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[JamieCOTC]

I would like to see a return of the scar, but I really don't want to see my Shepard beaten, whipped, or otherwise tortured in any way. If there has to be "torture" it needs to be off screen or otherwise implied. Besides, the imagination can produce more horrors than any dev can produce.

[ADLegend21]

JamieCOTC wrote...

I would like to see a return of the scar, but I really don't want to see my Shepard beaten, whipped, or otherwise tortured in any way. If there has to be "torture" it needs to be off screen or otherwise implied. Besides, the imagination can produce more horrors than any dev can produce.

I agree. if the torture's on screen I'd probably be saying "oh please my Shepard could take that and wouldn't be screaming like a punk like he/she is!" implied would be much better.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I'm sure any kind of torture would be either be implied or referred to as a past event (ala Akuze). It would thus make sense for Shepard to start off with some scars. This is supposed to be a pretext after all, so it's not meant to actually be shown in detail. A brief opening cutscene with subsequent references to it would suffice.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 26 février 2011 - 06:06 .

[landis963]

I agree with Jamie. Also, the "two year time skip" sounds danger-close to the time-skip that caused most of the plot to happen in ME2 (y'know, apart from the Collectors). Two-month, maybe, especially if the Idiot Ball comes a-calling in the guards and high-ups of whatever facility he's being held in.



But what does Shepard care about danger-close? (cookie to those who can guess the reference)

[Confused-Shepard]

The torture scene would have to implied. Maybe show Shep in chains and perhaps a few red lines on his/her back. Maybe menacing cuts to someone heating an iron rod or something. Hell have the Batarians brand him like livestock (which they actually do). What could be a bigger insult?

Then... PRISON BREAK!



And 3 or so months sounds about right.

[Fiery Phoenix]

When the Alliance suggested arresting Shepard, they estimated the imprisonment would last between five and seven months. While I'm sure the batarians wouldn't be nearly as generous, something would cut their plans short eventually.

[landis963]

Like I said - Idiot Ball allowing for escape opportunity. If not that, then have cavalry arrive as distraction.  Heck, have some batarian high-up come and check on the prisoner, distracting the guards (allowing for escape attempt) and having a convenient escape vehicle.

Modifié par landis963, 26 février 2011 - 06:34 .

[OrlesianWardenCommander]

The batarian plot is logical, they need too reset the paragon and renegade meters and being tortured by some cruel evil batarians would certainly make me rethink my outlook on life, also a good chance for an epic intro, and bring me1 facial scarring back. Only problem for me is we killed sarn ,nazarra the collectors, came back too life assembling a crack team of specialists t

Just too be captured by some disgusting batarians that have the ideals of monsters it would really have too be alot of them vermin too take down even one member of the Normandy Crüe I hope the reapers wipe out there entire rave personally. That's my only qualm about this theory.

[STG]

"You hear that? The guards are coming... for you! Hahahaha!"

[Zulu_DFA]

OrlesianWardenCommander wrote...

The batarian plot is logical, they need too reset the paragon and renegade meters and being tortured by some cruel evil batarians would certainly make me rethink my outlook on life, also a good chance for an epic intro, and bring me1 facial scarring back. Only problem for me is we killed sarn ,nazarra the collectors, came back too life assembling a crack team of specialists t
Just too be captured by some disgusting batarians that have the ideals of monsters it would really have too be alot of them vermin too take down even one member of the Normandy Crüe I hope the reapers wipe out there entire rave personally. That's my only qualm about this theory.

How about the Batarians becoming the "unlikely allies" against the Reapers in ME3?

[Rogue Unit]

STG wrote...

"You hear that? The guards are coming... for you! Hahahaha!"

He eventually ended up with a arrow in the neck.  Right through the bars. Didn't know what hit 'em.

Modifié par Rogue Unit, 26 février 2011 - 08:07 .

[Bluko]

OrlesianWardenCommander wrote...

The batarian plot is logical, they need too reset the paragon and renegade meters and being tortured by some cruel evil batarians would certainly make me rethink my outlook on life, also a good chance for an epic intro, and bring me1 facial scarring back. Only problem for me is we killed sarn ,nazarra the collectors, came back too life assembling a crack team of specialists t
Just too be captured by some disgusting batarians that have the ideals of monsters it would really have too be alot of them vermin too take down even one member of the Normandy Crüe I hope the reapers wipe out there entire rave personally. That's my only qualm about this theory.

Okay I didn't catch everything you said.

But I don't think any of the Normandy crew will be captured. See this way Bioware can convientely write them out of most of the game entirely for new players. They simply won't be in game for anyone starting a brand new game. They'll all have gone seperate ways during Shepard's absence. Also remember some people could have played through ME2 and got everyone killed including Shepard. So this totally fresh start with no ME2 crew would take these people in to account as well.


