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[earthbornFemShep]

merrick97 wrote...

I still dont honestly think they will put a MAJOR decision in DLC that would involve someone's death.

I just see this as creating too many problems for ME3 since they would have to account for people who didnt play the DLC for importing purposes.

I suppose that if the Batarian POW is indeed true they could have ME3 begin with a cutscene saying you've been captured if you HAVENT played the DLC, otherwise if you HAVE played it you will just begin in the camp.

I also wonder how the events of Lair of the Shadow Broker will affect ME3. I still don't expect it will be nothing more than a superficial change (along the lines of Saving Wrex or Killing Wrex in ME1 for ME2).

AGain, who knows? Bioware stated somewhere that they have a lot more freedon im ME3 and therefore they could easily explore multiple path points.

I agree with your first point (highlighted) that there will not be a major decision in the DLC.  It will be epic and awesome, but it will NOT really give you any divergent choices.

As for your second point, I disagree about the 'superficial change'.  The LOTSB DLC did not have a single decision in it.  If you think about it, no decision you made in that DLC have different consequences (LOTSB SPOILERS FOLLOW):
-Spoiler (highlight to read): You always catch Tela
-Spoiler (highlight to read): The hostage always survives
-Spoiler (highight to read): Feron always is rescued
-SPOILER (highlight to read): The Shadow Broker always dies
-(highlight to read) The only thing that differs is whether you have a relationship with Liara or not.

So, my point here is that there can be some major events that are accepted as canon in ME3 because these DLCs won't have decisions that are divergent.  I doubt that the LOTSB or Arrival DLCs will be optional events in ME3.  My guess:  if you have not played them, they will still have happened and will be referenced in game. 

Modifié par earthbornFemShep, 06 mars 2011 - 08:20 .

[earthbornFemShep]

double post

Modifié par earthbornFemShep, 06 mars 2011 - 08:20 .

[merrick97]

earthbornFemShep wrote...

merrick97 wrote...

I still dont honestly think they will put a MAJOR decision in DLC that would involve someone's death.

I just see this as creating too many problems for ME3 since they would have to account for people who didnt play the DLC for importing purposes.

I suppose that if the Batarian POW is indeed true they could have ME3 begin with a cutscene saying you've been captured if you HAVENT played the DLC, otherwise if you HAVE played it you will just begin in the camp.

I also wonder how the events of Lair of the Shadow Broker will affect ME3. I still don't expect it will be nothing more than a superficial change (along the lines of Saving Wrex or Killing Wrex in ME1 for ME2).

AGain, who knows? Bioware stated somewhere that they have a lot more freedon im ME3 and therefore they could easily explore multiple path points.

I agree with your first point (highlighted) that there will not be a major decision in the DLC.  It will be epic and awesome, but it will NOT really give you any divergent choices.

As for your second point, I disagree about the 'superficial change'.  The LOTSB DLC did not have a single decision in it.  If you think about it, no decision you made in that DLC have different consequences (LOTSB SPOILERS FOLLOW):
-Spoiler (highlight to read): You always catch Tela
-Spoiler (highlight to read): The hostage always survives
-Spoiler (highight to read): Feron always is rescued
-SPOILER (highlight to read): The Shadow Broker always dies
-(highlight to read) The only thing that differs is whether you have a relationship with Liara or not.

So, my point here is that there can be some major events that are accepted as canon in ME3 because these DLCs won't have decisions that are divergent.  I doubt that the LOTSB or Arrival DLCs will be optional events in ME3.  My guess:  if you have not played them, they will still have happened and will be referenced in game. 

I couldn't agree with this post more.  I feel that any changes made will be merely on the dialogue level.  It would have been nice if you could have relationshiped Liara in a way that gave you the Paramour achievement/trophy

[Pwener2313]

Man, I have to bumb this thread, I can't accept seeing it die before the DLC is released.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Man, I have to bumb this thread, I can't accept seeing it die before the DLC is released.

Pwener, I wanted to add something.

While I think this is a great idea and is a likely one, I really, really, don't think it qualifies as an Ultimate Sacrifice. The term 'ultimate sacrifice' tends to refer to willingly giving own life for the sake of the great good. Simply surrendering to the enemy isn't an ultimate sacrifice.

Having said that, I'm one of those people who are almost certain that ME3 is going to start with a prison break. I just don't think Shepard will be captured in Arrival, for the aforementioned reason.

