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[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

Dragon Age 2 Release Control (non-Steam versions)

Does not use securom. (False)

It does not install anything to the PC. (False)

Sole purpose is to check with a server to validate whether the game release date has passed or not. (False)

It completely removes itself after the game release date has passed. (False)

You will not be able to play until that date has passed.

Dates & times are set to the retail street date per country. (Set according to the Divine Plan)

I'm Worried.

[Antmarkhemingway]

This just all sounds to me like a very odd way to install a game... Why??? What happened to inserting a disc, installing, then playing?

[Antmarkhemingway]

Antmarkhemingway wrote...

This just all sounds to me like a very odd way to install a game... Why??? What happened to inserting a disc, installing, then playing?

To answer my own question, piracy! I have never illegally downloaded a thing in my life, i buy everything I want. We are paying the price because of these people!

[Lux]

Blood-Lord Thanatos wrote...

Does not use securom. (False)

Well, the link indicated on the date check window was a pretty good hint that some measure of SecuROM was being used.

A date check is appropriate, considering some retailers breaking street date. THIS, however, didn't seem to have happened on the SecuROM front:

It completely removes itself after the game release date has passed.

I think that BW, at the moment, has a serious problem between profitability and customer satisfaction.

[Lawliet89]

I am really disappointed. Looks like 2010 was a good year for Bioware with DA:O and ME2 (along with their awesome DRM).

Well... if BF3 does the same shenanigan with the DRM again this year, EA will be losing all my faith.

[Thandal N'Lyman]

Blood-Lord Thanatos wrote...

Dragon Age 2 Release Control (non-Steam versions)

Does not use securom. (False)

It does not install anything to the PC. (False)

Sole purpose is to check with a server to validate whether the game release date has passed or not. (False)

It completely removes itself after the game release date has passed. (False)

You will not be able to play until that date has passed.

Dates & times are set to the retail street date per country. (Set according to the Divine Plan)

I'm Worried.

You make assertions that BioWare's information is "false", but you provide nothing to back that up. 
I can say "I'm a Martian", but it doesn't make it true...

Modifié par Thandal NLyman, 11 mars 2011 - 03:09 .

[Travie]

Thandal NLyman wrote...

Blood-Lord Thanatos wrote...

Dragon Age 2 Release Control (non-Steam versions)

Does not use securom. (False)

It does not install anything to the PC. (False)

Sole purpose is to check with a server to validate whether the game release date has passed or not. (False)

It completely removes itself after the game release date has passed. (False)

You will not be able to play until that date has passed.

Dates & times are set to the retail street date per country. (Set according to the Divine Plan)

I'm Worried.

You make assertions that BioWare's information is "false", but you provide nothing to back that up. 
I can say "I'm a Martian", but it doesn't make it true...

vividgamer.com/2011/03/10/ea-fails-to-disclose-securom-in-dragon-age-ii/

[QuentaSilmarillion]

YA FOR MALWARE!

[GloranFhaidha]

Rather regret buying the game now. I've Always tried to support Bioware too.
Why Bioware?

[Travie]

Now I have to remove this gunk from my computer... again. Such a pain in the ass.

[QuentaSilmarillion]

I went to EA's support chat, they are refunding my money and the gave me 20 dollar gift code, I encourage you all to do the same.

[deuce985]

You people need to understand this likely isn't Bioware's fault, it is EA. They told Bioware this is the DRM they're using and this is probably the information they gave them. It isn't up the developer what DRM to put in the game...it is the publisher.

[kr33g0r]

deuce985 wrote...

You people need to understand this likely isn't Bioware's fault, it is EA. They told Bioware this is the DRM they're using and this is probably the information they gave them. It isn't up the developer what DRM to put in the game...it is the publisher.

I agree but if that is the case than the dude from Bioware shouldn't have stated that SecuRom would not be included. If he had have kept his mouth shut it would be all on EA's head.

[Ethics]

QuentaSilmarillion wrote...

I went to EA's support chat, they are refunding my money and the gave me 20 dollar gift code, I encourage you all to do the same.

Lucky you.

The guy I spoke to said there was nothing he could do.

[Lux]

kr33g0r wrote...
I agree but if that is the case than the dude from Bioware shouldn't have stated that SecuRom would not be included. If he had have kept his mouth shut it would be all on EA's head.

Don't shoot the messenger.

EA is pulling this stunt on other games as well.

[kr33g0r]

Merkar wrote...

kr33g0r wrote...
I agree but if that is the case than the dude from Bioware shouldn't have stated that SecuRom would not be included. If he had have kept his mouth shut it would be all on EA's head.

Don't shoot the messenger.

EA is pulling this stunt on other games as well.

