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[rob_k]

hhh89 wrote...

Just to point out, the game lenght will change, if you play a different difficulty. Peter Thomas completed DA2 in noghtmare in +100 hours (a lot more than 100 hours, but I don't remember exactly the number).

Nice to hear. That's the first time I've heard a definite figure given, outside of the estimates.

Granted, I'll probably be playing on normal or hard, as I played Origins on normal. (Both PC and PS3)

Edit: By the way, I do remember that in one video/interview, Mike did say they perhaps have more side-quest content than in Origins. I can't remember which video it was in though.

Modifié par rob_k, 25 février 2011 - 03:40 .

[AkiKishi]

[quote]AlexXIV wrote...

Just to point out, the game lenght will change, if you play a different difficulty. Peter Thomas completed DA2 in noghtmare in +100 hours (a lot more than 100 hours, but I don't remember exactly the number).[/quote]
Well I guess that's because you lose alot of battles and have to reload? I am not sure I can be bothered with a nightmare playthrough unless the combat as such is so much fun that I love to do it. In DA:O anyway I played once in every difficulty level because I was curious, but I would never play on higher than normal now, because I fount the combat as such a bit lame.[/quote]

Re-loads are not taken into account by the game clock. Things just have more hps and with the number of things you kill it just adds up.

[Red_warning]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

It depends on the player... Mike Laidlaw said it's longer than ME2(35hours) but shorter than DA:O(75hours) so I expect 40-50 hours to finish.

Those numbers are why I ask what Swedish PC Gamer's playthrough times were in Origins.  I personally can't fathom getting 75 hours out of a DA:O playthrough.  My ME1-2 games ran roughly 30-40 hours, and my DAO games ran roughtly 40-50 hours, a far smaller difference than is sometimes reported on these forums and in magazines, so I'm interested in seeing how they compared.

I don't get it, the longest playthrough of my five character reached about 35 hours with 99 % of the game completed. I have no idea how is it possible to get 50 - 70 hours from DA:O and I fear DA2 will be 25-ish hours for me.

[Bryzon]

I read a lot of the gaming magazines, but I rarely ever agree with their reviews, especially on the bigger games. The only reviewers that I almost always agree with is Gametrailers.com Some of the concerns in this thread are not too worrisome. Without playing the game yet, I can't put some of the complaints in context.

[AkiKishi]

Red_warning wrote...

I don't get it, the longest playthrough of my five character reached about 35 hours with 99 % of the game completed. I have no idea how is it possible to get 50 - 70 hours from DA:O and I fear DA2 will be 25-ish hours for me.

Did you skip dialogue? That makes a huge difference in playtime.

[Wissenschaft]

The game takes place over several years so its fine if we visit the same cave 3 times as long as they are at different time periods.



Also, the majority of the game will take place inside the city so its rather expected you'll be visiting the same key places over and over again during the different time periods.

[congealeddgtllvr]

junte86 wrote...

I see your argunebt but the same can be applied to anyone, people have personal standard or forumula that they expect for a game, and good story is one thing, Sure there will be people who will bash DA2 and there will be people who just love DA2, but about the storyline not being good, all the reviews have praied the narrative style but have also criticized the cliffhanger ending and not much depth and focus inside the main plot, of course we wont know untill we play it, but If all reviewers are basically saying the same thing, it means something.

Sacrifice was a really new and revolutionary in terms of gameplay and story wasnt that bad,...and yet it failed.. anyway the only new thing Devs talked about the new thing in the story is the narrative style and no ancient evil(But really these kind of stories existed before DA2, Tales of the abyss last boss, and you could also say Toremnt was a more of a personal confilic and both were pretty good and eveyrone praiesed it, but DA2 seems to now follow the usual course of being praised with excellent storyline.)

I'm not saying DA2 will be the first to try something new.  It will probably not be able to approach Torment in terms of telling a good story.  I mean that the specific kind of story it tells might be different or new to a lot of reviewers, and they might be put off by that.  

But I agree that if they all criticize the story for something specific like a lack of focus it probably means something.  

[Johnny Shepard]

TwistedComplex wrote...

congealeddgtllvr wrote...

DA2 will probably get bad reviews because it will actually have a good story. In other words, most videogame reviewers are people who only play videogames about saving the world, watch movies about saving the world, read comic books about saving the world, etc. The story of DA2 will confuse and alienate them, not in the sense that they won't understand it, but in the sense that it isn't what they are used to responding to.