Of course for those who do import a save your ME2 crew will (what remains) will likely come back during various missions to help you out or you'll bump into them somewhere. Basically they'll all have cameos maybe even temporary squad status for some things. But I'd basically just assume cameos where you get to talk to them. Those who survived will all probably be doing something specific to help stop the Reapers which precludes them from joining Shepard's personal missions.

Like I've said Ashley/Kaidan especially and or Liara will probably
launch some kind of effort to save you. We know Liara cares a lot about
Shepard's well being so it wouldn't be a stretch for her to help again. Also I'm sure the Virmire Survivor will be involved in this DLC. I mean DLC is mainly made for the hardcore fans and since this is such an Alliance focused DLC I would be surprised not to see them show up as the Alliance envoy. This means they'll probably be there as Shepard makes their last stand. Which means come ME3 they'll really feel the need to come bail you out. Heck maybe even Wrex will come back to help Shepard out.

I'm guessing ME3 will end up mirroring Return of the Jedi in a lot ways. Just think of Shepard as kind of the Han Solo.

Still no guarantee any of them would rejoin you as squadmates, but at least you could have a positive reunion with them. Also after that where Shepard could conceivably do whatever. Rejoin the Alliance, form a Spectre team, etc. That remains entirely speculative.

I gotta say if none of this speculation turns out to be true, and Arrival along with the Ultimate Sacrifice is nothing like this I'm going to be pissed. Though I only have myself to blame for seeing too much into things. But with the evidence available I can't believe that at least some of this isn't true. Though Arrival does seem to imply that the Reapers are entering the galaxy. Maybe that's why Object Rho is so important? I can only envision three possible ultimate sacrifices: Virmire Survivor dies (bad idea), let Reapers invade Earth (makes sense with trailer), or Shepard ends up staying behind to save his/her crew this time. (Also given that the Ultimate Sacrifice most often refers to Christ and that Shepard is a sort of Messiah, I'm guessing it will involve Shepard's own life.)

[Aradace]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

OrlesianWardenCommander wrote...

The batarian plot is logical, they need too reset the paragon and renegade meters and being tortured by some cruel evil batarians would certainly make me rethink my outlook on life, also a good chance for an epic intro, and bring me1 facial scarring back. Only problem for me is we killed sarn ,nazarra the collectors, came back too life assembling a crack team of specialists t
Just too be captured by some disgusting batarians that have the ideals of monsters it would really have too be alot of them vermin too take down even one member of the Normandy Crüe I hope the reapers wipe out there entire rave personally. That's my only qualm about this theory.

How about the Batarians becoming the "unlikely allies" against the Reapers in ME3?

Seriously, I really hope not.  The only way I'd be cool with that is if having the batarians on our side was "optional".  I friggin HATE batarians.  I'd sooner have a vorcha or a varren on the squad than a batarian.  As I'd really like to actually play ME3, I cant, in good conscience, support the idea of siding with the batarians in any way

In leiu of that though, I hope if we ARE going to have to help the batarians in any way (i.e. have no choice in the matter) that it is implied or stated in this last DLC that way, I know whether or not I should pre-order ME3. 

Modifié par Aradace, 26 février 2011 - 09:35 .

[jamie94]

so wait bluko are you suggesting that we wont have our team for this DLC or for the whole of me3 cos man do i love a few people on my team lol



i spose a few more people could go down well but i hate this feeling that bioware is giving me it feels as if they cater more for people who haven't played the series first rather then the hardcore fans, the only game i begun with at game number 3 is halo and believe it or not it was easy to understand i just did a bit of reading up about the past games why cant new comers do that.



and i would love a blue suns batarian on the team, as soon as i saw the blue suns armour i've wanted one, cos they just look so cool. he can even have a toggable helmet as his second appearance so you guys who hate them can pretend he is a human.

[duckee788]

off: hi everyone, this is my first reply. And sorry for my English...



on: about the character creation.. if someone started a new game in ME3, they'd create a new Shepard. but if someone import their save game from ME to ME2 then from ME2 to ME3, I think they wouldn't change the appearance of their character.

IMO the character creation/customization is necessary (unless Shepard dies again.)

[Smeelia]

I wouldn't want Shepard to be tortured at all if they end up in prison, I hate it when things like that are forced on my character without anything I could do about it.  If I felt my choices led up to that then it wouldn't be so bad but since this'll be at the start of the game then it'll be a totally unavoidable event.  I just don't like the idea of Shepard doing anything significant without my say so during the story, regardless of what it may actually be.

If Shepard is captured then the escape should be immediate or we should at least get to play through the process (maybe making plans and deciding whether to use brute force or subtlety, giving Renegade and Paragon choices from the start).

Bluko wrote...

I'm guessing ME3 will end up mirroring Return of the Jedi in a lot ways. Just think of Shepard as kind of the Han Solo.

