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[Slayer299]

Greybox_Inception wrote...

Slayer299 wrote...

Aha!! Finally! The inevitable mention of the "evil" Tali! LOL! And I like the Salarians, definitely smart and sneaky they are

As for you assertions regarding the "evil Salarian dictators...." We have dismissed that claim...

they are evil. look at the genophage.

I'm sad to tell you, but my Sheps support the use of the Genophage to stop the Krogan Rebellions, but reserved judgement for any future use.

[Weskerr]

ReconTeam wrote...

Ignoring Greybox's rather drunken style of posting, I think he raises a point? What would stop the quarians from trying the same thing against another race?

War and rationality. Unlike the scenario presented by the OP'er where the Salarians would wipe out the Humans for being too dense in population, the genophage was implemented to stop a species from taking over the galaxy. The Krogans were trying to take over territoties owned by Council species, and if they weren't challenged, the Krogans would have continued to take over territories. If they hadn't used the genophage, either the Krogans would have taken over the galaxy or there would have been a more prolonged and bloody war between them and the council species.

The Salarians didn't use the genophage for asinine reasons.

Modifié par Weskerr, 25 février 2011 - 05:20 .

[Cootie]

Disingenuous assertions, anyone?

[Bogsnot1]

You mean like how you are a troll hiding behind an unregistered username?

[Pwener2313]

^Pwened!

[Gentleman Moogle]

I...



Wait, what?



Well, to be serious, there are a couple of reasons it wouldn't work if the Salarians tried it on a different species. First, there are no other species that breed as prolifically as Krogans (except maybe the Rachni), so there'd be no reason to use the genophage anywhere else.



But for me, the most important reason it wouldn't work is simple: Scientists. Salarians may have a great science arm, but so do the other races. There are so few Krogan scientists that there's no real danger of the genophage being cured by that race, but if it were released against -- say -- the Quarians, you can bet they'd have their best scientists looking for a cure as soon as they found out.



The Genophage only worked against the Krogan for so long because there are no Krogan scientists.

[myKneegrows]

you're right they should all be slaughtered.

[Joram Talid]

OP is either drunk or retarded.

[Bogsnot1]

Joram Talid wrote...

OP is either drunk or retarded.

What do you mean, or?

[Pwener2313]

You guys know this thread is a trolling attempt... right?

[Gentleman Moogle]

Yep. Not bad for a troll, though.

[Fancando]

Actually they are something worse than evil, they are cold logicians with few emotions and loose to non existent ethics whe it comes to science. Evil is an emotional state, Salarians just don't care! which is worse than being evil mind you.

[Pwener2313]

Moogle, you are joking, correct? This is by far the worst troll in the forums... although there was this guy making accounts like crazy around 2 months ago.......

[Gentleman Moogle]

By 'not bad', I mean he's reasonably coherent and posts things at least tangentially related to the forums he's on.



Could be worse, after all.

[Archontor]

The Fan wrote...

 Ah, another of Greybox_Inceptions mass effect alien species hate threads. Not again...

I hate myself for bringing this up but.... All You Humans Are Rascist!

[CroGamer002]

[Fancando]

Well, their unethical science practices do deserve comenting.

[Bogsnot1]

Mordin has ethics;

Never conduct experiments on species capable of high end algebra

[Fancando]

Bogsnot1 wrote...

Mordin has ethics;

Never conduct experiments on species capable of high end algebra

But he still made the Genopahge and his supevisors had no problem making it. Salarians aren't evil, they just see the end justifying the means as the right way to be scientists, and that leads to evil results some time.

[Fancando]

The Fan wrote...

 Ah, another of Greybox_Inceptions mass effect alien species hate threads. Not again...

I know a player like this who says that ME should be as hateful and dark a universe like his favorite game Warhammer 40k where every race is hell-bent in the genocide of every other race. He keeps saying that it should be like that and that all aliens are evil because "everybody" sees ME like Warhammer 40k RPG lite and that is why they can't be good!
Sorry for my part in encouraging trolling:(:(

[Guanxii]

Lystheni are the Evil ones.

I'm actively pro-Krogan but even I appreciate that it was the only way, it's just Krogan nature.... they still haven't learned from their past mistakes... that is what is killing them. Without the Genophage there would only be Krogan.

The Salarians thought they were forcing the hand of the Krogan to change/adapt their behavior because they thought the Krogan would naturally realise the futility of failing to address their societal problems by working within the confines of birthrates comparable with other species (accounting for infant mortality). Instead they refused.

Realising the futility of it the focus of their attention should have shifted towards societal integration and development and they would (and may still yet) cure the genophage on their own terms and have evolved societally by that point to the point that they would be reproducing responsibly in sustainable numbers and providing for their people, and in turn (may still) be peacefully integrated into galactic society and contribute to it productively, not destructively. 

The Salarians gave the Krogan the benefit of the doubt by giving them a chance when they could have neutered them all. It's a blessing in disguise that may allow the Krogan and other species to live peacefully, therefore it was the right thing to do.

Modifié par Guanxii, 25 février 2011 - 11:24 .

[Fancando]

Guanxii wrote...

Lystheni are the Evil ones.

I'm actively pro-Krogan but even I appreciate that it was the only way, it's just Krogan nature.... they still haven't learned from their past mistakes... that is what is killing them. Without the Genophage there would only be Krogan.

The Salarians thought they were forcing the hand of the Krogan to change/adapt their behavior because they thought the Krogan would naturally realise the futility of failing to address their societal problems by working within the confines of birthrates comparable with other species (accounting for infant mortality). Instead they refused.

Realising the futility of it the focus of their attention should have shifted towards societal integration and development and they would (and may still yet) cure the genophage on their own terms and have evolved societally by that point to the point that they would be reproducing responsibly in sustainable numbers and providing for their people, and in turn (may still) be peacefully integrated into galactic society and contribute to it productively, not destructively. 

The Salarians gave the Krogan the benefit of the doubt by giving them a chance when they could have neutered them all. It's a blessing in disguise that may allow the Krogan and other species to live peacefully, therefore it was the right thing to do.

And the most morally ambiguous course of action as well, that is why I love Mass Effect, there are so many ways to see something and they are all based on valid points.

[RaduM]

The Original Poster either has faaaar too much leisure time on his hands ( bored ) or he's purposefully trying to incite a reaction by posting this drivel ( troll ).



Par for the course for the forums though,sad as it may be.

[Rune-Chan]

Personally I think we should just be grateful Tali isn't a Salarian, if she were who knows what kind of havoc she'd create?

[Greybox_Inception]

Machines Are Us wrote...

Personally I think we should just be grateful Tali isn't a Salarian, if she were who knows what kind of havoc she'd create?

how do we know? she got salarian-like goat legs.