I don't believe that.

Usually game review sites have "specialized" game reviewers

When an RPG reviewer gets his hands on DA2, i have no doubt they will appreciate the story.

Just look at the reviews of DA:O. Let's be honest, the combat was nothing to write home about, and the whole game felt... "Dated" i guess would be the best word. DA2 will blow it out of the water, and that's saying A LOT since DA:O has a special place in my heart

I hope your right. The Swedish magazines many times use reviewers who hate the type of game to review it. Somehow they feel that it will do the game most justice. I don't know how many reviews I have read that start with "I don't like this sort of games...". An exemple is that a guy who hated FPS reviewed HALO 2, somone who hates Final Fantasy games reviewed a Final Fantasy game aso.
Not that the ones who love that type of game is much bether. I hated all the times I read "this isn't Half-Life 2" on a FPS review and how they gave it a lower score because of that.

[ArcanistLibram]

The lack of an antagonist gets massive points from me. I'd rather have story like A Song of Ice and Fire where the protagonists are working for their own sake.

[Red_warning]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Red_warning wrote...

I don't get it, the longest playthrough of my five character reached about 35 hours with 99 % of the game completed. I have no idea how is it possible to get 50 - 70 hours from DA:O and I fear DA2 will be 25-ish hours for me.

Did you skip dialogue? That makes a huge difference in playtime.

On my longest playthrough (35 h) I made sure to skipp nothing and enjoy the game to the maximum.

[congealeddgtllvr]

ArcanistLibram wrote...

The lack of an antagonist gets massive points from me. I'd rather have story like A Song of Ice and Fire where the protagonists are working for their own sake.

Me too 

[Wissenschaft]

Red_warning wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Red_warning wrote...

I don't get it, the longest playthrough of my five character reached about 35 hours with 99 % of the game completed. I have no idea how is it possible to get 50 - 70 hours from DA:O and I fear DA2 will be 25-ish hours for me.

Did you skip dialogue? That makes a huge difference in playtime.

On my longest playthrough (35 h) I made sure to skipp nothing and enjoy the game to the maximum.

I have no idea how you speed demons do it. I can't get below 60+ hours and its usually more like 80+ hours.

[Nerevar-as]

ArcanistLibram wrote...

The lack of an antagonist gets massive points from me. I'd rather have story like A Song of Ice and Fire where the protagonists are working for their own sake.

The Lannisters are antagonists (well, some of them). Well written and deeper motivations than "for the evulz" doesn´t mean they aren´t the villains of the story. On the other side the Others don´t seem to be much deeper than the AD.

[Red_warning]

Wissenschaft wrote...

Red_warning wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Red_warning wrote...

I don't get it, the longest playthrough of my five character reached about 35 hours with 99 % of the game completed. I have no idea how is it possible to get 50 - 70 hours from DA:O and I fear DA2 will be 25-ish hours for me.

Did you skip dialogue? That makes a huge difference in playtime.

On my longest playthrough (35 h) I made sure to skipp nothing and enjoy the game to the maximum.

I have no idea how you speed demons do it. I can't get below 60+ hours and its usually more like 80+ hours.

Haha, that's what my friend told me. When he was done with his first playthrough that took him 80 or so hours, I was working on my third.

[Maconbar]

Nerevar-as wrote...

ArcanistLibram wrote...

The lack of an antagonist gets massive points from me. I'd rather have story like A Song of Ice and Fire where the protagonists are working for their own sake.

The Lannisters are antagonists (well, some of them). Well written and deeper motivations than "for the evulz" doesn´t mean they aren´t the villains of the story. On the other side the Others don´t seem to be much deeper than the AD.

The Others aren't evil, they just have a different perspective.

[FieryDove]

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

I call BS on that. Also the isometric camera su**ed in DA:O!!! I wish you could zoom out a bit more in DA2 though(not isometric!!!)

My pet fireball disagree's with you. Just saying.

As to the review it would make sense places are reused but only a bit changed possibly with a time jump. If 95% of the time is spent in Kirkwall its to be expected.

Maybe DA3 will be based out of a forest...or a garden! Yes half veggies, half flowers. I really prefer outdoor areas but eh.

[TwistedComplex]

Wissenschaft wrote...

Red_warning wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Red_warning wrote...

I don't get it, the longest playthrough of my five character reached about 35 hours with 99 % of the game completed. I have no idea how is it possible to get 50 - 70 hours from DA:O and I fear DA2 will be 25-ish hours for me.

