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[Lacan2]

Very troubling about the story.

[DTKT]

Covi wrote...

hero3440 wrote...

85 for dragon age 2 is that a good news or bad news?

It's pretty low for a Bioware title. But there have been more positive reviews. 87, 88 (German magazines) and 94 (PC Gamer UK) if I remember correctly.

It would be a step down for Bioware. And there would probably be repercussion from EA if DAII gets an 80-85 average.

[Marionetten]

Ani77 wrote...

Marionetten,what is the meaning of  running errands?Maybe Sidequests ?Like  in Origins the board?

Hawke is trying to gain favor with the various factions by doing quests for them while climbing up the social ladder. Not sure if they are sidequests or not but the three-way conflict seems to be a pretty integral plot element.

[hero3440]

DTKT wrote...

Covi wrote...

hero3440 wrote...

85 for dragon age 2 is that a good news or bad news?

It's pretty low for a Bioware title. But there have been more positive reviews. 87, 88 (German magazines) and 94 (PC Gamer UK) if I remember correctly.

It would be a step down for Bioware. And there would probably be repercussion from EA if DAII gets an 80-85 average.

Is getting an average of 85 really that bad after all not every game is gonna get an 90 or higher. As long as we enjoy playing it that is what it really matters right?

Modifié par hero3440, 25 février 2011 - 06:09 .

[OSUfan12121]

When did everyone become so obssessed with ratings? I remember back when gaming was first hitting it stride no one cared about how good games were, people played because they enjoyed them. Now people freak out about an arbitrery number thats based on an opinion from a random person on the internet.

[Johnny Shepard]

OSUfan12121 wrote...

When did everyone become so obssessed with ratings? I remember back when gaming was first hitting it stride no one cared about how good games were, people played because they enjoyed them. Now people freak out about an arbitrery number thats based on an opinion from a random person on the internet.

I could not agree more. Myself I usaly never care about the score. The only time is if I am unsure about a game then I might check and se what scores it got but I check many scores before desiding.

[falconlord5]

Yeah, I typically ignore the ratings, unless they're really, really low (like, 35 or so).

[aries1001]

My first playthrough of DA: Origins was about, I think 115-120 hours, and for DA: Awakenings about 40 hours. I think I maybe reloaded and played the same areas and quests again for maybe 10-15 hours in DA: Origins and for about 3-5 hours in Awakenings. I simply don't understand how you can play DA: Origins in less than say 20 or 30 hours. The Origin stories alone takes like at least 6-10 hours to finish.



As for the score, an 85/100 is a really good score in Europe. I'm a bit worried about the reviewer talking about the hastily assembled plot. I do like, and have from the very beginning, been excited about the 'no secret order. no big evil to kill. no saving the world.' And best of all: The game's plot is about a human, male or female, who raises to power by himself or herself. No more of this traditional: but it is written....I alwaus thought they needed to write less...



But Bioware writers have written - and we'll find out soon enough if the plot has been well written or not.

[Blacklash93]

A ton of critics complained how filler-esque ME2's story was, and while it was definitely true it didn't bother me in the least. This is about Hawke's rise to power, not some epic journey to save something. The devs have made this clear many, many times.

Recycled environments, however, are very troubling to hear. If it's even half as bad as it was in ME1, we're in for a serious issue with the game.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 25 février 2011 - 09:03 .

[Smertnik]

Marionetten wrote...
Apparently the game lacks a major antagonist until the very end.

That's a good thing, in my opinion.  I really didn't like the cliche ridden story of DA:O.
"The dark evil Darkspawn demons spawned from their dark evil world and you have to defeat their Archdemon, who is also very dark and evil!"
Anything that isn't a run-of-the-mill fantasy story is more than welcomed by me.


OT: Never cared about ratings.  I build my opinion about a game mostly upon gameplay videos and demos.

Modifié par Smertnik, 25 février 2011 - 09:09 .

[Blacklash93]

ArcanistLibram wrote...

The lack of an antagonist gets massive points from me. I'd rather have story like A Song of Ice and Fire where the protagonists are working for their own sake.

It all matters how it's executed. A lack of an antagonist can certainly make a story feel empty, but if done right it can feel quite refreshing. It'll be interesting to see how Bioware pulled it off.

Some people, however, will alway dislike it. Some people need an antagonist to find drive and motivation in a story. There's nothing wrong with that, but keep in mind that the reviewer might be one of those people.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 25 février 2011 - 09:09 .

[Blacklash93]

drahelvete wrote...

The same cave? That's not recycling.

It is in the sense that they're reusing the area for another plot that doesn't need to take place there.

[Waage25]

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

Waage25 wrote...

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

TwistedComplex wrote...

DA:O got 95/100?

That's pretty generous

Not, it's not. Gamespot gave it the same score. Let's wait and see what score they'll give DA2.

That dose not matter.

All scores on every major gaming site is payed for in advanced through Add campaigns and access to "exclusive" content.

AND YES i mean EVERY big gaming site.

Are you f-ing kidding me? You kids make me laugh. Giantbomb's own Dave Snider gave it a 5/5 = 10/10 and when asked where it stands in his top RPG said it was very high. If you knew anything about giant bomb you would know they can't be bought. They gave FF13 a 3/5, GT 5 a 3/5 and many other high profile games got 4 and below on their site.

YOU keep telling your self that.
I know all about Giantbombs history, but the fact is that IF they do not GIVE a specific ratting they will be PUNISHED in the form of blacklistning and no more acces to content.

NO more addcampigns.
NO more Content for there site.

NOW a 3/5 is a Okay to good rating on the Giant bomb scale and that they gave FF13 the MOST horrible Final Fantasy game EVER a 3/5 is god dam telling.

I am somewhat of a FF fanboy and FF13 even among the most diehard fans are hated.

