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[RUDAL]

Leonick91 wrote...

Derax wrote...

Will there actually be a 3d option in dragon age 2 just like in the first one? 

Please don't hate -> I only want this question to be answered ... 

1. DAO had a 3d option?

If you have GF 8800 or beter you have in your driver options a stereoscopic 3D for games. It requires those red-blue glassses and it works fine. Don't know about that 3D Vision nvidia set.
Same goes with the ATI graphics but you have to download a driver for that.

[Jarcander]

Alrighty. A disk check would be pretty damn silly nowadays anyway. Actually, it was always a bit silly. It takes about a minute to bypass.

[Seifz]

Jarcander wrote...

Alrighty. A disk check would be pretty damn silly nowadays anyway. Actually, it was always a bit silly. It takes about a minute to bypass.

This DRM will be bypassed within 24 hours, too.  But, we're not allowed to talk about that here.  

[Derax]

RUDAL wrote...

Leonick91 wrote...

Derax wrote...

Will there actually be a 3d option in dragon age 2 just like in the first one? 

Please don't hate -> I only want this question to be answered ... 

1. DAO had a 3d option?

If you have GF 8800 or beter you have in your driver options a stereoscopic 3D for games. It requires those red-blue glassses and it works fine. Don't know about that 3D Vision nvidia set.
Same goes with the ATI graphics but you have to download a driver for that.

Yeah acutally I meant nvdida 3d vision I did not want to name it as guys here are pretty aggresive and suspect people of advertising as they really hate this feature. Many (older) games have this enabled but i want to make sure because it adds a lot to immersion; sry for the wrong thread i had only read faq and da2 and did not know what drm means 

Where can i ask this question?

[Mage One]

Right, so I've officially given Bioware/EA the benefit of the doubt, as the shiny little DA:O UE (Purchased now to play and beat Awakenings before playing DA2) emblem under my avatar suggests. The last time I thought their silence was damning was when I thought the silence meant the DRM remained unchanged, and I was wrong. Granted, they didn't change everything I hoped they would, but they changed enough that I'm willing to deal with the result as a sort of compromise. Hopefully, then, the DRM interfering with other programs and transferability fears will meet with similar results. This, Bioware, is me putting my faith in you given the uncertainty your silence regarding these questions has created. This is the sort of thing I'm willing to do for companies/divisions I have good will for. I hope to not find the hard way that this was unfounded - that my worst-case scenarios were the truth - since that would represent the deliberate withholding of information a potential consumer should have access to when deciding on a purchase.

More significantly to me, though, it would also mean I won't be able to see you quite the same way anymore. You will loose what good will I have for you, and as I've suggested, my disposable income gets primarily directed towards companies who have my good will. This means, for example, I would not purchase whatever ridiculous super-special-N7-collector's edition there is planned for ME3, which I have already begun saving for. I would still buy ME3, but after it's release at a discount instead.

I would hate for that to happen. As a whole I enjoy your products and am glad to support you as a customer, but being treated in the manner my worst-case scenario would suggest after your long (and in that scenario inexcusable) silence over two easily answerable questions is precisely the sort of thing that would ruin my regard for you in spite of that because, despite assurances to the contrary, you would have proven to have (or at the very least, acted in a manner that suggests) little regard for me as a customer. As I've said, I'm presently banking on this not being the case. If I am wrong, I would appreciate being told so even now after it's too late as opposed to finding out the hard way.

[harvestboygoobus]

I don't know if this has been answered or not, but maybe Chris or Fernando can tell me. My wife and I both have different EA accounts and we both play DA--she usually on the consoles and myself usually on the PC. Now, with the consoles, if I want to make a DA:O game file on my own gamertag and EA account, there isn't a problem as the DLC is, for the most part, tied to our Xbox and, therefore, can be used on any gamertag.

My question, however, is about the PC. If she were to make a game on the PC under her own EA Account, would she have access to all the special DLC and such that I've gotten, or would the game assume that she isn't authorized to use it and refuse to let her access it?

[Seifz]

harvestboygoobus wrote...

I don't know if this has been answered or not, but maybe Chris or Fernando can tell me. My wife and I both have different EA accounts and we both play DA--she usually on the consoles and myself usually on the PC. Now, with the consoles, if I want to make a DA:O game file on my own gamertag and EA account, there isn't a problem as the DLC is, for the most part, tied to our Xbox and, therefore, can be used on any gamertag.

