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[Nightwriter]

Well, now that I've successfully engaged you in intellectual discussion...

Consider, my friend, that you have to be totally batsh*t insane to fight the Reapers, and totally batsh*t insane to steal an Alliance frigate, and totally batsh*t insane to fly through the Omega 4 relay.

Now, I must point out that your plan entails the destruction of people who are totally batsh*t insane, which will of course totally cripple you, because then who will come to save your sane unmedicated asses? No one. Wake up, mon frere! During war your most precious resource is crazy people! And to ignore this you must surely be insane, and therefore a victim of your own anti-mania regime. Tragic.

[Tempest]

Nightwriter wrote...

Well, now that I've successfully engaged you in intellectual discussion...

Consider, my friend, that you have to be totally batsh*t insane to fight the Reapers, and totally batsh*t insane to steal an Alliance frigate, and totally batsh*t insane to fly through the Omega 4 relay.

Now, I must point out that your plan entails the destruction of people who are totally batsh*t insane, which will of course totally cripple you, because then who will come to save your sane unmedicated asses? No one. Wake up, mon frere! During war your most precious resource is crazy people! And to ignore this you must surely be insane, and therefore a victim of your own anti-mania regime. Tragic.

Now, now.  Before jumping the gun, you "assume" that I would sacrifice the planet early in the game.  Now I am "assuming" that they would need to be sacrificed for other priorities, from which ANY priority would be higher on my list than Earth.  Me going to the restroom because of food poisoning would take higher priority than saving Earth.  Now I had to use that to signify the importance of me wanting to save the Earth if anything else was in trouble, from which chances are...there will be.

[RunicDragons]

masterkajo wrote...

I hope there is a choice to make to either save earth and have huge losses (with the possibility to fail in the end) or sacrifice earth and fight elsewhere. Would be a nice and though choice I am willing to make.

I agree, i want to have:

Save Earth = Shepard and his crew makes an ultimate Sacrifice, dying heroically
Sacrifice Earth = Shepard and his crew survives but Earth would be lost with all human population.

[Some Dude]

Raanz wrote...

Ah, the internet and gaming forums. Quite the experiment.

Indeed

[Null_]

If Earth goes down humanity is pretty much...Drell'ed... We would become minor species at best. Biggest colony is Terra Nova and thats ONLY 4,4milion.Earth got bilions

Modifié par Null_, 25 février 2011 - 01:55 .

[Vena_86]

Ofcourse I would. It is our homeworld. I just hope it won't become the center of the universe in ME3s story.

[jbblue05]

Why wouldn't you save Earth?

Losing 99.99% of your population is not good at all just look at the Quarians and Drell

Quarians are the Geth's b***h
Drell are the Hanar's b***h

Humanity will fade away if their homeworld is loss.

If abandoning Earth is a Paragon option I bet Paragons will pick it too 

[Greybox_Inception]

jbblue05 wrote...

Why wouldn't you save Earth?

Losing 99.99% of your population is not good at all just look at the Quarians and Drell

Quarians are the Geth's b***h
Drell are the Hanar's b***h

Humanity will fade away if their homeworld is loss.

If abandoning Earth is a Paragon option I bet Paragons will pick it too 

thank you. so of course we want to save earth.

[Pwener2313]

Im an Earthborn and so is my Shepard. We'll sacrifice anything.

[Tempest]

Greybox_Inception wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

Why wouldn't you save Earth?

Losing 99.99% of your population is not good at all just look at the Quarians and Drell

Quarians are the Geth's b***h
Drell are the Hanar's b***h

Humanity will fade away if their homeworld is loss.

If abandoning Earth is a Paragon option I bet Paragons will pick it too 

thank you. so of course we want to save earth.

Now, i'm not going to say that your opinion is wrong because it is not.  All I am going to do right now is to put in information on why it isn't the same, nothing more.

Now, putting the fate of Quarians (lack of good adapting bodies) and Drell (Lack of good adapting bodies as well) aside, it is very difficult to say humans would die out the same way.  We have women today competing with each other on who can have the most children at one time....so no I don't worry about our possible future population.  I can give better details on why, but not only would it cause unnecessary de-railing of the subject, I also DO garauntee a good portion of people would be offended.  So lets just end it with, people are horndogs, there.

Modifié par Tempest, 25 février 2011 - 04:09 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

I'll abandon Earth if need be, and from the ashes I will establish a new empire.

[Pwener2313]

ReconTeam wrote...

I'll abandon Earth if need be, and from the ashes I will establish a new empire.

Yeah, sure, wathever crazy person.....

[Inquisitor Recon]

Pwener2313 wrote...

It sure beats risking everything in some desperate assault just to keep earth. Better to fall back and regroup even if it means losing earth.

[Some Dude]

Tempest wrote...

Greybox_Inception wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

Why wouldn't you save Earth?