NOW DA2 might be a PERFECT GAME, but that dose not change the fact that EA is known to blacklist any site that dose not JUMP when they want them to.

[Aesieru]

I liked the Cocoon Levels of FF13, not the "On-Ground" levels.

[AtreiyaN7]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

It depends on the player... Mike Laidlaw said it's longer than ME2(35hours) but shorter than DA:O(75hours) so I expect 40-50 hours to finish.

Those numbers are why I ask what Swedish PC Gamer's playthrough times were in Origins.  I personally can't fathom getting 75 hours out of a DA:O playthrough.  My ME1-2 games ran roughly 30-40 hours, and my DAO games ran roughtly 40-50 hours, a far smaller difference than is sometimes reported on these forums and in magazines, so I'm interested in seeing how they compared.

I averaged about that on ME1 & ME2 . It really did take me around 80 hours (or more - it's been a while  ) on my first DA:O playthrough, but that was only because I read the Codex in detail and listened to all the dialogue. That, and I replayed several hours of the game just to save Alistair (yeeeah, didn't know he'd sacrifice himself the first time out...woops!). Subsequent DA:O runs were much faster, especially after I stopped reading the codex and skipped dialogue. Think i got it down to 50-60 hours - maybe less. Still haven't finished my last run, but I'm not really planning to at this point.

[RPGamer13]

Cod dammit...



I don't like not having a final boss, Fable 2 did it and it was rather anti-climatic.



Well, Bioware's writers are better at story telling so there's a good chance they can make it feel more epic, and not the let down feeling I received from Fable 2.

[TheCreeper]

RPGamer13 wrote...

Cod dammit...

I don't like not having a final boss, Fable 2 did it and it was rather anti-climatic.

Well, Bioware's writers are better at story telling so there's a good chance they can make it feel more epic, and not the let down feeling I received from Fable 2.

Or Fable 3.

[Aesieru]

Fable 2 was fine in my eyes, Fable 3 however....

[junte86]

aries1001 wrote...

My first playthrough of DA: Origins was about, I think 115-120 hours, and for DA: Awakenings about 40 hours. I think I maybe reloaded and played the same areas and quests again for maybe 10-15 hours in DA: Origins and for about 3-5 hours in Awakenings. I simply don't understand how you can play DA: Origins in less than say 20 or 30 hours. The Origin stories alone takes like at least 6-10 hours to finish.

As for the score, an 85/100 is a really good score in Europe. I'm a bit worried about the reviewer talking about the hastily assembled plot. I do like, and have from the very beginning, been excited about the 'no secret order. no big evil to kill. no saving the world.' And best of all: The game's plot is about a human, male or female, who raises to power by himself or herself. No more of this traditional: but it is written....I alwaus thought they needed to write less...

But Bioware writers have written - and we'll find out soon enough if the plot has been well written or not.

Awakenings 40 hours??? I finished Awakening in like 12 or 13 hours and no the origin stories alone do not last for 6~10 hours. Well I guess since there are people who just take their time.... it is possbie but your time seems to be little off with average player

[MorrigansLove]

Ah, yes. I read this. They said that the story was definitely the weakest aspect. Which is horrible.

[RohanD]

Fact: so far DA2 is getting worse reviews than origins. This means that people who review games professionally and, as many have stated, rely on pleasing game companies to get exclusives down the track, did not hesitate to give it a lower score than its predecessor. That is a big deal. That means, to me, that you should probably minus 5-10 points from each review for a real score, which was a pretty accurate method for getting a correct score for FFXIII

Modifié par RohanD, 25 février 2011 - 10:39 .

[OSUfan12121]

RohanD wrote...

Fact: so far DA2 is getting worse reviews than origins. This means that people who review games professionally and, as many have stated, rely on pleasing game companies to get exclusives down the track, did not hesitate to give it a lower score than it's predecessor. That is a big deal. That means, to me, that you should probably minus 5-10 points from each review for a real score, which was a pretty accurate method for getting a correct score for FFXIII

Actually weve gotten ONE low review 2 reviews at 87-88(average of DA:O) and one at 94(Higher then DA:O). But again ill just say theyre all just arbitrery numbers based on someones elses opinion over the internet and should have no bearing on how well a game sells.

[RohanD]

The PC gamer UK review (the one that gave it 94) was so painful to read. It read like it was written by a teenager taking a combination of steroids and viagra. It was full of many of the marketing talking points which have just plain sucked, and it opened the review by bashing Origins.

[PhrosniteAgainROFL]

Waage25 wrote...

YOU keep telling your self that.
I know all about Giantbombs history, but the fact is that IF they do not GIVE a specific ratting they will be PUNISHED in the form of blacklistning and no more acces to content.

NO more addcampigns.
NO more Content for there site.

NOW a 3/5 is a Okay to good rating on the Giant bomb scale and that they gave FF13 the MOST horrible Final Fantasy game EVER a 3/5 is god dam telling.

I am somewhat of a FF fanboy and FF13 even among the most diehard fans are hated.

NOW DA2 might be a PERFECT GAME, but that dose not change the fact that EA is known to blacklist any site that dose not JUMP when they want them to.

And how long is giantbomb's hystory?
Dude you don't know what you are talking about. Trollalalala.

Modifié par PhrosniteAgainROFL, 25 février 2011 - 10:46 .

[AtreiyaN7]

RohanD wrote...

The PC gamer UK review (the one that gave it 94) was so painful to read. It read like it was written by a teenager taking a combination of steroids and viagra. It was full of many of the marketing talking points which have just plain sucked, and it opened the review by bashing Origins.

Overuse of streoids usually kills the male sex drive, so that makes exactly zero sense if you're trying to imply that it's like increasing one's sex drive AND using Viagra.

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 25 février 2011 - 10:56 .