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Is this Isabela the same from the first game?


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Yeah, I love the new look. I wonder what our Wardens would look under the redesign of the look of the game and characters.

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meeho wrote...

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meeho wrote...

they should have just made her a new character.


I think they did exactly that :) 

no, they're pretending its the same isabella we met in the first game.


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meeho wrote...
It's like making the Witcher Geralt a black guy and pretending he's the same guy, and then saying it's just some art direction change.


No, it's like changing NPC 2342 into a black guy and pretending he is still NPC 2342. ;)

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RPGamer13 wrote...

Yeah, I love the new look. I wonder what our Wardens would look under the redesign of the look of the game and characters.

The warden is a custom character. So either you have to make him or her new for future DAs or they import face information from DA:O and screw up badly. So I guess the first thing is going to happen. If anything.

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AlexXIV wrote...

RPGamer13 wrote...

Yeah, I love the new look. I wonder what our Wardens would look under the redesign of the look of the game and characters.

The warden is a custom character. So either you have to make him or her new for future DAs or they import face information from DA:O and screw up badly. So I guess the first thing is going to happen. If anything.


Or they can put an helmet/hood on his/her head.

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AlexXIV wrote...

RPGamer13 wrote...

Yeah, I love the new look. I wonder what our Wardens would look under the redesign of the look of the game and characters.

The warden is a custom character. So either you have to make him or her new for future DAs or they import face information from DA:O and screw up badly. So I guess the first thing is going to happen. If anything.


Which is also why the liklihood of our Warden in the first game is going to make a come back for DA3 very slim to none.  Honestly, Im not that sad about it.  I was at first for a nano-second, then I just shrugged and said "maybe Ill like Hawke better'.  And sure enough, so far I do like Hawke better lol.

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Yes - but she has turned into a three-headed beaest :P:

Nah, just kidding. I have no problems with it.

RPGamer13 wrote...

Yeah, I love the new look. I wonder
what our Wardens would look under the redesign of the look of the game
and characters.

If we take DA:O Isabella -> DA][ Isabella as an inpulse response for a conversion between the two games - we won't recongnize our warden.

Modifié par Gisle Aune, 25 février 2011 - 07:20 .


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Duncan Anderson wrote...

Wait you thought origins Isabala was 50+.

What resolution was this at?


She looked really really old. Her skin and everything all wrinkly. Compared to what she is now.

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Aradace wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

RPGamer13 wrote...

Yeah, I love the new look. I wonder what our Wardens would look under the redesign of the look of the game and characters.

The warden is a custom character. So either you have to make him or her new for future DAs or they import face information from DA:O and screw up badly. So I guess the first thing is going to happen. If anything.


Which is also why the liklihood of our Warden in the first game is going to make a come back for DA3 very slim to none.  Honestly, Im not that sad about it.  I was at first for a nano-second, then I just shrugged and said "maybe Ill like Hawke better'.  And sure enough, so far I do like Hawke better lol.



Well, they could hide or change his/her face with some plot surgery. It has been done before. Keeping only the race/gender or importing some actual face values (generic structure, not affected by mods). But meh...I dont see it happening.

Elenaxrose wrote...

She looked really really old. Her skin and everything all wrinkly. Compared to what she is now.


Botox!

Modifié par bloodreaperfx, 25 février 2011 - 07:21 .


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Aradace wrote...

meeho wrote...

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meeho wrote...

they should have just made her a new character.


I think they did exactly that :) 

no, they're pretending its the same isabella we met in the first game.


Boohoo!!! lol...Get over it or dont buy the game Posted Image


That's your "argument"? You've just voided any criticism on the game you'll ever have.

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bloodreaperfx wrote...

Aradace wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

RPGamer13 wrote...

Yeah, I love the new look. I wonder what our Wardens would look under the redesign of the look of the game and characters.

The warden is a custom character. So either you have to make him or her new for future DAs or they import face information from DA:O and screw up badly. So I guess the first thing is going to happen. If anything.


Which is also why the liklihood of our Warden in the first game is going to make a come back for DA3 very slim to none.  Honestly, Im not that sad about it.  I was at first for a nano-second, then I just shrugged and said "maybe Ill like Hawke better'.  And sure enough, so far I do like Hawke better lol.



Well, they could hide or change his/her face with some plot surgery. It has been done before. Keeping only the race/gender or importing some actual face values (generic structure, not affected by mods). But meh...I dont see it happening.


That's what I thought at first too, ala ME2 at the beginning when you're on the SR1 as the Collector attack starts.  You see Shep put on his/her helm and seal it, but the lighting/angle was done where you couldnt see his/her face.  But given the fact that DA2 has shifted entirely to a "new" protagonist all together (IMO isnt a bad thing either.) it really does decrease the liklihood of the Warden's return in DA3.  Another reason also being that now they've decided to use a voiced main character, they'd have to give one to our Warden as well in DA3.  Because let's be honest with ourselves, they are NOT going to go back to the voiceless main character for DA3 lol.

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Gerudan wrote...

meeho wrote...
It's like making the Witcher Geralt a black guy and pretending he's the same guy, and then saying it's just some art direction change.


