cute. In any case, the definition of RPG changed drastically as it has been developed for generations. I think there is no universial definition of RPG. You know, JRPG are pretty different with what "Hardcore" RPG old fans insisting to be RPG. But JRPG is still a RPG. I still take the DA2 as one of the game that has a lot of RPG elements, because it still has moral choices, pc customizations, romances and etc.

[Felfenix]

Riloux wrote...

Risky. They have a huge following with
Origins and they know that we most likely will buy it no matter what
they do. If they developed a new IP with no following with the crap
they're trying to pull now, they have a higher risk of flopping.

It couldn't possibly be because they legimately wanted to make improvements to the game based on feedback, but expand the world, while keeping some of the best aspects of Origins.

StormbringerGT wrote...

NiHau wrote...

all i can say you my friend are yus't blind less RPG haters wit controllers and button smasher abilities

I'm going out on a limb here and guessing that English is not your first language. Nothing wrong with that at all. Just I never know what point you are making much less what you are saying.

He's trolling, or parodying certain posters... depending on your point of view. He's doing a less obvious version of this:

nelly21 wrote...

Oh you simpletons!!! We intellectuals
know the true values of rpgs. Not you!!!! Better combat?
Preposterous!!!! Combat should be dull and slow in order to scare off
the Halo riff-raff. This fast combat is clearly inferior if I, the
aforementioned intellectual, am unable to keep up. Furthermore, the
graphics in the original game are clearly superior to this plebian
fare!!! What's that? No, don't question me!!! I'm the intellectual
here!!!!

[Buffy-Summers]

Herr Uhl wrote...


Two games, and we already have "every time".

Its not two games

Its ME to ME2

Its DAO to DA2

Its Ultima 1 -8  to ultima 9

Its gold box forgotten realms series  to Baulder's gate series

Its the trend for the last 25 years

RPGs get less complex, and more "action packed"

I bet if you looked at the use of Ritalin on a line chart it would directly line up with the Action RPG's popularity

[aridor1570]

monstertrucks wrote...

nelly21 wrote...

Oh you simpletons!!! We intellectuals know the true values of rpgs. Not you!!!! Better combat? Preposterous!!!! Combat should be dull and slow in order to scare off the Halo riff-raff. This fast combat is clearly inferior if I, the aforementioned intellectual, am unable to keep up. Furthermore, the graphics in the original game are clearly superior to this plebian fare!!! What's that? No, don't question me!!! I'm the intellectual here!!!!

Seriously, you sound like a douche...

It's about preference and you can't just insist that an RPG has to be a certain way.

You do understand he's joking, right?

[monstertrucks]

Not until now. HAHA

[StormbringerGT]

NiHau wrote...

PyroJack wrote...

Noviere wrote...

What is y'ust?

It's an enigma wrapped in a riddle with a silly hat

yeah all lol at "Nihau" haha
mede this "OFTP"

Seriously dude if you keep this up your are going to get an internet meme based on you.

"I all ma'de opinion so y'ust haters js gon'na hate!!!"

An example of Nihau speek, similar to leet speak. (replacing o's with 0's)

[monstertrucks]

Awww... come on don't make fun of him. I bet you wouldn't be able to speak another language well either

[Hellosanta]

monstertrucks wrote...

Awww... come on don't make fun of him. I bet you wouldn't be able to speak another language well either

That said, English is my second language.

[StormbringerGT]

Buffy-Summers wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...


Two games, and we already have "every time".

Its not two games

Its ME to ME2

Its DAO to DA2

Its Ultima 1 -8  to ultima 9

Its gold box forgotten realms series  to Baulder's gate series

Its the trend for the last 25 years

RPGs get less complex, and more "action packed"

I bet if you looked at the use of Ritalin on a line chart it would directly line up with the Action RPG's popularity

While RPGs have changed, this is true. However we have dictacted that change. Maybe not me and you, but the consumers and creators have decided this was how it was going to change. Its not so black and white but thats the basis of it.

One can argue how cell phones and even the internet have ruined human interaction on a face to face basis but lets not argue that here.

[Fidget6]

Sequels change. They can't make the same game over and over again. It's too bad that you're not digging it, but many people are. 

[Herr Uhl]

Buffy-Summers wrote...

Its Ultima 1 -8  to ultima 9

Come on, is that "every time" by any stretch of the imagination. What you say here is that it happens 1/8th of the time.

[rob_k]

These arguments on what a RPG is or isn't always make for good conversations where people's views are swayed one way or the other without any arguing at all.