Did you skip dialogue? That makes a huge difference in playtime.

On my longest playthrough (35 h) I made sure to skipp nothing and enjoy the game to the maximum.

I have no idea how you speed demons do it. I can't get below 60+ hours and its usually more like 80+ hours.

It's not TOO far fetched. Played it 9 times, full run i can do in 30 hours.

Modifié par TwistedComplex, 25 février 2011 - 04:15 .

[Johnny Shepard]

Red_warning wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

It depends on the player... Mike Laidlaw said it's longer than ME2(35hours) but shorter than DA:O(75hours) so I expect 40-50 hours to finish.

Those numbers are why I ask what Swedish PC Gamer's playthrough times were in Origins.  I personally can't fathom getting 75 hours out of a DA:O playthrough.  My ME1-2 games ran roughly 30-40 hours, and my DAO games ran roughtly 40-50 hours, a far smaller difference than is sometimes reported on these forums and in magazines, so I'm interested in seeing how they compared.

I don't get it, the longest playthrough of my five character reached about 35 hours with 99 % of the game completed. I have no idea how is it possible to get 50 - 70 hours from DA:O and I fear DA2 will be 25-ish hours for me.

I don't get how you can finnish DA:O in 35h. In my rushed playthrough I was in the middle of the Redcliff quest when I hit 35h and I hadn't done any of the other main quests yet. Right now I'm on 77h and I have just started the Anvil of the Void quest and it's my last allied quest. I'm playing the fastest I can with my Mage being buffed up by bonus items so that he kills all enemys in under 10 seconds (usaly in 1 hit). Before I have done the Landsmeet and the final battle it will be 100h.
I just don't get it how it is possible for you guys to finnish the game that quick and still you say you did all of the things you can in the game.
Sure, I play it on normal and I use the pause'n play tactics alot. I guess maybe you play it on easy? But still, 35h???

Modifié par Johnny Shepard, 25 février 2011 - 04:35 .

[Annihilator27]

drahelvete wrote...

Marionetten wrote...

Yes, apparently we can side with the Qunari.

YES!

I support the Mages, But if this is true.........

[Ani77]

Marionetten wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Any more details you could glean from it?

As said, they didn't go too deep into gameplay. They did however seem very pleased with the story telling. Pleased enough to compare it to Planescape: Torment's. Most of their issues lied with the plot itself. Apparently the game lacks a major antagonist until the very end. They said that most of the game was spent in Kirkwall running errands for the three factions. Qunari, Circle and Chantry. Yes, apparently we can side with the Qunari.

Upsettingshorts wrote...

The same cave, or three caves that look the same?  I'm only asking because I'd like to know if they made it clear, and the former wouldn't bug me - personally - as much as the latter.

The same cave.

Marionetten,what is the meaning of  running errands?Maybe Sidequests ?Like  in Origins the board?

[DTKT]

Well, my prediction of a 85 metacritic sounds pretty accurate...

[SurelyForth]

So playtimes don't really concern me. Besides my first time playing DAO (in which I was lost in the Fade for literally four hours IRL), I clock in at 33.5 hours pretty much every time. That's skipping some dialogue, but doing pretty much every quest I can. I've played ME2 three times and, with scanning and Alliance sidequests, I average about the same. I'm more concerned with replay value which has never been a problem for me w. BW games.



And I am also excited by the lack of a clear antagonist and am very much interested in a plot that isn't about saving the world, but rather changing it through smaller decisions made over time. If the companions are deep and the writing good overall, I might like DA2 more than DAO.

[hero3440]

85 for dragon age 2 is that a good news or bad news?

[Covi]

hero3440 wrote...

85 for dragon age 2 is that a good news or bad news?

It's pretty low for a Bioware title. But there have been more positive reviews. 87, 88 (German magazines) and 94 (PC Gamer UK) if I remember correctly.

Modifié par Covi, 25 février 2011 - 05:33 .

[Ryzaki]

ninnisinni97 wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

The same cave, or three caves that look the same?  I'm only asking because I'd like to know if they made it clear, and the former wouldn't bug me - personally - as much as the latter.

The same cave.

Well, I'm not so sure about that. I read the article too, and I got the impression they meant that you visit three different caves, and all of them looks the same...

Did you read all the spoilers? Can you please please please put them in another thread in a list or something? Pretty please?