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[blothulfur]

I saw this as really reinforcing my outcast Hawke character, he's trying to get the useless gits to shake their stumps before they all get tainted and worse but all they can do is sit around and mope while the darkspawn catch up and berate the hated son for speaking sense.

Guess who's getting sold to the templars in kirkwall dear family.

[andar91]

DinoSteve wrote...

andar91 wrote...

I never said it really was your fault. But your mother isn't thinking logically at that point; her son/daughter just died and she's stressed out anyway about the darkspawn and Lothering. She lashes out because she's upset.

but hawke just lost a brother or sister too and is likey  tired from defending their mother who just stands there with the moron from the chantry while you do all the work

Again, she's not in her right mind.  She's caught up in her grief-as evidenced by her whole, "wake up, the battle's over" line.  She's in denial, then she gets angry.  Which actually follows the standard grief progression for most people.

[LogosDiablo]

Eumerin wrote...

Lacan2 wrote...

It's too bad the ogre didn't take care of mama Hawke in addition. She's annoying.

Plot armor.  She's probably got to live long enough to introduce you to the family in Kirkwall.  She can have a heart attack immediately afterwards.  Otherwise...


"Who are you?"
"I'm your long-lost neice Bethany!"
"Never heard of you.  Go away!"

She's a quest giver later. Can't die now, unfortunately. She's a b----.

[PinkShoes]

omg i know right! whenever she says that im like b!tch he is his own person he ran off because he was protecting YOU so its YOUR fault ¬.¬

[ErichHartmann]

I really don't care if Carver's death is "my fault". I can't stand his surly attitude in the demo.

Modifié par ErichHartmann, 25 février 2011 - 08:36 .

[AlexXIV]

andar91 wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

andar91 wrote...

I never said it really was your fault. But your mother isn't thinking logically at that point; her son/daughter just died and she's stressed out anyway about the darkspawn and Lothering. She lashes out because she's upset.

but hawke just lost a brother or sister too and is likey  tired from defending their mother who just stands there with the moron from the chantry while you do all the work

Again, she's not in her right mind.  She's caught up in her grief-as evidenced by her whole, "wake up, the battle's over" line.  She's in denial, then she gets angry.  Which actually follows the standard grief progression for most people.

Well the point is she is the only one who doesn't know how to hold a weapon and the only one to be useless and the only one to cast blame. If I think for example about mom Cousland, I would prefer her 10 times over mom Hawke.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 25 février 2011 - 08:36 .

[Lord Gremlin]

ReallyRue wrote...

Duncan Anderson wrote...

Some of you should never talk to a griving person, you have all the tack and emotional intelegance of an angry walrus.

Hawke was also grieving, not to mention trying to get his/her whole family to safety. Hearing something like that might be enough to just knock the fight out of some people, especially because she never retracts the statement.

I just got the impression that out of her two apostate daughters mom Hawke loved Bethany more. And my Hawke won't forget that. One day a sacrifice would be needed and mom will do. That'll teach her.
"insert evil maniacal lauchter, witch Bastinda style"

[LadyJaneGrey]

Mother says: "How could you let him charge off like that..."
Mother thinks: "...when you could have thrown yourself in the way and died; never liked you anyway.":whistle:

Just kidding.  As has been said before, people say stupid things while in grief.

[Dr. wonderful]

Lord Gremlin wrote...


It was Bethany who died on me. Carver lived on...

Duncan Anderson wrote...

Some of you should never talk to a griving person, you have all the tack and emotional intelegance of an angry walrus.

I didn't get my fish this morning.

My bucket had  hole in it.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

AlexXIV wrote...

andar91 wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

andar91 wrote...

I
never said it really was your fault. But your mother isn't thinking
logically at that point; her son/daughter just died and she's stressed
out anyway about the darkspawn and Lothering. She lashes out because
she's upset.

but hawke just lost a brother or sister too and
is likey  tired from defending their mother who just stands there with
the moron from the chantry while you do all the work

../images/spacer.gif../images/spacer.gifAgain,
she's not in her right mind.  She's caught up in her grief-as evidenced
by her whole, "wake up, the battle's over" line.  She's in denial, then
she gets angry.  Which actually follows the standard grief progression
for most people.

Well the point is she is the only one
who doesn't know how to hold a weapon and the only one to be useless and
the only one to cast blame. If I think for example about mom Cousland, I
would prefer her 10 times over mom Hawke.

Indeed she picked up a bow and jumped right in the fight and stayed behind to cover the warden while he escapes

Modifié par DinoSteve, 25 février 2011 - 08:42 .

[LogosDiablo]

Nimpe wrote...

Wow, just noticed that everyone addressed carver as the dying sibling. Guess not many people played mages in the demo.