Anyways, I agree people have their different opinions of what an RPG is and isn't. However, if you strip the RPG down to its basic core by looking at the 'R' and 'P' in RPG, I think it's quite easy to come to a conclusion personally.

For me anyway.

As long as you're playing a character who can make decisions/choose dialog and affect the story's outcome, then you're basically playing a role. I don't personally need all of the stats etc., though I do like them.

Now we look at an RPG sub-genre that is the hack and slash one, there's not much chance for actually playing a role in those games (in a lot of them anyway). They have the stats covered though. I guess this is basically why it's a sub-genre.

Anyways, the point I'm trying to make is that as you're allowed to play a role and influence things etc., then that's definitely nailed the 'RP' part of 'RPG'.

And to the OP, I only really have a four word answer for you as to why they decided to make a sequel:

Because they wanted to.

(There's nothing more to it than that and yes, it's a smart ass answer. But it's a correct answer.)

Modifié par rob_k, 24 février 2011 - 12:49 .

[panamakira]

StormbringerGT wrote...

NiHau wrote...

Hellosanta wrote...

NiHau wrote...

all i can say you my firend are yus't blind less RPG haters wit controllers and button smasher abilities

LOL thanks for giving me so much laugh with your posts. Define the RPG of yours in terms of DA2 mechanics.

dang yus't because my grammar sux how can i explain it to you that this is "Dragon efect 2" ? not "dragon age 2 the RPG?"

you know i will cry

What you are saying is that it is not an RPG to you. It is an RPG to me. RPGS all have different elements that make them RPGS and all these elements are important to some people and not others.

Some people like stats and tables.
Some people like roleplaying and never actually role a dice.
Some people consider anything where you play a role other than your self is role-playing.. go figure...
To some its NPC interaction
To some its your armor looking different. To some rpgers its only the stats of the armor the look never changes.
Some people swear by turn based and some by real time.

The list goes on forever my friend. And some of these are important to others while some are not.

So yes. You are right. This is not a RPG to you. 

And yes I am right. This is a RPG for me.

Golden comment. RPG means different things to different people. They are not facts, they're preferences. Deal with it~

[Wintermist]

Just give me the game already. I'm tired of waiting.

[PyroJack]

[quote]StormbringerGT wrote...

[quote]PyroJack wrote...


[/quote]That is the most sense i've ever seen on these forums it's amazing some people don't realise that not everyone likes the same thing and that a RPG doesn't mean the same thing to everyone *sigh*
[/quote]

I just approach it like I try to approach problems or situations in real life. With common sense and trying to see things from other peoples points of view.

[/quote]
Then you are a rarity on these forums some people on here wouldn't know common sense if it hit them with a shovel

[StormbringerGT]

panamakira wrote...

StormbringerGT wrote...

NiHau wrote...

Hellosanta wrote...

NiHau wrote...

all i can say you my firend are yus't blind less RPG haters wit controllers and button smasher abilities

LOL thanks for giving me so much laugh with your posts. Define the RPG of yours in terms of DA2 mechanics.

dang yus't because my grammar sux how can i explain it to you that this is "Dragon efect 2" ? not "dragon age 2 the RPG?"

you know i will cry

What you are saying is that it is not an RPG to you. It is an RPG to me. RPGS all have different elements that make them RPGS and all these elements are important to some people and not others.

Some people like stats and tables.
Some people like roleplaying and never actually role a dice.
Some people consider anything where you play a role other than your self is role-playing.. go figure...
To some its NPC interaction
To some its your armor looking different. To some rpgers its only the stats of the armor the look never changes.
Some people swear by turn based and some by real time.

The list goes on forever my friend. And some of these are important to others while some are not.

So yes. You are right. This is not a RPG to you. 

And yes I am right. This is a RPG for me.

Golden comment. RPG means different things to different people. They are not facts, they're preferences. Deal with it~

Curse you! You said what I wanted to said in a much shorter time period. Plus since its smaller and has less to read it will actually get read more it seems.

[StormbringerGT]

Wintermist wrote...

Just give me the game already. I'm tired of waiting.

Can't they are too busy trying to make sure we are going to enjoy it as little as possible! Donchano?

[SkyWard20]

Maziou wrote...

I really hate when developers take a beloved game and decide to make a sequel that feels like a cheap cashing in of the original.  This is one of those instances.

I mean why would you create a sequel with inferior graphics to the original?  What is the reasoning for that?  Why take a game with strong RPG elements, and make a sequel that plays out more like an action game?  It's like how Paramount tried to make Star Trek cool again by making Kirk a 20-something and skipping all the dialog that makes it a space opera.