No, it's like changing NPC 2342 into a black guy and pretending he is still NPC 2342. ;)


Yeah, companions are just as significant as any random npc. Great logic.

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[quote]meeho wrote...

Boohoo!!! lol...Get over it or dont buy the game Posted Image[/quote]

That's your "argument"? You've just voided any criticism on the game you'll ever have.

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*Sigh*, If you bothered to read a few pages back. There ARE arguments, good ones too, the fact that you still complain about it nets you 0 criticism points as well.

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meeho wrote...

Aradace wrote...

meeho wrote...

Drowsy0106 wrote...

meeho wrote...

they should have just made her a new character.


I think they did exactly that :) 

no, they're pretending its the same isabella we met in the first game.


Boohoo!!! lol...Get over it or dont buy the game Posted Image


That's your "argument"? You've just voided any criticism on the game you'll ever have.


Nope, just sick of you banana riders pissing and moaning over something so minor lol.

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bikeracer4487 wrote...


Isabela in Dragon Age: Origins:

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Isabela in Dragon Age II:

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I mean, these are not even REMOTELY similar...I'm just wondering, IS there a real reason for the drastic change in appearance or did the designers basically just decide to create her from scratch when it was decided to make her a party member?


1st picture she lookslike Jennifer Garner ( Ben Afflecks wife ) 2nd picture ummmm i dunno

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meeho wrote...

Drowsy0106 wrote...

meeho wrote...

they should have just made her a new character.


I think they did exactly that :) 

no, they're pretending its the same isabella we met in the first game.


Annoying! <_< 
I mean Anders looks the same!
But Fenris is actually revamped Zevran with a new name.

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Stanley Woo wrote...

bikeracer4487 wrote...
I mean, these are not even REMOTELY similar...I'm just wondering, IS there a real reason for the drastic change in appearance or did the designers basically just decide to create her from scratch when it was decided to make her a party member?

It's almost like we changed the art style and redesigned the look and feel of the game or something... ;)


Oh....heh...right...

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bikeracer4487 wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

bikeracer4487 wrote...
I mean, these are not even REMOTELY similar...I'm just wondering, IS there a real reason for the drastic change in appearance or did the designers basically just decide to create her from scratch when it was decided to make her a party member?

It's almost like we changed the art style and redesigned the look and feel of the game or something... ;)


Oh....heh...right...


When Woo stated that, it should have ended ALL discussion on the topic lol....Seriously.

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"Her look wasn't really changed, the new look is just how the Dwarf narrator describes how she looks."



There, even easier.

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meeho wrote...

Drowsy0106 wrote...

meeho wrote...

they should have just made her a new character.


I think they did exactly that :) 

no, they're pretending its the same isabella we met in the first game.



It has already been said before. Isabella on DA:O was a minor character. They didnt bother to make a new model for her, but just use generic NPC presets. Thats why she looks very similar to some other characters. She is still Riviani though. Now compare it to Duncan, WHO IS ALSO RIVIANI. Duncan has dark skin! See the math here? Actually in DA:O Isabella should have been dark too, so now in DAII she looks more like what she should have been.

Minus perhaps her breast size but that is a different topic for different thread... :D

Modifié par MaaZeus, 25 février 2011 - 07:32 .


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Aradace wrote...

meeho wrote...

Aradace wrote...

meeho wrote...

Drowsy0106 wrote...

meeho wrote...

they should have just made her a new character.


I think they did exactly that :) 

no, they're pretending its the same isabella we met in the first game.


Boohoo!!! lol...Get over it or dont buy the game Posted Image


That's your "argument"? You've just voided any criticism on the game you'll ever have.


Nope, just sick of you banana riders pissing and moaning over something so minor lol.


it's not insignificant, moron

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meeho wrote...

Aradace wrote...

meeho wrote...

Aradace wrote...

meeho wrote...

Drowsy0106 wrote...

meeho wrote...

they should have just made her a new character.


I think they did exactly that :) 

no, they're pretending its the same isabella we met in the first game.


Boohoo!!! lol...Get over it or dont buy the game Posted Image


That's your "argument"? You've just voided any criticism on the game you'll ever have.


Nope, just sick of you banana riders pissing and moaning over something so minor lol.


it's not insignificant, moron


Actually, it really is.  And it really IS as simple as "Accept what they did and get over it." or "Be petty and dont play the game based on how an NPC from the first game's model was remade."
I dont see you *****ing about how Flemeth's model was remade.

Modifié par Aradace, 25 février 2011 - 07:34 .


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meeho wrote...

it's not insignificant, moron


No need for name calling. Let's put the focus back on things that matter, like her chest and.. her chest. 

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meeho wrote...

it's not insignificant, moron


Wow, nerdrage inc. Nice language skills right there Timmy.

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Modifié par Stanley Woo, 25 février 2011 - 08:29 .


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Oh man...Aradace and meeho are so close to getting this topic locked...though honestly Woo totally answered the question of why Isabela looks different in the process of pointing out what an idiot I am...