Losing 99.99% of your population is not good at all just look at the Quarians and Drell

Quarians are the Geth's b***h
Drell are the Hanar's b***h

Humanity will fade away if their homeworld is loss.

If abandoning Earth is a Paragon option I bet Paragons will pick it too 

thank you. so of course we want to save earth.

Now, i'm not going to say that your opinion is wrong because it is not.  All I am going to do right now is to put in information on why it isn't the same, nothing more.

Now, putting the fate of Quarians (lack of good adapting bodies) and Drell (Lack of good adapting bodies as well) aside, it is very difficult to say humans would die out the same way.  We have women today competing with each other on who can have the most children at one time....so no I don't worry about our possible future population.  I can give better details on why, but not only would it cause unnecessary de-railing of the subject, I also DO garauntee a good portion of people would be offended.  So lets just end it with, people are horndogs, there.

I see the logic in that, BUT, in the short term humanity would be crippled for at least several hundred years (probably more), also alot of the avaliable worlds to colonize are hotly contested as it is, I think if the batarians saw the destruction of Earth's population, they would launch an offensive in the Traverse and would take several important colony worlds in the region because in order to get to Earth the Reapers would have to go through Arcturus anyway, meaning that a good chunk of the Alliance fleet would be destroyed before the big showdown with the Reapers, which would only hurt them more.

[Tempest]

Some Dude wrote...

Tempest wrote...

Greybox_Inception wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

Why wouldn't you save Earth?

Losing 99.99% of your population is not good at all just look at the Quarians and Drell

Quarians are the Geth's b***h
Drell are the Hanar's b***h

Humanity will fade away if their homeworld is loss.

If abandoning Earth is a Paragon option I bet Paragons will pick it too 

thank you. so of course we want to save earth.

Now, i'm not going to say that your opinion is wrong because it is not.  All I am going to do right now is to put in information on why it isn't the same, nothing more.

Now, putting the fate of Quarians (lack of good adapting bodies) and Drell (Lack of good adapting bodies as well) aside, it is very difficult to say humans would die out the same way.  We have women today competing with each other on who can have the most children at one time....so no I don't worry about our possible future population.  I can give better details on why, but not only would it cause unnecessary de-railing of the subject, I also DO garauntee a good portion of people would be offended.  So lets just end it with, people are horndogs, there.

I see the logic in that, BUT, in the short term humanity would be crippled for at least several hundred years (probably more), also alot of the avaliable worlds to colonize are hotly contested as it is, I think if the batarians saw the destruction of Earth's population, they would launch an offensive in the Traverse and would take several important colony worlds in the region because in order to get to Earth the Reapers would have to go through Arcturus anyway, meaning that a good chunk of the Alliance fleet would be destroyed before the big showdown with the Reapers, which would only hurt them more.

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Now Null has stated 4.4 million, and that is at just one colony and not the many that we have out there.  Now according to the chart, the human population can go from 1 billion to 9 billion in roughly 200 year period.  But that is counting how bad medicine was during that time.  Now I am theorizing that there is at least 1 billion (okay at a minimum of 800 million) in a foreign land/territory/location.  Now if medicine is good and chances are we would have a far better birth success rate in the future than now i'd say to get 9 billion humans to exist again would take 100 years, maybe 2.  you are looking at roughtly 3-4 generations...that is not as long as we assume.  There are were people alive about 5 years ago who lived during the "roaring" 20's.  Again, we are versatile and I am giving humans alot of credit on that.  We will be up again in no time.  Plus you assume that earth will be the only place attacked, heck chances are other homeworlds will be as well.  No enough reason to want to save Earth.

Modifié par Tempest, 25 février 2011 - 04:48 .

[Greybox_Inception]

Some Dude wrote...

Tempest wrote...

Greybox_Inception wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

Why wouldn't you save Earth?

Losing 99.99% of your population is not good at all just look at the Quarians and Drell

Quarians are the Geth's b***h
Drell are the Hanar's b***h

Humanity will fade away if their homeworld is loss.

If abandoning Earth is a Paragon option I bet Paragons will pick it too 

thank you. so of course we want to save earth.

Now, i'm not going to say that your opinion is wrong because it is not.  All I am going to do right now is to put in information on why it isn't the same, nothing more.

Now, putting the fate of Quarians (lack of good adapting bodies) and Drell (Lack of good adapting bodies as well) aside, it is very difficult to say humans would die out the same way.  We have women today competing with each other on who can have the most children at one time....so no I don't worry about our possible future population.  I can give better details on why, but not only would it cause unnecessary de-railing of the subject, I also DO garauntee a good portion of people would be offended.  So lets just end it with, people are horndogs, there.