[Pwener2313]

Im just bumping it for kicks, obviously this isn't going to happen, Im just doing it for fun. You thought I took all of this seriously? Naw, I just defended my idea, like the site rules allow me to.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I'm really curious what Ultimate Sacrifice is about.

[Pwener2313]

Probably some overhyped nonsense, like losing someone we met an hour ago. In times like those, I do wish I was a BW dev so I could make things right. Because a fan knows what other fans want. Most devs just want money and make wathever suits they're fancy. BW listens to us at least, but honestly, they screw up too (Planet scanning replaces exploration and Mako is craped for tank with a paper hull).

[ADLegend21]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Probably some overhyped nonsense, like losing someone we met an hour ago. In times like those, I do wish I was a BW dev so I could make things right. Because a fan knows what other fans want. Most devs just want money and make wathever suits they're fancy. BW listens to us at least, but honestly, they screw up too (Planet scanning replaces exploration and Mako is craped for tank with a paper hull).

well when oyu get "OMG Levels look the same!" and "OMG MAKO SUCKS" yelled at you for years, you tend to change things.

[Pwener2313]

Im not saying it was *REALLY* bad, just a little bad. Hammerhead drives like a charm and planet scanning can be fixed, which is probably what they did since it's staying for ME3. But I never had a problem with the levels and the MAKO's asiatic driver controls.

[The_Illusive]

If Ultimate Sacrifice is about sacrificing someone we meet at the DLC, then I'll laugh

[Pwener2313]

Don't hold your breath, it'll likely be that.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Yup, it's VERY likely to turn out that way, in fact.

[Chewin]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Man, I have to bumb this thread, I can't accept seeing it die before the DLC is released.

Oh no, don't try with me. You just wanted this thread to reach 6000 views, didn't you:devil:

[The_Illusive]

^Hey, I would to:devil:

Modifié par The_Illusive, 11 mars 2011 - 08:15 .

[Mr. MannlyMan]

Popularity contest ftw?

[oldag07]

http://social.biowar...3/index/6163009 This is the thread that needs to be consistently bumped up. It however has been shut down. Your idea, is definitely has a high probability.

Modifié par oldag07, 13 mars 2011 - 06:21 .

[g-w-m]

Gentleman Moogle wrote...

But okay, I honestly think that the achievement is one of those 'misleading' titles. Something to throw us off when we see it so we all think "oh geeze, someone's going to die." Kinda like the 'Missing in Action' achievement from ME2. The way you look at it, it sounds like something's gone horribly wrong, but you actually get it for RESCUING your crew. 

I just have this sneaking suspicion that it's not relating at all to what we think it is.

Modifié par g-w-m, 20 mars 2011 - 09:32 .

[Akizora]

Probably just Admiral Hacket and his ship sacrificing themselves so that you can escape with some kind of important information that involves which species in the galaxy are working WITH the reapers and how they're entering our galaxy.

[Nathan Redgrave]

Do we know whether waiting until after the Suicide Mission is necessary to play Arrival? If it's possible to play the mission before the Suicide Mission, then that pretty much rules out Shepard or his squadmates as making any kind of ultimate sacrifice.

[Asheer_Khan]

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

Do we know whether waiting until after the Suicide Mission is necessary to play Arrival? If it's possible to play the mission before the Suicide Mission, then that pretty much rules out Shepard or his squadmates as making any kind of ultimate sacrifice.

Possible - maybe. (LotSB can be played before C-Base even if it's marked as bridge DLC)
Recomended - NO (keyword bridge DLC could be very crucial in this case)

[Unit-Alpha]

Pwener2313 wrote...

1. Oblivion rocks

2. James Bond Rocks

Excellent point...

But I'm thinking the achievement will be for sacrificing Tali (if the screenshot is to be believed.)
 
On the other hand, it seems unlikely that they would force you to make a major decision in a DLC.

Modifié par Unit-Alpha, 20 mars 2011 - 04:56 .

[FriendCode]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

But I'm thinking the achievement will be for sacrificing Tali (if the screenshot is to be believed.)

The screenshot has been proven to be fake. It's photoshopped from a picture in the media section. Hell, Liara's assistant is right behind Shepard.

Modifié par FriendCode, 20 mars 2011 - 05:22 .

[MassEffect762]

The only thing that would make this interesting imo is if it's a forced choice and involves a team mate/LI.(ala VS)

[MassEffect762]

Akizora wrote...

Probably just Admiral Hacket and his ship sacrificing themselves so that you can escape with some kind of important information that involves which species in the galaxy are working WITH the reapers and how they're entering our galaxy.

This seems to make the most sense though, has "weight" too.