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[Cpt.Kaine]

I've been left very puzzled by the demo, after i played it came to my attention that our Great warden from Origins, the guy who saved Ferelden and killed the Archdemon, has been left completely ignored by this story.. Some new guy comes from Ostagar and rises to power with shiny titles like CHAMPION and so on.. "Change the world forever!" WTF with this sh*t?! i mean where is the true hero, how comes he's completely forgotten and ignored, i know that the decisions we made in the first part will be reflected in this one, but my question is will we ever hear about our gray warden again?Will he be fabled and famous around the world or he will be thrown in the shadow of this new champion?

[Koiruoho]

Kirkwall isn't in Ferelden, though.

[kevin cousland]

youll hear about him but hawke will aparently overshadow him, claiming to be the best hero ever who changes alot of stuff.



but our warden changed alot how can hawke compare, I saved the world from the blight saved the elves retreived the holy ashes. thats just scratching the surface so it makes you wonder what will hawke do to make him more special?

[Dubya75]

Get over it.

[Moondoggie]

Dragon Age is set in a rarther big world. In such a large world many people can do remarkable things not just the grey wardens. And many other stories are told.



Dragon Age isn't a series that focuses on one character rarther it focuses on a world and it's lore.

[Jobinn]

kevin cousland wrote...

youll hear about him but hawke will aparently overshadow him, claiming to be the best hero ever who changes alot of stuff.

but our warden changed alot how can hawke compare, I saved the world from the blight saved the elves retreived the holy ashes. thats just scratching the surface so it makes you wonder what will hawke do to make him more special?

Yes, because the narrative implies it, even if it doesn't seem that way to us.

[Jobinn]

Moondoggie wrote...

Dragon Age is set in a rarther big world. In such a large world many people can do remarkable things not just the grey wardens. And many other stories are told.

Dragon Age isn't a series that focuses on one character rarther it focuses on a world and it's lore.

I hope you're right. I don't want to see Hawke in DA3

[Cpt.Kaine]

Kevin, this is what buggs me.. after you complete so much in Origins,it is not fair to be overshadowed by some other guy that we didn't even hear in our journeys and all of a sudden A NEW CHAMPION RISES, what about the good old gray warden who passed through the dark ritual and didn't die, even if he died he deserves to be in a goddamn legend or something..

Modifié par Cpt.Kaine, 24 février 2011 - 02:04 .

[kevin cousland]

Jobinn wrote...

Moondoggie wrote...

Dragon Age is set in a rarther big world. In such a large world many people can do remarkable things not just the grey wardens. And many other stories are told.

Dragon Age isn't a series that focuses on one character rarther it focuses on a world and it's lore.

I hope you're right. I don't want to see Hawke in DA3

my hawke will die in the end.... or else...

[Jobinn]

Cpt.Kaine wrote...

Kevin, this is what buggs me.. after you complete so much in Origins,it is not fair to be overshadowed by some other guy that we didn't even hear in our journeys and all of a sudden A NEW CHAMPION RISES, what about the good old gray warden who passed through the dark ritual and didn't die, even if he died he deserves to be in a goddamn legend or something..

He is but bioware decided that Hawke's story is more important to the Dragon age franchise

[Osena109]

 great anther troll that just made a account to day to flame Dragon age 2 back to the lock with you nessie

[Grodash]

Warden is a hero of Ferelden, not the entire world I'm afraid, and Hawke is to become a Champion of Kirkwall in Free Marches, which is outside (north from, behind a sea) Ferelden to begin with, so there isn't going to be much connection between two stories I can imagine, but we will see.



After the Ogre battle in the demo when you resolve Wesley being tainted by plague you can learn from Flemeth that the only cure for it is to become a Warden, and when Hawke says they all died in Ostagar (a warrior or rogue Hawke was in Ostagar actually) Flemeth corrects him/her saying not all of them.



It's also impossible to hear about the hero of Ferelden during that time in demo simply because Archdemon isn't defeated yet .

[Dirgegun]

Hawke is the champion of Kirkwall. Which isn't even in Ferelden... <.<;

[Xewaka]

Because clearly, a story that takes place in a different country with different protagonists covering a different conflict and a larger period of time is incompatible with the existance of the Warden.

Modifié par Xewaka, 24 février 2011 - 02:10 .

[kevin cousland]

Grodash wrote...

Warden is a hero of Ferelden, not the entire world I'm afraid, and Hawke is to become a Champion of Kirkwall in Free Marches, which is outside (north from, behind a sea) Ferelden to begin with, so there isn't going to be much connection between two stories I can imagine, but we will see.