This could work if they need something to allow time to pass between ME2 and ME3.  Shepard could be stuck in a stasis pod or similar (maybe even as a Batarian Lord's trophy) and so they'd be out of action without actually doing anything (so you're not missing out on anything as the player).  I'm hoping they wont actually need any time skipping going into ME3 though since it would feel a little forced and too similar to the start of ME2.

It might be interesting to have a more peaceful beginning to ME3 than starting in Prison and fighting your way out.  They could have you winding down after the suicide mission, with EDI updating your files for the character information part and then you could be chatting to Joker about how the mission went.  Of course you'd get back into the action fairly soon but the first two games had you in action almost right away and with the biggest threat on the way a more calm beginning might provide a good contrast with the danger to come.

Zulu_DFA wrote...

How about the Batarians becoming the "unlikely allies" against the Reapers in ME3?

I think that could work, the Batarians aren't stupid (well, maybe) so they'd probably grudgingly help against something that is obviously a huge threat when it's revealed (of course most people still don't believe in the Reapers at the moment).  You'd have to keep an eye on them since they'd still be thinking about taking any advantage they can get in the end but that's not really different to a Renegade Shepard.

It might also be interesting to explore the Batarian culture a bit and maybe get to see different groups that show that not all Batarians are the same.

[Ahriman]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Im posting this in a new thread because I don't want to de-rail the "Arrival" DLC thread.

So a lot has been going on over at the DLc thread and a lot of actual reasonable things seem to be popping up there. It has reached the point that a concrete reason for the Illusive achievement to exist. I think that Shepard ends up being captured or more likely surrenders himself to the Batarians in the end of the DLC to ensure the Dr. escapes. Like a trade between them since the Dr. seems to have an awful lot of knowledge and the Batarians must have kidnapped her for a reason.

Well, it doesn't sound like an "ultimate sacrifice" to me, especially for Renegades which never do such things. And again batarians are evil. They are slavers, corrupt, terrorists and they eat children for breakfast. There is only two sources of evil in the galaxy: Reapers and batarians . Come on, guys, think wider.

Modifié par Wizz, 26 février 2011 - 12:58 .

[leeboi2]

I think that we're gonna find out Michael Jackson is the leader of the Reapers...And it's the arrival of that very same Reaper, called 'Thriller'

[Aradace]

leeboi2 wrote...

I think that we're gonna find out Michael Jackson is the leader of the Reapers...

If that's the case I say: "Kill it!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kill it with FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Which ironically would probably be it's only weakness is to catch it's tendrils on fire.  (yea, Im probably going to hell for that one lol)

[leeboi2]

Aradace wrote...

leeboi2 wrote...

I think that we're gonna find out Michael Jackson is the leader of the Reapers...

If that's the case I say: "Kill it!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kill it with FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Which ironically would probably be it's only weakness is to catch it's tendrils on fire.  (yea, Im probably going to hell for that one lol)

Is that a reference to the Pepsi advert? 

[Aradace]

leeboi2 wrote...

Aradace wrote...

leeboi2 wrote...

I think that we're gonna find out Michael Jackson is the leader of the Reapers...

If that's the case I say: "Kill it!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kill it with FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Which ironically would probably be it's only weakness is to catch it's tendrils on fire.  (yea, Im probably going to hell for that one lol)

Is that a reference to the Pepsi advert? 

yea lol

[Zulu_DFA]

Aradace wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

How about the Batarians becoming the "unlikely allies" against the Reapers in ME3?

Seriously, I really hope not.  The only way I'd be cool with that is if having the batarians on our side was "optional".  I friggin HATE batarians.  I'd sooner have a vorcha or a varren on the squad than a batarian.  As I'd really like to actually play ME3, I cant, in good conscience, support the idea of siding with the batarians in any way

That's the catch. What BioWare calls "emotional engagement". The "Arrival" DLC will just spice things up even more.

My Shepard hates the Batarians too and thinks that a day without Batarian blood is like a day without sunshine... But the problem is, the Batarains took the Leviathan of Dis, studied Sovereign, and the Mad Prophet sounds as awfully well informed about what's going on. Plus the Batarians have been left untouched so far by the "Big Choices". All that hints that they may have been planned to become a part and even play the pivotal role in the solution to the Reaper problem.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 26 février 2011 - 02:57 .

[Alienmorph]

Geth and Rachins aren't already enought as unlikely allies?

[Zulu_DFA]

Alienmorph wrote...

Geth and Rachins aren't already enought as unlikely allies?

The Rachni are going to bite in the arse those foolish enough to have let the queen go. And the Geth may all become Heretics.

[Aradace]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Alienmorph wrote...

Geth and Rachins aren't already enought as unlikely allies?

The Rachni are going to bite in the arse those foolish enough to have let the queen go. And the Geth may all become Heretics.

Exactly.  Although I do have that one set of data set aside that actually DOES spare the queen and "rewrites" the geth.  One out of the many dozens lol