My question, however, is about the PC. If she were to make a game on the PC under her own EA Account, would she have access to all the special DLC and such that I've gotten, or would the game assume that she isn't authorized to use it and refuse to let her access it?

All DLC is tied to a single EA account on the PC.  It's a poor policy, but that's how it is.

[Drake Sigar]

I still don’t like all this online activation crap and being forced to subscribe to some service or website. It’s just one more thing I have to overcome when I try to replay the game in five years time. I do own a few games which take this approach, but they were all bought without prior knowledge of the DRM because sometimes it’s surprisingly difficult to find solid answers on DRM issues. Some online shops flat out don’t tell you of the activation requirements. Hell, I’m only getting Dragon Age 2 because it’s a present from my family.

We know this isn’t about those pirate scum, there isn’t any protection in the land they can’t crack before teatime. This is about ensuring we buy a brand new copy of the game.

Modifié par Drake Sigar, 03 mars 2011 - 01:09 .

[Sherana]

We know this isn’t about those pirate scum, there isn’t any protection in the land they can’t crack before teatime. This is about ensuring we buy a brand new copy of the game.

How horrible of them to try and put in some way of getting people that play their games to actually be customers.

Remember: If you buy it used, you are a customer of the reseller, *not* of the people that made the game.

[Derax]

Sherana wrote...

We know this isn’t about those pirate scum, there isn’t any protection in the land they can’t crack before teatime. This is about ensuring we buy a brand new copy of the game.

How horrible of them to try and put in some way of getting people that play their games to actually be customers.

Remember: If you buy it used, you are a customer of the reseller, *not* of the people that made the game.

I am glad that (official) European laws differ 

[Sherana]

Derax wrote...

Sherana wrote...

We know this isn’t about those pirate scum, there isn’t any protection in the land they can’t crack before teatime. This is about ensuring we buy a brand new copy of the game.

How horrible of them to try and put in some way of getting people that play their games to actually be customers.

Remember: If you buy it used, you are a customer of the reseller, *not* of the people that made the game.

I am glad that (official) European laws differ 

In what way?  Are resellers required to pay a percentage of their price to the company that makes the game?

[Drake Sigar]

Sherana wrote...

We know this isn’t about those pirate scum, there isn’t any protection in the land they can’t crack before teatime. This is about ensuring we buy a brand new copy of the game.

How horrible of them to try and put in some way of getting people that play their games to actually be customers.

Remember: If you buy it used, you are a customer of the reseller, *not* of the people that made the game.

Your sarcasm is not needed. I despise second-hand game stores which rake in fortunes for products they had no hand in creating. In my eyes these stores and their business practices rank amongst the greediest and most monopolistic in the gaming industry, which is quite a feat considering the disreputable trash lurking out there. I’m simply pointing out that developers need to stop citing piracy as the primary reason for their DRM when it clearly isn’t, and that I don’t like being shafted with intrusive software or forced subscriptions just because someone else is either too poor or too cheap to buy a game new.

Modifié par Drake Sigar, 03 mars 2011 - 03:11 .

[Spinifer]

Drake Sigar wrote...

I still don’t like all this online activation crap and being forced to subscribe to some service or website. It’s just one more thing I have to overcome when I try to replay the game in five years time....

Well let's hope that sunset patch is reality and not something invented or we could get something like this:
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[Mage One]

Drake Sigar wrote...

Sherana wrote...

How horrible of them to try and put in some way of getting people that play their games to actually be customers.

Remember: If you buy it used, you are a customer of the reseller, *not* of the people that made the game.

Your sarcasm is not needed. I despise second-hand game stores which rake in fortunes for products they had no hand in creating. In my eyes these stores and their business practices rank amongst the greediest and most monopolistic in the gaming industry, which is quite a feat considering the disreputable trash lurking out there. I’m simply pointing out that developers need to stop citing piracy as the primary reason for their DRM when it clearly isn’t, and that I don’t like being shafted with intrusive software or forced subscriptions just because someone else is either too poor or too cheap to buy a game new.

Used purchasers are stil customers of the company's product, whether they see any profits or no.  This is significant in a number of ways.  First, though, I feel compelled to say that, if the right of first sale didn't kill the book, movie, music, or car industries (as three out of four of them, as far as I am aware, claimed it would/is) somehow I don't think it'll suddenly kill the game industry, which has survived for more than thirty years, second-hand sales and all.  You can claim it leeches profits, but claims that it does to significant and harmful effect are dubious so long as the game in question is good.  If it's not, that's the developer's fault, not the consumer's.

