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#101
Chris Priestly

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This is NOT the place to discuss the pros and cons of Steam. Take that discussion to the Steam forums. Thanks.



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I don't like it.

I don't want to resell da2, but i want the option. Hell I still have BG, BG TotSC, BG2, BG2 ToB, KotoR, ME, ME2, DA:O and DA:A. It's just that guys like me and probably 90% of the people here in the forum made bioware to the company it is today and now we get treated like third class customers.
Back in the days I loved Bioware, but now I just regard them as high as EA, which is just a step above Ubisoft.

Modifié par CaolIla, 24 février 2011 - 08:36 .


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CaolIla wrote...

I don't like it.

I don't want to resell da2, but i want the option. Hell I still have BG, BG TotSC, BG2, BG2 ToB, KotoR, ME, ME2, DA:O and DA:A. It's just that guys like me and probably 90% of the people here in the forum made bioware to the company it is today and now we get treated like third class customers.
Back in the days I loved Bioware, but now I just regard them as high as EA, which is just a step above Ubisoft.


No Jade Empire?

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Thank you, I much prefer this version of DRM! And yay for the non cd check!

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Aesieru wrote...

CaolIla wrote...

I don't like it.

I don't want to resell da2, but i want the option. Hell I still have BG, BG TotSC, BG2, BG2 ToB, KotoR, ME, ME2, DA:O and DA:A. It's just that guys like me and probably 90% of the people here in the forum made bioware to the company it is today and now we get treated like third class customers.
Back in the days I loved Bioware, but now I just regard them as high as EA, which is just a step above Ubisoft.


No Jade Empire?


tbh no... I'm ashamed of that btw ; )

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What happens if one of these 'background' checks fails for whatever reason? Or if the internet goes out while we are playing?

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Thanks for the update. This is a compromise I can live with.

Edit: Grammer & Spelling. God I'm dense today

Modifié par BigJas, 24 février 2011 - 08:52 .


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Thanks a million for removing subsequent logins, that was definitely going to be a source of frustration for many players. You guys are the best!

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CaolIla wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

CaolIla wrote...

I don't like it.

I don't want to resell da2, but i want the option. Hell I still have BG, BG TotSC, BG2, BG2 ToB, KotoR, ME, ME2, DA:O and DA:A. It's just that guys like me and probably 90% of the people here in the forum made bioware to the company it is today and now we get treated like third class customers.
Back in the days I loved Bioware, but now I just regard them as high as EA, which is just a step above Ubisoft.


No Jade Empire?


tbh no... I'm ashamed of that btw ; )


I'd say you should go for it, definitely worth it.

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That DRM is awesome.

Thanks for going to bat to make activation completely painless.


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Jonp382 wrote...

What happens if one of these 'background' checks fails for whatever reason? Or if the internet goes out while we are playing?


Worst case scenario is that you lose any in-game progress not saved and will have to reload:  As long as you have made the initial one time check (PC) you should be free to play off line.  You can prevent the repeat checks from occurring by disabling your network connections during before game play -- offline game mode if you like.  That's how understand it.

Modifié par Glaucon, 24 février 2011 - 09:01 .


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xThunderblazex wrote...

Morroian wrote...

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To think that internet connection of any kind to play or install a single player game is ok ,especially constant online check is insane in my eyes.  

So those who think Steam is OK are insane.


Steam is terribad. Anyone who supports Steam/Steamworks is contributing to ruining PC gaming.


Not sure if i misinterpret... Still, please explain to me why Bioware/EA drm is godlike even their doing exactly the same crap with DA2 like steam drms with its one time binding of serial keys?

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Glaucon wrote...

Jonp382 wrote...

What happens if one of these 'background' checks fails for whatever reason? Or if the internet goes out while we are playing?


Worst case scenario is that you lose any in-game progress not saved and will have to reload:


Is that how DA:O worked? I may opt to just turn off my internet while playing DA2 if that's how it works.

Modifié par Jonp382, 24 février 2011 - 09:05 .


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How many MB will be each save on the Xbox 360 version? It was 17 for the first one.

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Jonp382 wrote...

Glaucon wrote...

Jonp382 wrote...

What happens if one of these 'background' checks fails for whatever reason? Or if the internet goes out while we are playing?


Worst case scenario is that you lose any in-game progress not saved and will have to reload:[/quoet]

Is that how DA:O worked? I may opt to just turn off my internet while playing DA2 if that's how it works.



I don't know how it worked in DA: O.  I have never had any problems with DRM so it's largely something that passes me by unnoticed (which is good and bad).  It does look as though the only method that meets our attitude to DRM is to disable the network connections.  There is a better implementation of this 'general attitude' to be had.  And I'm sure we as consumers will settle on something that is reasonable.  It's nearly there IMO.

Modifié par Glaucon, 24 février 2011 - 09:06 .


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So, for the digital versions, pretty much the same as ME2 or DAO, it sounds like. Acceptable enough for me.

Thanks for keeping us updated.

Modifié par Kloreep, 24 février 2011 - 09:10 .


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Chris - If there is a midnight sale of DA2 will the game allow us to authenticate it after midnight on the release date or will we be forced to install it but not be able to play it until 9am 3/8. (Preference is 12:00am 3/8)

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Chris Priestly wrote...
Dragon Age 2 Release Control (non-Steam versions)

  • Does not use securom.
  • It does not install anything to the PC.
  • Sole purpose is to check with a server to validate whether the game release date has passed or not.
  • It completely removes itself after the game release date has passed.
  • You will not be able to play until that date has passed.
  • Dates & times are set to the retail street date per country.


So, even if a store here ships it early on the 10th, we'd get locked out of playing for an entire day while people in america are already able to play?

That's not fair. Why not set the same unlock date for all countries?

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Well, well...it's good to see that a 1-time log on is necessary, and after that we can play even offline. Between this, and discovering how to set the graphics in high in the demo, has convinced me to give the game a chance, so I have my preorder of DA 2 ready.

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Nighteye2 wrote...

That's not fair. Why not set the same unlock date for all countries?

Because then Brick & Mortar retailers in Europe wouldn't carry the game.

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Soul Juggalo wrote...

Not sure if i misinterpret... Still, please explain to me why Bioware/EA drm is godlike even their doing exactly the same crap with DA2 like steam drms with its one time binding of serial keys?

The major difference is that you're not wed to Steam's other "features".

Yes, the DRM works the same, but it doesn't carry the other extra baggage.  This DA2 DRM is barely invasive at all.

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Will we be able to integrate our physical copies into Steam? By this I mean registering with CD keys with our Steam accounts.

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Commander_Ike wrote...

Will we be able to integrate our physical copies into Steam? By this I mean registering with CD keys with our Steam accounts.


If it works like DA:O, you'll be able to register it to the EADM but not Steam.

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Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Nighteye2 wrote...

That's not fair. Why not set the same unlock date for all countries?

Because then Brick & Mortar retailers in Europe wouldn't carry the game.


If that's the reason, why not set the 11th as the worldwide unlock date?

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Fernando Melo wrote...
Similar to Steam however, if you have an active internet connection then when the game starts up it'll do a check in the background.  The difference is that you can be offline/no internet after the first time and it'll simply default to let you play (essentially an auto-offline mode, no request needed from your part).

I don't like this "we'll check if you're online and phone home" thing.  I'd like to be able to tell the game when it can phone home.

I deal with Steam DRM only because I get great deals on games.  I don't think I've spent over $10 for a game on Steam so the trade off is ok with me.  If I'm buying a retail game, I'm not a fan of it phoning home unless it has my explicit permission. :unsure: