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[Thandal N'Lyman]

Just heard from BioWare's awesome Webmaster, Jeff, and he said "thanks for the heads-up", and that they'll fix it when they next update the FAQ (so maybe soon, maybe never...)

[tallon1982]

Forgive me if this has been addressed already my question is will there be a midnight release for those of us that purchased a digital copy from the EA store or any other store that allows us to download the game?

[Maconbar]

tallon1982 wrote...

Forgive me if this has been addressed already my question is will there be a midnight release for those of us that purchased a digital copy from the EA store or any other store that allows us to download the game?

I believe that EA will allow early downloading. Not sure how early however.

[ErikNilsson]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

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Modifié par ErikNilsson, 28 février 2011 - 10:40 .

[Ash8888]

Understanding that you want to keep your intellectual property safe I have to say that this all seems reasonable to me. No complaints. Thanks for listening!

Cheers.

[Crimea River]

You have to log in one time for the check  per install?  Awesome.     That's pretty much like online activation.    Totally didn't expect that; I expected a daily login or something.  Good to know that those people who don't have Internet/have limited Internet won't be left in the dark.  *gives BioWare and EA a cookie* 

[Seifz]

Crimea River wrote...

You have to log in one time for the check  per install?  Awesome.     That's pretty much like online activation.    Totally didn't expect that; I expected a daily login or something.  Good to know that those people who don't have Internet/have limited Internet won't be left in the dark.  *gives BioWare and EA a cookie*

That's only true if you disconnect your PC from the Internet after the first authentication.  Otherwise, the game still phones home periodically and sends who knows what information when it does so.

[AlanC9]

They're actually pretty upfront about collecting information:

A. What Types of Non-Personal Information Does EA Collect?

When you use EA online and mobile products and services or you play our games on your PC or game system, we may collect certain non-personal demographic information including gender, zip code, information about your computer, hardware, software, platform, game system, media, mobile device, including device IDs, incident data, Internet Protocol (IP) address, network Media Access Control (MAC) address and connection. We also collect other non-personal information such as feature usage, game play statistics, scores and achievements, user rankings and click paths as well as other data that you may provide in surveys, via your account preferences and online profiles such as friends lists or purchases, for instance. We may also receive either non-personal or public information from third parties in connection with market and demographic studies that we use to supplement personal information provided directly by you.

Yeah, Seifz, I know you've read this stuff before.

[Seifz]

AlanC9 wrote...

They're actually pretty upfront about collecting information:

A. What Types of Non-Personal Information Does EA Collect?

When you use EA online and mobile products and services or you play our games on your PC or game system, we may collect certain non-personal demographic information including gender, zip code, information about your computer, hardware, software, platform, game system, media, mobile device, including device IDs, incident data, Internet Protocol (IP) address, network Media Access Control (MAC) address and connection. We also collect other non-personal information such as feature usage, game play statistics, scores and achievements, user rankings and click paths as well as other data that you may provide in surveys, via your account preferences and online profiles such as friends lists or purchases, for instance. We may also receive either non-personal or public information from third parties in connection with market and demographic studies that we use to supplement personal information provided directly by you.

Yeah, Seifz, I know you've read this stuff before.

But did you?  That's an absurd amount of information!  And it's not really non-personal since they're just combining it with the personal information we've already given them.  Do you really like the idea of a company like EA having all this information about you?  What programs you use, what websites you visit, how you use your computer?

Why is everyone okay with this?

[MartinPham]

Seifz wrote...
But did you?  That's an absurd amount of information!  And it's not really non-personal since they're just combining it with the personal information we've already given them.  Do you really like the idea of a company like EA having all this information about you?  What programs you use, what websites you visit, how you use your computer?

Why is everyone okay with this?

I'm not. And it's good you're asking the hard questions because not all the questions raised about the DRM (revision) implemented in DA2 have not been answered - even by Chris himself.

Personally, there's little incentive in this, only concessions which a lot of people, apparently, are willing to forgo just to play this game. Whether the softest of DRM schemes implemented means nothing if people aren't given assurances that it's safe, that people know what and how it will affect them and their PC and that people can play this game without binding themselves to a 28-page EULA that highlights further restrictions such as the basic permission to perform a backup copy.

If I can't even make a copy for myself just in case the original is 'worn out', then what's the point? I can't take it to a shop for a refund and RTM doesn't apply from where I'm coming from. The EULA itself states that it's simply applicable to the US for a 30-day period (unless I'm mistaken). So what then?

Anyway, I'm digressing here. The point is there's still too little (for me at least) to be convinced with DA2's DRM. Now, I'm not being unreasonable. DRM will always be a part of gaming, even the harsh ones.

But when you have the same parent company selling a game (Dead Space 2) without telling Consumers that another DRM was implemented (SecuROM), then you have every reason to be cautious, wary and hesitant in taking their word.

[Eollodwyn]

So if there's no disc check, can two people play at the same time (whether they are logged in or not)?  My mother and I play the same computer games and we were hoping we could just use one copy of the game instead of spending another $60, especially since I preordered the SE.  Will she be able to use the SE content if we both play on my account?

[Twaddlefish]

There's no reason why not. Just start up a second character on a different machine, I think the cutoff is 5 machines over a 24 hour period.

