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She likes males too, so I hear :P

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SomeoneStoleMyName wrote...

why can't boys irl be this sweet?


Because those of us that are, never gets the girl cause you fall in love with the rebellious, stupid, shortsighted "cool guys" that started smoking when they were 12. And when you are 20 years old with 2 kids and a chainsmoker yourself, with a guy who never appreciate you and sleeps with other girls showing you no respect THEN you think "Hey... maybe i took a wrong turn" (no shi* genius). Then one day you seek out the nice guy that had a crush on you on school thinking "maybe he still loves me, maybe he still remembers me..." only to find an arrogant manipulative ****** at the door that dont even remember your face.

You also see 2 half naked girls in his sofa and you ask "Hey youre not that kinda guy?" and the former nice guy answer "No idea who you are baby, but when the love of my life ditched me in highschool that guy died, i found out i had to change to get the women"

Stereotypical story? Yes.
Sad but true? Yes.
Am i bitter much? Definatly :P

If a girl wonder why there is so much evil in the world, the answer to that question is YOU.

 - Regards, former Alistair that got toughened alot and went for morrigan instead when the Leliana girls didnt want him.

Edit: Typos


Wow, a genuine Nice Guy ™.

Modifié par Suaine, 15 novembre 2009 - 11:08 .


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Suaine wrote...

Wow, a genuine Nice Guy ™.


Hah, irony. A multiple page rant on how "Nice Guys" have a huge chip on their shoulders and need to get over themselves.

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Suaine wrote...

SomeoneStoleMyName wrote...


why can't boys irl be this sweet?


Because those of us that are, never gets the girl cause you fall in love with the rebellious, stupid, shortsighted "cool guys" that started smoking when they were 12. And when you are 20 years old with 2 kids and a chainsmoker yourself, with a guy who never appreciate you and sleeps with other girls showing you no respect THEN you think "Hey... maybe i took a wrong turn" (no shi* genius). Then one day you seek out the nice guy that had a crush on you on school thinking "maybe he still loves me, maybe he still remembers me..." only to find an arrogant manipulative ****** at the door that dont even remember your face.

You also see 2 half naked girls in his sofa and you ask "Hey youre not that kinda guy?" and the former nice guy answer "No idea who you are baby, but when the love of my life ditched me in highschool that guy died, i found out i had to change to get the women"

Stereotypical story? Yes.
Sad but true? Yes.
Am i bitter much? Definatly :P

If a girl wonder why there is so much evil in the world, the answer to that question is YOU.

 - Regards, former Alistair that got toughened alot and went for morrigan instead when the Leliana girls didnt want him.

Edit: Typos


Wow, a genuine Nice Guy ™.




Wow...  I don't think I've read anything this honest and relatable in a long, long time.  I felt as if I could have been writing half of those experiences from my own past ^.^
Thank you for posting :)

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mynameisdanza wrote...

Stronghold II wrote...

mynameisdanza wrote...

he is super dreamy isn't he? Image IPB why can't boys irl be this sweet?

 LOL, it's because girls in real life only respond to arsehats.

 There is not a woman alive that actually likes the nice guy.

I disagree.  I do, however, think that a lot of nice guys end up being shy guys, making it very difficult to be noticed.  I've only tried dating an **** once, and it just made me like the nice ones even more :)

You don't happen to live somewhere in the south of the netherlands, do you? :innocent:

Modifié par Nighteye2, 15 novembre 2009 - 11:25 .


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South of the Netherlands, but not in the southern Netherlands :P

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mynameisdanza wrote...
South of the Netherlands, but not in the southern Netherlands :P


But still close? If so, I might be the nice guy you are looking for... ;)

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I'm in the US, and married to my nice guy ^.^

You're lucky over there with all those sexy accents...

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There are no sexy accents in Europe.

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mynameisdanza wrote...
I'm in the US, and married to my nice guy ^.^
You're lucky over there with all those sexy accents...


:(

It's so hard to find women interested in nice guys...or at least, to have them notice me and not be already taken...

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Then you just need to put yourself out there more ;)



And agree to disagree Gen-An...

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Suaine wrote...

Wow, a genuine Nice Guy ™.




Interesting read.


But the real foolproof way to identify a Nice Guy is to watch how he treats a woman who turns him down romantically.

That would still put me in the nice-niceguy shoes to this day.

But tell me Susaine, when you are a genuinely nice-niceguy for years and years, how can a person that wants nothing more than intimacy and love - hope to NOT turn into the fake-niceguy if constantly rejected this way? That id like to know. Because i dont think even the nicest real-niceguys could endure that either in the long run.

Ive always respected and loved women, when they turned me down i accepted it . I wasnt bitter then and sex was not my nr.1 motive at all. But when years and years past i tried NOT being myself, i told girls what i thought they wanted to hear and i became manipulative and false. And that gave me onenightstands all the time. And i didnt do it mostly for sex, but just the intimacy of having a girl in my arms.

Its true what she writes that there isnt a definate fake/bad-niceguy and real ones, that there are spectrums. But how do we know were we truly are and who are to judge us? By the sound of it, people who CLAIM to be nice guys most often arent. And those who DONT KNOW THEMSELVES are the true ones. I feel i belonged to the first one myself and wont lie that ive turned to the other. But how can you avoid turning to the latter after such a long time without love?

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mynameisdanza wrote...
Then you just need to put yourself out there more ;)

And agree to disagree Gen-An...


