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[silentassassin264]

The Devs here have someone called "EVIL" Chris and several writers who feast on your sorrows (literally). I honestly don't think they give a care what you think...and I couldn't blame them. Nothing like getting getting all up in arms and you have not even played the game. What is the point of responding to irrational people who are determined to make up their minds beforehand?

[sten_super]

The forums represent a tiny proportion of the players for this game or even for the demo, so are in no way representative. As wolfsite says, most game forums are full of people complaining about certain aspects, even more so when it's a series of games (see the Elder Scrolls forums for an example).



DA2 is certainly significantly different from DAO for PC players (particularly those, like me, that played with the camera fully zoomed out). However that doesn't necessarily make it better or worse; simply different.

[TyDurden13]

Hey dude, there's already a thread for feedback. I don't think we need a thread for feedback from the feedback.

[OurSacrifice]

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

OurSacrifice how old are you? 12? THE GAME IS ON NORMAL! It's easier than DA:O normal which wasn't hard at all with the exception of a few difficulty spikes. The friendly fire is TURNED OFF!!!

I will play the game on hardcore and won't bother with the normal difficulty and I'm sure that the combat will be a strategic.

Clearly, I'm five.

[upsettingshorts]

OurSacrifice wrote...

I'm not talking about this forum when I'm talking about the core Bioware fanbase.  This forum, especially since the EA buyout, has gone to the pits.  All of us old Infinity Engine fans moved to another forum and we almost all still post there.  That's where the disappointment is that's where the core fanbase is showing their displeasure.

So what's your username on RPG Codex?

[rob_k]

Hmm, the place where fans of the Infinity Engine games go is RPG Codex?



Explains it. Been there once or twice, and the amount of swearing etc. there is pretty bad. And this is coming from someone that does swear away from the web.

[Maconbar]

OurSacrifice wrote...

There is nothing tactical about this game.

I can't disagree with this if you are talking about the demo but hear me out. The demo is locked on normal difficulty. I found that in DA:O at normal difficulty I didn't need to play tactically until I got past Ostagar and then it was mostly for boss encounters.

If you still have an open mind about DA:2 watch the gameplay in the Laidlaw interview and if you still don't think that it is tactical that is cool.

www.gamespot.com/shows/now-playing/

[OurSacrifice]

Machines Are Us wrote...



Hopefully they will realise that the people on these forums who **** and moan like there is no tomorrow, are not only in the minority of the Dragon Age fan-base, but also of the forums as well.



If they listened to every single complaint and took them to heart then their games would be horrific, hopefully they will pick and choose the ones that make sense, and have a logical reason behind them.

The people that flood these forums are not representative of the core Bioware fanbase. These forums used to not be flooded with console users and action-adventure fans. These forums used to be a place for people that only like RPGs to post.

[Khayness]

You aren't shareholders!™

[OurSacrifice]

Maconbar wrote...
I can't disagree with this if you are talking about the demo but hear me out. The demo is locked on normal difficulty. I found that in DA:O at normal difficulty I didn't need to play tactically until I got past Ostagar and then it was mostly for boss encounters.

If you still have an open mind about DA:2 watch the gameplay in the Laidlaw interview and if you still don't think that it is tactical that is cool.

www.gamespot.com/shows/now-playing/

Watching now - I'll update when it's over.

[Zkyire]

OurSacrifice wrote...

I'm not talking about this forum when I'm talking about the core Bioware fanbase.

And you are in contact with all these people, yes?

[rob_k]

OP,

You've checked the video Maconbar linked to anyway? At least check that out before judging the game. If you still think the same, then fair enough.

Edit: Ah nevermind, saw that said you're watching it.

Modifié par rob_k, 25 février 2011 - 01:08 .

[AkiKishi]

Machines Are Us wrote...

Hopefully they will realise that the people on these forums who **** and moan like there is no tomorrow, are not only in the minority of the Dragon Age fan-base, but also of the forums as well.

Actually I'm wondering how many people who are saying "It will be ok wait for the main game" will be complaining after playing it.

Bioware chose to release the demo, it's only to be expected that people reach conclusions from playing it. That is the purpose of a demo after all.

The majority of people won't ever come here and Bioware will only see any negatives in DA3's sales. DA2 is riding on the wave created by DA so people expecting the game to continue the DA tradition ,rather than be hands on arcadey and ME in space won't realise it till they already bought the game.

[Lumikki]

OurSacrifice wrote...

I'm not talking about this forum when I'm talking about the core Bioware fanbase.  This forum, especially since the EA buyout, has gone to the pits.  All of us old Infinity Engine fans moved to another forum and we almost all still post there.  That's where the disappointment is that's where the core fanbase is showing their displeasure.

People allways like to make them self more important they really are.

Modifié par Lumikki, 25 février 2011 - 01:08 .

[PhrosniteAgainROFL]

This is truely the age of whinners

[kingjezza]

Personally I try to ignore the extremes on both sides, either the "omg DA2 is the best game ever" or "omg this is the worst game ever" threads I mostly ignore.



