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[Zulu_DFA]

This is entirely hypothetical, but since it's going to be quite a while till the "Arrival" DLC finally arrives, no harm in speculation. So here goes...

IF

In the Battle for "Object Rho" the Virmire Survivor (Ashley/Kaidan) is going to die, unless you sacrifice one or several of the ME2 companions... Like, 1-2 per each of the "5 waves". How many of them will you be willing to sacrifice?

POLL

Also, will it matter if there are some unnamed civillians or Alliance marines involved along with the VS?

If there are only unnamed red shirts in question and no VS, will you be willing to sacrifice companions for them?

Will you make a run for the "Last Stand" trophy, only to replay it later for canon and not hold the line, sacrificing whatever there is (VS only / VS + red shirts / red shirts only) and import all ME2 squadmates alive to ME3?

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 26 février 2011 - 06:09 .

[Telemachus78]

12 is there any other Marine that can take my Shep's place is either Ash or Kaidan.

[A.J. Ross]

I'd roll over in my grave if Ashley or Kaiden took over my squad.

[Zulu_DFA]

Saphra Deden wrote...

I went with 0, but I'm assuming this is merely a choice of who do I like more. I like all of them. What matters to me is the mission, not so much the people. I'll sacrifice whoever or whatever is necessary to attain the objective.

This is, of course, assuming the primary objective is secured, and the only question remains who gets evac'd and who gets to make the "ultimate sacrifice".

[gogman25]

I'll sacrifice Miranda, Jacob, and Jack...maybe Kaiden, maybe Thane

And if it's just one instead of 5 you ask? We still sacrifice 5.

[Xilizhra]

I won't actively trade one person's life for someone else's, much less many lives for one.

[Estelindis]

I don't think that how much someone is worth to you should really be measured in terms of who you'd sacrifice to save them. Kaidan's my favourite squadmate, but that doesn't mean I'd want others to die so he could live. If it came down to it, I'd choose him over pretty much anyone, but not over multiple people. It just wouldn't seem fair. I'm pretty sure that, as a character, he wouldn't want it either. Say what you will for Ash and Kai, but both were willing to sacrifice themselves to save others. They never put themselves first.

[Slayer299]

I have no problems dumping some of the dead weight from my squad for the VS...

[idontwannarun]

Could never trust VS again, ragequitting a relationship like that...

So VS dies!

[Zulu_DFA]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

This is, of course, assuming the primary objective is secured, and the only question remains who gets evac'd and who gets to make the "ultimate sacrifice".

All things being equal then? The VS gets to stay behind because I'm not gonna ask one of my own people to do it. That would just be bad for morale. If someone volunteers I'll let them stay, but otherwise my priority is to my own team, naturally.

The VS used to be your comrade-in-arms, while your present crew are mercs, at the end of the day...

[gogman25]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Zulu_DFA wrote...

This is, of course, assuming the primary objective is secured, and the only question remains who gets evac'd and who gets to make the "ultimate sacrifice".

All things being equal then? The VS gets to stay behind because I'm not gonna ask one of my own people to do it. That would just be bad for morale. If someone volunteers I'll let them stay, but otherwise my priority is to my own team, naturally.

The VS used to be your comrade-in-arms, while your present crew are mercs, at the end of the day...

Except for:

Wrex
Tali
Samara
Garrus
Legion
Chakwas
Joker
Mordin

[Gentleman Moogle]

I'd take issue with the "Comrade/Mercenary" statement, I think. That may have been true at the beginning of the game, but by the end of it, there isn't a single mercenary left on your squad. They're all willing to follow you into hell and back, simply because you asked them to. That's not mercenary behavior.



I'ma be honest, I never really glommed onto either of the VS back in ME1. They both seemed kinda bland compared to the other crew members. I'd rather stick with my new crew than sacrifice any of them to get VS back.



And yes, that includes Jacob. I kinda like the dude.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Zulu, you have to take into consideration that there are people who will play Arrival with only two surviving squadmates.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 25 février 2011 - 04:53 .

[Telemachus78]

A.J. Ross wrote...

I'd roll over in my grave if Ashley or Kaiden took over my squad.

Who would you rather take over the squad? Miranda? Jacob? Because they would put TIM in power after the attack on Earth. And everyother squadmate would help their home worlds before saving Earth. And if you think I am wrong esplain it to me. Ash or Kaidan would risk it all to save Earth.

[Zulu_DFA]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Maybe Jacob will volunteer?

It'll be difficult to out-volunteer the VS...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Zulu, you have to take into consideration that there are people who will play Arrival with only two surviving squadmates.

That would only mean that such people won't be able to sacrifice more than two squadmates for the VS, and if the "plot price" is set higher by the game designer, then the VS is as good as dead already. Kinda "consequences".

[jeweledleah]

I know that I'd rather sacrifice my cannon Shepard before letting her lose Kaidan again (same goes for my loyal to Ash maleshep). Mission is important, survival of the galaxy is important, but living is hollow when the one you love is gone and you could have prevented it. If VS has to do, my loyal Shepards would pretty much turn into suicidal maniacs who will end up jeopardizing more lives then saving them.



that said, my Shepard hopefully not being a moron, would figure out a plan of action that would allow him/her to come out of the situation with minimum/no casualties. As for real life equivalent - if DLC will require the scenario as you described - bioware is not getting a penny from me for it. I've said it before and I will say it again, arbitrary scripted "nothing you can do to prevent it" deaths of core characters is something that I really dislike in my games. Virmire was bad enough.

[Chignon]

Estelindis wrote...

I don't think that how much someone is worth to you should really be measured in terms of who you'd sacrifice to save them. Kaidan's my favourite squadmate, but that doesn't mean I'd want others to die so he could live. If it came down to it, I'd choose him over pretty much anyone, but not over multiple people. It just wouldn't seem fair. I'm pretty sure that, as a character, he wouldn't want it either. Say what you will for Ash and Kai, but both were willing to sacrifice themselves to save others. They never put themselves first.

Great post, but mostly this.

[Annihilator27]

0, Im sorry Kaiden. I would like to save everyone though. It'll be Jack whose going to save him If I change my mind.

Modifié par annihilator27, 25 février 2011 - 05:09 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

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Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Zulu, you have to take into consideration that there are people who will play Arrival with only two surviving squadmates.

That would only mean that such people won't be able to sacrifice more than two squadmates for the VS, and if the "plot price" is set higher by the game designer, then the VS is as good as dead already. Kinda "consequences".

Whoa! Never thought of it that way. Now THAT's a consequence!

[DarthSliver]

I will sacrifice Zaeed, his old and problay will leave to go after that one person. I had to save the workers from the fire first, i couldnt let them burn for revenge. But i still managed to get Zaeed to stay in the squad.

[NamiraWilhelm]

ALOT



my favourite character, my cannon Sheps sole romance. I would probably sacrifice any ME2 squaddies for the VS, no contest. If i got to pick specifically then its Jacob, Liara, Zaeed and or Samara.