I see the logic in that, BUT, in the short term humanity would be crippled for at least several hundred years (probably more), also alot of the avaliable worlds to colonize are hotly contested as it is, I think if the batarians saw the destruction of Earth's population, they would launch an offensive in the Traverse and would take several important colony worlds in the region because in order to get to Earth the Reapers would have to go through Arcturus anyway, meaning that a good chunk of the Alliance fleet would be destroyed before the big showdown with the Reapers, which would only hurt them more.

if 7 million people can die in week 1 of some war, how long would it take for billions to die (and that's without nuclear weapons going off, yet is pretty much inevitable)?

Modifié par Greybox_Inception, 25 février 2011 - 04:47 .

[Greybox_Inception]

Tempest wrote...

Greybox_Inception wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

Why wouldn't you save Earth?

Losing 99.99% of your population is not good at all just look at the Quarians and Drell

Quarians are the Geth's b***h
Drell are the Hanar's b***h

Humanity will fade away if their homeworld is loss.

If abandoning Earth is a Paragon option I bet Paragons will pick it too 

thank you. so of course we want to save earth.

Now, i'm not going to say that your opinion is wrong because it is not.  All I am going to do right now is to put in information on why it isn't the same, nothing more.

Now, putting the fate of Quarians (lack of good adapting bodies) and Drell (Lack of good adapting bodies as well) aside, it is very difficult to say humans would die out the same way.  We have women today competing with each other on who can have the most children at one time....so no I don't worry about our possible future population.  I can give better details on why, but not only would it cause unnecessary de-railing of the subject, I also DO garauntee a good portion of people would be offended.  So lets just end it with, people are horndogs, there.

 so if wa'qui-ka can have 50 babies by rayray, does that mean those 50 babies can maintain the rest of the reduced population of the human race, or are they just 50 people of 11 billion?

[shnizzler93]

I am human. They are human. Simple answer. Yes.

[Hanar Shakespeare]

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RunicDragons wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

So basically you are saying, "most people are jerks, so I'd prefer humanity goes extinct"?

You sound like you'd rather join the reapers as long as they'd agree to spare you and your family. I don't think Mass Effect is that kind of game.

It's why Shepard is the hero and not us. Most of us are self-absorbed nitwits. If the Reapers actually came, we'd wet our pants and throw the whole world under the bus if it meant saving ourselves.

Plus, there could also be a major Renegade option to 'Not Save Earth', being selfish and that kind of stuff...

Renegade Shep is actually far more human-centric than Paragon Shep. Paragon Shep all about the galactic community and the Council; Renegade Shep is all rah rah Cerberus.  Paragon Shep would be the one to sacrifice the Earth, which is why Paragon Shep is ******. 

And Renegade Shephard would only save the United States and it's allies, but let the other countries and people burn. Renegade Shephard is more of the, "I'm an American. Hoorah! I live in America! Hoorah!" type characters.

and Paragon Shephard will save the Earth. Especially with that gigantic, motley fleet with her every step of the way.

[White_Buffalo94]

I doubt the decisions will be save Earth and Sacrifice the team and vice versa. The Earth's significance and importance is far greater than a dozen people, including Shepard.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Hanar Shakespeare wrote...
And Renegade Shephard would only save the United States and it's allies, but let the other countries and people burn. Renegade Shephard is more of the, "I'm an American. Hoorah! I live in America! Hoorah!" type characters.

At least we can own guns to kill husks with.
Oh snap.

[Pwener2313]

White_Buffalo94 wrote...

I doubt the decisions will be save Earth and Sacrifice the team and vice versa. The Earth's significance and importance is far greater than a dozen people, including except Shepard.

Fix'd

[Hanar Shakespeare]

ReconTeam wrote...

Hanar Shakespeare wrote...
And Renegade Shephard would only save the United States and it's allies, but let the other countries and people burn. Renegade Shephard is more of the, "I'm an American. Hoorah! I live in America! Hoorah!" type characters.

At least we can own guns to kill husks with.
Oh snap.

Biotic Throw. Snaps.

[Some Dude]

Tempest, I honestly don't believe there are 1 billion people outside of Earth (maybe I'm wrong) I think the highest human population I've seen on one planet is Beckenstein, and that's only 55 million (I think). Humanity is VERY early in its colonization effort, and most of its population is on Earth, as opposed to the Turians, Asari, and Salarians, who have had colonies for centuries. Also, in order for the human population to bounce back like that you would serious pro-natalist government policies and I doubt after the fall of Earth that a strong centralized human government could just pop-up and implement such a plan thoughout dozens of far-off colonies.

[Some Dude]

ReconTeam wrote...

Hanar Shakespeare wrote...
And Renegade Shephard would only save the United States and it's allies, but let the other countries and people burn. Renegade Shephard is more of the, "I'm an American. Hoorah! I live in America! Hoorah!" type characters.

At least we can own guns to kill husks with.
Oh snap.

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