After the Ogre battle in the demo when you resolve Wesley being tainted by plague you can learn from Flemeth that the only cure for it is to become a Warden, and when Hawke says they all died in Ostagar (a warrior or rogue Hawke was in Ostagar actually) Flemeth corrects him/her saying not all of them.

It's also impossible to hear about the hero of Ferelden during that time in demo simply because Archdemon isn't defeated yet .

even if your origins guy is the hero of JUST ferelden he did find the fabeled sacred ashes this is global awesomeness which we cant comprehend. to us it would be like jesus rising again. and if you gave dwarves golems then they would eventualy clear the deep roads thanks to you. erm you helping zeveran could make him leader of the crows all the way in antiva. everyone you help will spread your fame somehow by doing well themselves. all in all you should be remembered as greatly as andraste was

[Koiruoho]

Ferelden seems to be regarded mostly as a fetid backwater by the other nations (and only recently freed from orlesian rule, at that) so I don't find it extremely odd that he's not regarded as the savior of the world in other places since the blight lived and died within Ferelden. Also, you don't actually know what Hawke is going to accomplish. The fact that if you don't import a savegame from DAO you have to choose from a default template for you warden also speaks for the fact the warden left his mark upon the world. It might be that they're just handwaving this for practical reasons, though. Just my 2 cents.

[LastFadingSmile]

There is no Warden, only Zuul!

[Riloux]

Maybe not in Ferelden, but very close. There should be a few mentions at least. If the Warden hadn't killed the Archdemon, the darkspawn would have consumed the Free Marches and Hawke along with it.

[Cpt.Kaine]

But the Blight didn't threat only Ferelden, even more i imagine that Hawke will kill Flemeth, which is something that i believe most of us did, so..

[kevin cousland]

flemeth is eternal im guesing

[Xewaka]

Cpt.Kaine wrote...
But the Blight didn't threat only Ferelden, even more i imagine that Hawke will kill Flemeth, which is something that i believe most of us did, so..

Wouldn't be the first time Flemeth lets herself be "Killed". Hell, even Morrigan tells you right after the fact that she (Flemeth) is most likely not dead.

[Dirgegun]

I think the Warden will get mention, especially with the cameos we've heard about...



But it being a different country means there's also a slight disassociation with the blight. For example: someone could save America from a nasty crisis and I wouldn't think too much of it because I don't live there. Yes, I'd think that was wonderful and all, but I would still be more focused on what's happening in my own country. Kirkwall is just more focused on what's happening there, and that happens to involve Hawke.

[Koiruoho]

Riloux wrote...

Maybe not in Ferelden, but very close. There should be a few mentions at least. If the Warden hadn't killed the Archdemon, the darkspawn would have consumed the Free Marches and Hawke along with it.

I'm pretty sure there will at least be mentions, but keep in mind that word does not travel so quickly and tales get twisted in the telling etc. and since the blight was defeated without the help of other nations, it seems probable that they'd just downplay the fact that it could have been much, much worse. Again, this might just be me giving too much credit for the notion that the writers are this concerned about continuity but what can I say, I'm an optimist.

[Zerakus]

The warden should be finished with his tale now, imo. the DA universe shouldn't center around a single person. Not to mention that a good number of Warden stories ended in death.

[Cpt.Kaine]

kevin cousland wrote...

Grodash wrote...

Warden is a hero of Ferelden, not the entire world I'm afraid, and Hawke is to become a Champion of Kirkwall in Free Marches, which is outside (north from, behind a sea) Ferelden to begin with, so there isn't going to be much connection between two stories I can imagine, but we will see.

After the Ogre battle in the demo when you resolve Wesley being tainted by plague you can learn from Flemeth that the only cure for it is to become a Warden, and when Hawke says they all died in Ostagar (a warrior or rogue Hawke was in Ostagar actually) Flemeth corrects him/her saying not all of them.

It's also impossible to hear about the hero of Ferelden during that time in demo simply because Archdemon isn't defeated yet .

even if your origins guy is the hero of JUST ferelden he did find the fabeled sacred ashes this is global awesomeness which we cant comprehend. to us it would be like jesus rising again. and if you gave dwarves golems then they would eventualy clear the deep roads thanks to you. erm you helping zeveran could make him leader of the crows all the way in antiva. everyone you help will spread your fame somehow by doing well themselves. all in all you should be remembered as greatly as andraste was

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