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[Russalka]

Was it really Friday? I keep forgetting due to the release dates.

[Russalka]

Because it is a marketing choice.

EDIT: Taleroth answers it better.

Modifié par Russalka, 25 février 2011 - 02:40 .

[Taleroth]

Autolycus wrote...

Otherwise, why does North America have to wait for Two Worlds II (EU release first), The Witcher II, Cod and many other games (as mentioned earlier) are released on the 'same' day worldwide?

 Some games like Two Worlds II go with their native country first, then they localize for other regions.  This is not a localization concern.

Other games, the ones who do simultaneous, pay the stores extra to get non-standard release dates.

Modifié par Taleroth, 25 février 2011 - 02:40 .

[AlexXIV]

Taleroth wrote...

Autolycus wrote...

Taleroth...stock the shelves? Are you being serious or was that some sort of metaphor?

Yes, I'm being serious.  Our stores stock the shelves normally on Tuesday.  Europe stocks them on Friday.

To get around that usually is more expensive.  Especially since stores are actually selling their shelf space nowadays.

You don't stock shelves with preorder items, as games. The customer goes to the sales person and says I have preordered a game, is it there? The sales guys says yes or no and fetches your game or not. If they put preorder items in the shelves, how could they keep the wrong people from buying it instead of the one who preordered?

So basically anyone who preordered should be able to play at release day unless the publisher has some block there that keeps the shops from handing out the game.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 25 février 2011 - 02:41 .

[Sengoku no Maou]

Autolycus wrote...

Question for you. Why 'should' North America get it before anyone else, regardless of the time frame involved?

It's just a game. If this were about the civil liberties of my fellow man, I'd be singing a different tune. I swear you people are like children wailing about to their mother about not getting your dessert when you want it.

Taleroth wrote...Because our stores stock their shelves before
anyone else.

Or are you trying to take a moral imperative angle?

That's not necessarily true. This isn't a case of the game shipping Tuesday and arriving Wednesday. Most popular games, such as Halo, CoD, etc., are shipped out well before release date and most retail outlets will have them about 1 or 2 weeks before release.

[Taleroth]

Autolycus wrote...

Yes, I'm being serious. Our stores stock the shelves normally on Tuesday. Europe stocks them on Friday.
To get around that usually is more expensive. Especially since stores are actually selling their shelf space nowadays.

Tradition and nothing more. Caused by companies like EA in the first place. It does not cost EU retailers any more money, regardless of the day they put stock out into the store, be that a Friday, Wed afternoon or or a Monday morning.

It has nothing to do with how much it costs EU retailers.  Retailers charge publishers for shelf space.  It's not EA's doing.

Sengoku no Maou wrote...

Most popular games, such as Halo, CoD, etc., are shipped out well before release date and most retail outlets will have them about 1 or 2 weeks before release.

That's an entirely different issue.  Generally it's so that all stores in a region can fairly compete on release dates.  Not all of the stores do get it early.  But with high volume, they have to start shipping out some earlier to make sure all copies are ready.

Modifié par Taleroth, 25 février 2011 - 02:44 .

[Count Viceroy]

As alex mentioned. The stock argument is only valid for store sales. The retailers have the games weeks in advance. Anyone who pre-orders should be getting the game on release day.

[TwistedComplex]

Because america is number 1

USA USA USA USA!!!

Modifié par TwistedComplex, 25 février 2011 - 02:44 .

[Count Viceroy]

scyphozoa wrote...

Good news everyone, in the very near and inevitable future of digitalization. All games will be distributed on the same date*. Hooray for no more clunky physical media formats.

*maybe

It's a real shame that digital platforms like steam still have to abide by their publishers nonsense. So no luck on that front, for now.

[TwistedComplex]

But really. I'm sure there is a perfectly legitimate reason



Logistics maybe. EA would love nothing more than to make all the money at once



If you think EA is doing it to "troll" europeans, I'm afraid you're deluding yourself

[TwistedComplex]

Autolycus wrote...

Sycoph..
And what difference does that make? Already confirmed that on Steam you can download it early, if your in the EU, you still can't play it until the 11th.....

It has to do with a very complex and complicated business of shipping, contracts, logistics, etc.

If they released it on steam the same day as NA but the others had to wait 3 days to get their disks, then everyone would buy from steam, there would be talk of fraud, steam would own more of the digital market, blah da blah de blah

[ByakuShiki]

Cloud Strife VII wrote...

Tradition of getting screwed over ?
Yes in that case Europeons (I know it should be written Europeans) most of the time get the short end.
They get to wait several more days while their US counterpart always get their games before them.
They also get the "honor" of paying more than their US counterpart especially when the Euro is stronger than the US dollar which has been going on for a while.
Sometimes the US collector's version of the game is way better than the Europeans' version.
In some countries there is no multilingual version and if you would like to play the game in the original version (English) you will have to import the game.
Some games don't even get a European release they only get a US release.

lol at Europeons and I completely agree with you
people keep talking about globalization and still some countries get preferential treatment

[Sengoku no Maou]

Autolycus wrote...
you see my point now?

I saw your point from the beginning. I don't agree with it as I've said before, "It's just a game."

[ByakuShiki]

TwistedComplex wrote...

Because america is number 1

USA USA USA USA!!!

Love give it a few decades and it won't be the case anymore

[terrordactyl1]

Here in the UK, if you buy a game online from somewhere like Shopto for example, it turns up on the wednesday before release anyway. Just seems to be the high street retailers that stick to friday like it's some sort of holy day.

Problem is, (as happened with Mass Effect 2), I couldn't activate the DLC code until midday friday. Very annoying.

Modifié par terrordactyl1, 25 février 2011 - 02:52 .

[Finis Valorum]

With EA's American Excellence complex I'm willing to bet the European servers will be set to unlock the game at noon PST just so we can wait a few more hours on the 11th.

Modifié par Finis Valorum, 25 février 2011 - 02:53 .

[TwistedComplex]

ByakuShiki wrote...

TwistedComplex wrote...

Because america is number 1

USA USA USA USA!!!

Love give it a few decades and it won't be the case anymore

Then it would be the united states of earth

U.S.E   U.S.E   U.S.E   U.S.E!!!

[termokanden]

TwistedComplex wrote...

Then it would be the united states of earth

U.S.E   U.S.E   U.S.E   U.S.E!!!

I doubt that very much

[ByakuShiki]

TwistedComplex wrote...

ByakuShiki wrote...

TwistedComplex wrote...

Because america is number 1

USA USA USA USA!!!

Love give it a few decades and it won't be the case anymore

Then it would be the united states of earth

U.S.E   U.S.E   U.S.E   U.S.E!!!

I was more thinking along the lines of P.R.E Popular Republic of Earth