I am sure they have done it in the past as well. Silly Bioware for thinking they were different

[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

Thandal NLyman wrote...

Blood-Lord Thanatos wrote...

Dragon Age 2 Release Control (non-Steam versions)

Does not use securom. (False)

It does not install anything to the PC. (False)

Sole purpose is to check with a server to validate whether the game release date has passed or not. (False)

It completely removes itself after the game release date has passed. (False)

You will not be able to play until that date has passed.

Dates & times are set to the retail street date per country. (Set according to the Divine Plan)

I'm Worried.

You make assertions that BioWare's information is "false", but you provide nothing to back that up. 
I can say "I'm a Martian", but it doesn't make it true...

Check Martin Pham's Post on the previous page. He supplied a link to the Reclaim your Game website which tests DRM schema.

[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

So Far I don't seem to be having any problems......YET

[sirpanator]

"An error occurred during the online release date check." How can I fix this? Disabling antivirus / firewall doesn't work.

Modifié par sirpanator, 11 mars 2011 - 06:32 .

[MartinPham]

You have to accept the connection via. your firewall in order for the SecuROM Release Date Check to work. Otherwise if you're living in an EU country then you'd have to wait (not sure which date) until their servers can activate the game.

[sirpanator]

MartinPham wrote...

You have to accept the connection via. your firewall in order for the SecuROM Release Date Check to work. Otherwise if you're living in an EU country then you'd have to wait (not sure which date) until their servers can activate the game.

Yeah,

"Eastern Europe  – 0000h March 11th"

wasn't that like 7 hours ago?

[uDoh]

Antmarkhemingway wrote...

Antmarkhemingway wrote...

This just all sounds to me like a very odd way to install a game... Why??? What happened to inserting a disc, installing, then playing?

To answer my own question, piracy! I have never illegally downloaded a thing in my life, i buy everything I want. We are paying the price because of these people!

A date release checker, one for Europe and one for America, has nothing to do with piracy, it's just EA flexing it's muscles.

[Antmarkhemingway]

deuce985 wrote...

You people need to understand this likely isn't Bioware's fault, it is EA. They told Bioware this is the DRM they're using and this is probably the information they gave them. It isn't up the developer what DRM to put in the game...it is the publisher.

This is true, and on the other hand I agree with others that Bioware should have informed customers.  Is SecuROM really a problem?  A remember the uproar when EA placed SecuROM on The Sims 2 - Bon voyage Expansion Pack, and it really messed with people's machine settings. I didn't have the problem myself, but i'm a bit concerned now... How does SecuROM affect us?

[Lux]

uDoh wrote...

A date release checker, one for Europe and one for America, has nothing to do with piracy, it's just EA flexing it's muscles.

We're talking about traditional release dates in different world regions, with different laws and ways to do business. Digital distribution made the gaming world a lot smaller. However, it's by established market rules in the analog world that release dates are arranged. EA merely conforms to this.

The date check came up because some retail stores have been selling earlier than the official release date, in order to boost sales. This has been causing havoc in distribution arrangements.

[Raygereio]

deuce985 wrote...
You people need to understand this likely isn't Bioware's fault, it is EA. They told Bioware this is the DRM they're using and this is probably the information they gave them. It isn't up the developer what DRM to put in the game...it is the publisher.

True. But it was BioWare that told us that there wasn't SecuROM in it. Which, given that it was obivous from the beginning the DRM was going to be the same as Dead Space 2's, was an untenable position to take in the first place.

But I do get that BioWare doesn't have much choice then telling us what they're told by EA. Which raises the following question; what incompetent school of PR did these people attend? I get that they're worried that it's going to be known before release that the game contains SecuROM - given the bad name it has. Let's skip past the stupidity of including it in the first place - that horse is dead. Why wouldn't they just go through the small effort of getting another releasedate-checker, instead of outright lying?

I will never understand corporate culture. It's thinking ways will forever be alien to me.

Antmarkhemingway wrote...
How does SecuROM affect us?

In this case it doesn't affect us much. Internet hysteria aside; while SecuROM is technically a rootkit, there's no evidence that does actually create an exploitable security hole in your computer. Nor does this version - to my knowledge - have the capabillity to mess up drivers and cause instabillity issues in explorer.exe.

The bigger issue is the fact that they misinformed and lied about it. Oh, and the fact that all it does is inconvenience paying customers and nothing else. That money for the SecuROM-licence from Sony was money well spend, wasn't it EA? I'm guessing they're counting on this to just blow over in a short while and for everyone to forget it. Sad thing is, they're right in counting on that.

Modifié par Raygereio, 11 mars 2011 - 10:09 .