[ToJKa1]

Seifz wrote...

Why is everyone okay with this?

I'm poor and boring. There's no justification for EA to spend money to study any data in-depth they may collect from me. Im just customer #4526842

[LoneStalker]

MartinPham wrote...

If I can't even make a copy for myself just in case the original is 'worn out', then what's the point? I can't take it to a shop for a refund and RTM doesn't apply from where I'm coming from. The EULA itself states that it's simply applicable to the US for a 30-day period (unless I'm mistaken). So what then?

I was worried about this too when I bought Origins. I'm keeping my disks in a safe place now since I lost many good  CD/DVDs for various reasons. Then I read someone mentioning the EA Download Manager. 
I installed it, registered my CD-key to EADM and I noticed I can indeed download the digital version through it even though I own a retail version. (Since my DVD is still working, I didn't try it out actually.) 

If the same thing can be done with DA2, it'll be useful, I think.   

[RUDAL]

I don't know if I should mention Blizzard here but why don't everyone do what they did.
You buy a game box or digital register it if needed for your account and don't have to worry, as long as the company exists and the game is supported you can download client from anywhere you like.
I'm a collector type and I like all those boxes, extra CD's and DVD's but I don't have nightmares at night cause I know that if any of my games will be eaten by my neighbours dog I can always download it again from web.

[BlitzCA]

one question though : is it possible to buy the deluxe version of the game and be able to use all steam feature ?

[Seifz]

RUDAL wrote...

I don't know if I should mention Blizzard here but why don't everyone do what they did.
You buy a game box or digital register it if needed for your account and don't have to worry, as long as the company exists and the game is supported you can download client from anywhere you like.
I'm a collector type and I like all those boxes, extra CD's and DVD's but I don't have nightmares at night cause I know that if any of my games will be eaten by my neighbours dog I can always download it again from web.

EA does do this.  At least, they did for DA:O.  I don't know about their other games.  All you need to do is tie the game to your EA account and then you can download it from the EA store even if you bought a retail copy.

Anyway, it's not about EA becoming interested in you personally.  It's about EA collecting that information, selling it to other companies (making money off of you just so you can play the game that you already paid them for), and then those companies using that information for directed advertising and making even more money off of you.  Additionally, the more companies with your information, the greater the chance it'll be accidentally leaked onto the 'Net.  You get no benefits for any of this.  That doesn't sound very fair, to me.

[AlanC9]

Seifz wrote...
But did you?  That's an absurd amount of information!  And it's not really non-personal since they're just combining it with the personal information we've already given them.  Do you really like the idea of a company like EA having all this information about you?  What programs you use, what websites you visit, how you use your computer?

Why is everyone okay with this?

You're assuming that they're combining the non-personal and the personal information in a way that effectively erases the distinction. I.e., adding the non-personal information to the personal information, rather than taking demographic information from the personal data and combining that with the non-personal information.

This means that the Privacy Policy is a lie, since it plainly distinguishes between the two categories of information in terms of how they are collected and used. Maybe so, but if they're lying to us it doesn't really matter what the policy says, does it? And if they are lying, they might as well tell bigger lies to lull you into a false sense of security.

As for what the policy says; sure, I read it.  Not bothered. A lot of that stuff I positively want them to know; such as the choices I make when playing the games, how many times I play them, for how long, and over what period.

[AlanC9]

Seifz wrote...
Anyway, it's not about EA becoming interested in you personally.  It's about EA collecting that information, selling it to other companies (making money off of you just so you can play the game that you already paid them for), and then those companies using that information for directed advertising and making even more money off of you.  Additionally, the more companies with your information, the greater the chance it'll be accidentally leaked onto the 'Net.  You get no benefits for any of this.  That doesn't sound very fair, to me.

And the information that I play DA getting leaked will be a problem.... how?

As for advertisements, I'd rather seen banner ads that I'm interested in than ads for stuff I'm not interested in. Replacing a car ad with a Skyrim ad is a good thing.

[soteria]

In a philosophical sense I can understand not wanting my information "out there," but in terms of companies making advertising revenue off me, I don't really get the problem.

[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

As long as I can continue Practicing Blood-Magic, I will be a happy customer, assuming that I am not deceived by Evil.....

[kjdhgfiliuhwe]

Maconbar wrote...

tallon1982 wrote...

Forgive me if this has been addressed already my question is will there be a midnight release for those of us that purchased a digital copy from the EA store or any other store that allows us to download the game?

I believe that EA will allow early downloading. Not sure how early however.

Please, no "I believe" statements in this thread.

After spending two weeks in a back and forth with EA support, I can only say this: No one at EA has a clue whether or not we will be able to download the game early. The way the DRM is set up, it would certainly make sense that it could be downloaded early, but again. After two weeks of back and forth with EA support, no one there has a clue as to whether or not we can download it early.

[Derax]

Will there actually be a 3d option in dragon age 2 just like in the first one? 

Please don't hate -> I only want this question to be answered ... 

[Leonick91]

Derax wrote...

Will there actually be a 3d option in dragon age 2 just like in the first one? 

Please don't hate -> I only want this question to be answered ... 

1. DAO had a 3d option?
2. What does this have to do with the DRM of DA2?