But how to do that? I'm too nice to approach women irl - and just being approachable isn't really working either. At least Alistair has the advantage of adventuring together with all those hot female PCs...

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I am reminded of this quote, of which the source is anonymous:



Women have a low opinion of men because they only meet those who approach them, and these are the lowest kind of men.



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SomeoneStoleMyName wrote...

Suaine wrote...

Wow, a genuine Nice Guy ™.




Interesting read.


But the real foolproof way to identify a Nice Guy is to watch how he treats a woman who turns him down romantically.

That would still put me in the nice-niceguy shoes to this day.

But tell me Susaine, when you are a genuinely nice-niceguy for years and years, how can a person that wants nothing more than intimacy and love - hope to NOT turn into the fake-niceguy if constantly rejected this way? That id like to know. Because i dont think even the nicest real-niceguys could endure that either in the long run.

Ive always respected and loved women, when they turned me down i accepted it . I wasnt bitter then and sex was not my nr.1 motive at all. But when years and years past i tried NOT being myself, i told girls what i thought they wanted to hear and i became manipulative and false. And that gave me onenightstands all the time. And i didnt do it mostly for sex, but just the intimacy of having a girl in my arms.

Its true what she writes that there isnt a definate fake/bad-niceguy and real ones, that there are spectrums. But how do we know were we truly are and who are to judge us? By the sound of it, people who CLAIM to be nice guys most often arent. And those who DONT KNOW THEMSELVES are the true ones. I feel i belonged to the first one myself and wont lie that ive turned to the other. But how can you avoid turning to the latter after such a long time without love?




Maybe it can't be avoided.  But imo,  being a genuine Nice Guy ™. is still much better than 80% of the other men out there...

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Nighteye2 wrote...

I am reminded of this quote, of which the source is anonymous:


Women have a low opinion of men because they only meet those who approach them, and these are the lowest kind of men.


How very true that can be.  I don't really know what to tell you for where to look :P  I met my husband at a bar...  And interestingly enough, i approached him. Image IPB Do whatever interests you, that's where you'll find people you'll get along with best!  I met my ex-boyfriend while helping to build a house with Habitat for Humanity...  You never know where you'll meet someone exciting.

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Me and Alistair have a 'bromance'.

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lol

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I'm reminded of the George Sodini murder-suicide in Pittsburgh a few months back. Watching these comments about "Nice Guys" and such. Sodini felt he was a nice guy, and that women owed him everything. He thought that because he had a successful career, was physically fit and moderately attractive, that he deserved "hot ****es." His thinly veiled hatred of women drove them away, he was deep down a very angry and bitter misogynist. his dark and twisted ramblings via his blog were scary, but should be a real eye-opener for "Nice Guys" everywhere. Look how George Sodini's story ended. He went to a gym where he shot and killed multiple women, innocent women, because he felt that our gender owed him this blood for his loneliness and misdirected anger.



Women know when you have ulterior motives on your mind. If you can't get a girl, it's not because all women are the devil and only like the "bad boys." Take a look in the mirror and figure out what you're doing wrong. Is sex the only thing on your mind? We know when you look at us with bedroom eyes. We are the masters of subtlety, don't think for a moment that you have us fooled.



Also, imagine, if you will, what it's like for a woman in this world of ours. We have been consistently bombarded most of our lives by men who invade our personal space, and we are told to accept it because "he likes you." How would you enjoy it if you had people grab-assing you all the time, or comparing you to a piece of meat? How would your mental health fare if you were afraid of turning someone down for fear of what kind of backlash they would unleash? I've seen countless "Nice Guys" turn hostile and vitriolic because of a simple, "No."



Some food for thought for you men.

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to mynameisdanza:



Heh, my husband just showed me one of the ending versions from his game as a Human Noble (though his character was involved with Leliana, not Alistair, so the ending was a bit different). At least I did get to see something of a version of it anyway. I'll just have to get to my own version later with the next playthrough as human noble :) Still need to finish my current Elf one though, heh...



As for the current conversation on the last page or so: I think at least some of us female voices here on the forum did choose our "nice guys" in reality :) I met mine through a MMORPG in fact! You really never know where you might meet someone.

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I need to start my elf one still! >.<

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By the sound of it, people who CLAIM to be nice guys most often arent.


Amen to that. I've never found the aforementioned  "cool" guys particularly interesting (what's so interesting about drinking and smoking just because someone tells you not to, anyway?), but people who seriously claim to be nice usually make me instantly suspicious.

To get back on topic, the thing about Alistair is that he's fictional, so we "know" he's not going to turn out badly. At least I hope he isn't, haven't completed the game yet :)

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Don't worry, the rest of us 'nice guys' who don't get hostile and vitriolic when we're turned down by women become dark, brooding, write lame poetry and then drink ourselves silly.

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*cheers*

I don't think it's only the guys who do that ^.^

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Tassiaw wrote...
Also, imagine, if you will, what it's like for a woman in this world of ours. We have been consistently bombarded most of our lives by men who invade our personal space, and we are told to accept it because "he likes you." How would you enjoy it if you had people grab-assing you all the time, or comparing you to a piece of meat?


I was going to write out a stupid response to this, but in lieu of that (and against my better judgment) I will quote a line from one of the better comedies that come out this decade.

"They're like little baby toes. It's just not fair that they get to
flaunt that stuff, you know... and like, I have to hide every erection
I get.  Just imagine if girls weren't weirded out by our boners and stuff, and
just like wanted to see them. That's the world I one day want to live
in."
--Superbad