I guess for some and I'll include myself in this the negativity comes from disappointment in the direction the game has gone, some say it's pretty much the same but it doesn't look, play or feel the same for me. If it was a new game then I would just move on and not give it a second thought but many have an investment in the series now thanks to the first game. In the end I'll just be one of those who doesn't get the game he wants, I suspect they'll be many, just as I expect they'll be many who love everything about DA2 and get the game they want, you can't please everybody right.

[rob_k]

I can relate to that, King. I only really object to people claiming to speak for others. *shrugs*

I just know I've bought every game from BioWare at some point or another, even if I don't own them all now . So, they really can't speak for me or others like me.

You've seen the Gamespot video though? That is if the misgivings you have come from the combat.

Modifié par rob_k, 25 février 2011 - 01:14 .

[Derax]

rob_k wrote...

OurSacrifice wrote...

rob_k wrote...

I'd hardly say it's the core of their fanbase. 70 -78% of the people who've participated in polls have said they're keeping their pre-order or pre-ordering. This applies to being satisfied with the demo (even if there are some issues).

It's just that the ones who complain make it seem like there's a lot of people unhappy. Not to mention the actual trolls who have no interest in the game and such.

Polls aren't representative of core fanbase.  This dumbed down product has a wide appeal to casual gamers and is purely a slap in the face of the community that gave Bioware the success they currently have.  Had it not been for the overwhelming support they recieved during the Infinity Engine days nobody would be sitting here discussing their games today.  Sure, they've created an entirely new set of fans from the console world because this game is simplistic in design and execution.  No thought process is required above moving away from "big hits".

Really? You speak for everyone then? I've bought BG, BG2, PST, IWD etc. and the newer releases (only ones I don't own are Jade Empire and the Mass Effect games due to my Xbox breaking).

I even bought Origins twice.

So, you claim to speak for me and everyone else? You've played the entire game too?

Funny that the game plays rather the same as Origins as well combat wise, outside of camera changes, animations and faster combat.

But hey, let's disregard that and just call it an action game.

This is not a new topic either.

Edit: I know how it is though, you want to think you're with the majority. I can relate, but you really shouldn't disregard polls and just claim your opinion as fact without evidence. Nor speak for every one who enjoys Bioware's games.

He is only speaking for the majority 

[Persephone]

OurSacrifice wrote...

Seems to me like the general perception from a large core group of the Bioware fanbase is that they're disappointed with DA2.

Whether it's the flashy gameplay and complete lack of tactical options, to the poor voice acting, lack of atmosphere, the feeling of going backwards from the forward progress that the first game achieved.

Sure there are some that like it, and from what I've seen the majority that do didn't like the 1st one as much (yes there are people that like both so there's no need to spam flood the thread stating you do).

Just curious as to how Bioware is reacting to the shock and awe of the state of this particular franchise.  I thought Brent was being a little melodramatic on his blog when he gave reasons for why he left, but after seeing the demo, I can see where he was coming from.

Is this the new direction of the company itself?  Are we truly past the days of tactical combat in your RPGs?

My feelings after playing can be summed up briefly:

"Very disappointed in Bioware." 

Really? Most posts I have read (Esp. on the demo) were quite positive. I'll admit to not following everything religiously, given how busy this forum is.

[scr280]

A part of the bioware fanbase are complete dicks like your self who judge the entire quality of the game prologue and a later mission. Also dragon age origions wasnt a tactical game at all I beat it on nightmare on the 360 hardly using the in combat pause function

[Rune-Chan]

OurSacrifice wrote...

Machines Are Us wrote...

Hopefullythey will realise that the people on these forums who **** and moan like there is no tomorrow, are not only in the minority of the Dragon Age fan-base, but also of the forums as well.

If they listened toevery single complaint and took them to heart then their games would behorrific, hopefully they will pick and choose the ones that make sense,and have a logical reason behind them.

The people that flood these forums are not representative of the core Bioware fanbase. These forums used to not be flooded with console users and action-adventure fans. These forums used to be a place for people that
only like RPGs to post.

Read my updated post.

They changed f**k all about the RPG aspects of the game from what we can tell so far.

Pressing the attack button for each strike does not change the genre of game, not if it is still affected by stats (which it is, hence the levelling system).

That is pretty much the only major difference we have seen so far, the ability to use tactics is still there, should you choose to use it.

Seriously, considering all the "True die-hard Bioware" fans are the whiny, self entitled ones who complain about every single little thing that doesn't fit in with their own vision of a perfect game, I am not surprised Bioware are trying to expand their market.

Modifié par Machines Are Us, 25 février 2011 - 01:19 .

[Skilled Seeker]

I can't wait till you grievers get tired of ****ing and leave the forums. You won't be missed. Meanwhile I'll be enjoy DA2 on nightmare mode, all settings maxed out with DX11 in 3D

[rob_k]

Derax wrote...

He is only speaking for the majority 

Maybe, but I've yet to see the proof of that.

In any case, you have my apologies, OP. You're right, I didn't read the original post correctly.

Edit: I still don't agree with you saying a 'large' part of the core fanbase, but at least you didn't say 'all'. That's what I assumed, hence the apology.

Modifié par rob_k, 25 février 2011 - 01:20 .

[upsettingshorts]

Derax wrote...

He is only speaking for the majority

He doesn't have that authority.  None of us do.

[Sir Edric]

can you "button smash" like in DA 2 in DA:O on the Xbox?