Many people who buy used cannot afford new, and every used sale is a chance at attracting new customers who will later buy new when they can afford it.  If used was not an option, I probably would have never played Baldur's Gate or KoTOR, the games that respectively made me first a fan of Bioware and were critical to selling me on their continued ability through to Mass Effect and Dragon Age.  (I liked NWN and JE well enough, but I mostly just thought they were pretty okay with a handful of redeeming features)  Also, there are some games you just can't find used easily or at a reasonable price, because the percentage of owners willing to sell their copy relative to the number of people looking to buy it used is so small.  If nothing else, this indicates to me the best way to prevent the used game market from hurting ongoing sales is to make a good game, a game that people won't unload en masse into the used market but will instead leave them hungry for more.  Remember, throttling used game sales hurts not only outlets like gamestop, but also the individual going on Ebay or Amazon to sell a game they no longer want (as is their right) or gifting it to a curious friend after they've upgraded to the Ultimate Edition.

[Mihai Hornet]

Online activation is too much for my taste. They should have stayed with disk check only, like in DAO and ME2. In fact I trusted EA to do so enough to preorder DA2 on Amazon. Man, was I wrong.  Needless to say I have already canceled my order. I will buy DA2 ONLY when EA will remove the DRM in a future patch, if they will ever do it.

I support developers that trust and respect their customers and don't tax legit gamers with annoying DRM. I don't give an example of such developer because I'm sure EA already knows which  game will be released soon, absolutely DRM free.

Modifié par Mihai Hornet, 03 mars 2011 - 09:22 .

[MartinPham]

Glaucon wrote...

I think it perfectly fair for me to finalise my position on Dragon age 2's DRM implementation.  Naturally the following is my opinion and nothing more:

As  a law abiding gamer of over 25 years I cannot help but feel that I have suffered an injustice.  As this post is read there are individuals playing Dragon Age 2.  As a fellow gamer the moderators have my sympathies.  I trust that EA --as a responsible publisher-- will discover lessons from this.  I will continue to play my role (I'm an RPGer).  I invite EA to play their's.

I'm really looking forward to playing the game and hope that everyone enjoys it.  For myself, now seems like a good time to take a break from the forum; so as not to be spoilt or disrupted.  Enjoy the game....

+1

Curious: Would you consider DA2 (base game only) if EA did sunset this DRM in 6-12 months from now?

[TwistedComplex]

Mihai Hornet wrote...

Online activation is too much for my taste. They should have stayed with disk check only, like in DAO and ME2. In fact I trusted EA to do so enough to preorder DA2 on Amazon. Man, was I wrong.  Needless to say I have already canceled my order. I will buy DA2 ONLY when EA will remove the DRM in a future patch, if they will ever do it.

I support developers that trust and respect their customers and don't tax legit gamers with annoying DRM. I don't give an example of such developer because I'm sure EA already knows which  game will be released soon, absolutely DRM free.

Why is it too much?

You're on the internet right now

[Silver]

the DRM for physical copies sounds a lot like the one for Dragon Age Origins, I like that

Modifié par silverhammer08, 04 mars 2011 - 03:58 .

[Seifz]

No, it's nothing like the DA:O scheme.
- DA:O never required an Internet connection or an EA account for anything unless you purchased DLC.
- Further, you could play DA:O in offline mode and never send any data whatsoever to EA/BioWare without disabling your Internet connection before launching the game.
- The DA:O scheme had no reliance on EA's servers and didn't require any sunset "plans".
- There was nothing in the DA:O scheme that would prevent me from legally reselling my copy of the game.

On the downside, it required a disc check. I'd take a disc check over this horrible DA2 scheme any day.

[blubbolo]

it's time to think about some console drm. :<

[Jackalofdeath]

yeah i love when news reports rag on PC gaming like no other, and people like jim sterling make a huge rant about how PC gaming sucks and blah blah blah, but then you see every single game ever released leaked on consoles well before release date, every single time. And there isnt one thing the developers or news sites ever do about it.

[Khayness]

This FAQ needs a updatin', Asia/Pacific region, Western/Eastern Europe, Central and South America are now countries!