When you try to "mainstream" a series that didn't start as mainstream, then you just lose the people who really loved the original; and the mainstream won't touch it, because they relate the sequel to the original game that they never considered playing.

Couldn't you have just made this game and given it a different title, with no lore references to Dragon Age?

If you're not willing to put in the time to make a sequel that lives up to its predecessor (and don't pretend this is an attempt to do just that), then please just move on to a different project.

Since when was Dragon Age not mainstream?

[NiHau]

[quote]PyroJack wrote...

[quote]StormbringerGT wrote...

[quote]PyroJack wrote...


[/quote]That is the most sense i've ever seen on these forums it's amazing some people don't realise that not everyone likes the same thing and that a RPG doesn't mean the same thing to everyone *sigh*
[/quote]

I just approach it like I try to approach problems or situations in real life. With common sense and trying to see things from other peoples points of view.

[quote]
Then you are a rarity on these forums some people on here wouldn't know common sense if it hit them with a shovel [/quote]

meybe thats because not all here got native english knowledge or 2ND
i know russian and latvian i do understand eglish,and bit japanese
but my writing is wrong and i dont understand sarcasm in your writing ...

Modifié par NiHau, 24 février 2011 - 12:50 .

[StormbringerGT]

SkyWard20 wrote...

Maziou wrote...

I really hate when developers take a beloved game and decide to make a sequel that feels like a cheap cashing in of the original.  This is one of those instances.

I mean why would you create a sequel with inferior graphics to the original?  What is the reasoning for that?  Why take a game with strong RPG elements, and make a sequel that plays out more like an action game?  It's like how Paramount tried to make Star Trek cool again by making Kirk a 20-something and skipping all the dialog that makes it a space opera.

When you try to "mainstream" a series that didn't start as mainstream, then you just lose the people who really loved the original; and the mainstream won't touch it, because they relate the sequel to the original game that they never considered playing.

Couldn't you have just made this game and given it a different title, with no lore references to Dragon Age?

If you're not willing to put in the time to make a sequel that lives up to its predecessor (and don't pretend this is an attempt to do just that), then please just move on to a different project.

Since when was Dragon Age not mainstream?

When someone decided it was an old school rpg.

[panamakira]

StormbringerGT wrote...

panamakira wrote...

StormbringerGT wrote...

NiHau wrote...

Hellosanta wrote...

NiHau wrote...

all i can say you my firend are yus't blind less RPG haters wit controllers and button smasher abilities

LOL thanks for giving me so much laugh with your posts. Define the RPG of yours in terms of DA2 mechanics.

dang yus't because my grammar sux how can i explain it to you that this is "Dragon efect 2" ? not "dragon age 2 the RPG?"

you know i will cry

What you are saying is that it is not an RPG to you. It is an RPG to me. RPGS all have different elements that make them RPGS and all these elements are important to some people and not others.

Some people like stats and tables.
Some people like roleplaying and never actually role a dice.
Some people consider anything where you play a role other than your self is role-playing.. go figure...
To some its NPC interaction
To some its your armor looking different. To some rpgers its only the stats of the armor the look never changes.
Some people swear by turn based and some by real time.

The list goes on forever my friend. And some of these are important to others while some are not.

So yes. You are right. This is not a RPG to you. 

And yes I am right. This is a RPG for me.

Golden comment. RPG means different things to different people. They are not facts, they're preferences. Deal with it~

Curse you! You said what I wanted to said in a much shorter time period. Plus since its smaller and has less to read it will actually get read more it seems.

LOL~ I was totally diggin' the last part of your comment.

[StormbringerGT]

[quote]NiHau wrote...

[quote]PyroJack wrote...

[quote]StormbringerGT wrote...

[quote]PyroJack wrote...


[/quote]That is the most sense i've ever seen on these forums it's amazing some people don't realise that not everyone likes the same thing and that a RPG doesn't mean the same thing to everyone *sigh*
[/quote]

I just approach it like I try to approach problems or situations in real life. With common sense and trying to see things from other peoples points of view.

[/quote]
Then you are a rarity on these forums some people on here wouldn't know common sense if it hit them with a shovel[/quote]
meybe thats because not all here got native english knowledge or 2ND
i know russian and latvian i do understand eglish,and bit japanese
but my writing is wrong and i dont understand sarcasm in your writing ...[/quote]

impressive! Thats a lot of  Languages and some of those have multiple dialects especially japanese. I can see how grammer would be confusing. And saracatic on the internet always translates hard.

Regardless its still funny to see you type.