I played all three, but Carver's a tool, so I prefer his death. I will find it difficult to play a mage in the full game, because Bethany will be dead. I might someone who's pissed at the world because he's lost the only person he really cared for...that might be fun.

[HopHazzard]

andar91 wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

andar91 wrote...

I never said it really was your fault. But your mother isn't thinking logically at that point; her son/daughter just died and she's stressed out anyway about the darkspawn and Lothering. She lashes out because she's upset.

but hawke just lost a brother or sister too and is likey  tired from defending their mother who just stands there with the moron from the chantry while you do all the work

Again, she's not in her right mind.  She's caught up in her grief-as evidenced by her whole, "wake up, the battle's over" line.  She's in denial, then she gets angry.  Which actually follows the standard grief progression for most people.

I lol'd at the 'wake up, the battle's over' line. Yeah, Carver. That's what you did after every other battle when you got your butt kicked by darkspawn.

Seriously though. She's not in her right mind and can't be expected to act rationally. I work at a nursing home. People say some crazy things when people die.

[AlexXIV]

HopHazzard wrote...

andar91 wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

andar91 wrote...

I never said it really was your fault. But your mother isn't thinking logically at that point; her son/daughter just died and she's stressed out anyway about the darkspawn and Lothering. She lashes out because she's upset.

but hawke just lost a brother or sister too and is likey  tired from defending their mother who just stands there with the moron from the chantry while you do all the work

Again, she's not in her right mind.  She's caught up in her grief-as evidenced by her whole, "wake up, the battle's over" line.  She's in denial, then she gets angry.  Which actually follows the standard grief progression for most people.

I lol'd at the 'wake up, the battle's over' line. Yeah, Carver. That's what you did after every other battle when you got your butt kicked by darkspawn.

Seriously though. She's not in her right mind and can't be expected to act rationally. I work at a nursing home. People say some crazy things when people die.

And, do they apologize later?

[LogosDiablo]

jhawke wrote...

I do wonder if this will affect how Mama Hawke treats Hawke throughout the rest of the story.

Does she remain bitter and continue blaming Hawke for the death of Bethany/Carver?

Does she forgive Hawke?

Oh my god, if she tries to tell me that she forgives me I will jack her in the face. Take that how you will.

[CroGamer002]

Yeah, what a b*tch.

[HopHazzard]

AlexXIV wrote...

HopHazzard wrote...

andar91 wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

andar91 wrote...

I never said it really was your fault. But your mother isn't thinking logically at that point; her son/daughter just died and she's stressed out anyway about the darkspawn and Lothering. She lashes out because she's upset.

but hawke just lost a brother or sister too and is likey  tired from defending their mother who just stands there with the moron from the chantry while you do all the work

Again, she's not in her right mind.  She's caught up in her grief-as evidenced by her whole, "wake up, the battle's over" line.  She's in denial, then she gets angry.  Which actually follows the standard grief progression for most people.

I lol'd at the 'wake up, the battle's over' line. Yeah, Carver. That's what you did after every other battle when you got your butt kicked by darkspawn.

Seriously though. She's not in her right mind and can't be expected to act rationally. I work at a nursing home. People say some crazy things when people die.

And, do they apologize later?

Very rarely. But sometimes they send fruit.

[Merced652]

You're gonna hurt gaider's feelings.

[Astoria]

You'd think coming from a family of apostates and melee fighters Mama Hawke would know how to wield a sword or bow, at the very least. But no, she cowers in the background and lets her child sacrifice themselves to save her skin. I miss Eleanor Cousland, now there was a real mother.

[AlexXIV]

HopHazzard wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

HopHazzard wrote...

andar91 wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

andar91 wrote...

I never said it really was your fault. But your mother isn't thinking logically at that point; her son/daughter just died and she's stressed out anyway about the darkspawn and Lothering. She lashes out because she's upset.

but hawke just lost a brother or sister too and is likey  tired from defending their mother who just stands there with the moron from the chantry while you do all the work

Again, she's not in her right mind.  She's caught up in her grief-as evidenced by her whole, "wake up, the battle's over" line.  She's in denial, then she gets angry.  Which actually follows the standard grief progression for most people.

I lol'd at the 'wake up, the battle's over' line. Yeah, Carver. That's what you did after every other battle when you got your butt kicked by darkspawn.

Seriously though. She's not in her right mind and can't be expected to act rationally. I work at a nursing home. People say some crazy things when people die.

And, do they apologize later?

Very rarely. But sometimes they send fruit.

But they should, or not? I mean to be human is one thing, to be a human a-hole another.

[Lord Gremlin]

PurebredCorn wrote...

Perhaps there's a lot more to Momma Hawke's blame than we're aware of as yet.

You've been ADOPTED!!! Hawke is actually the child of Maker himself, conceived via transcendent insemination of now long-dead Orlesian empress!
Oh wait, forgot to put my tinfoil hat on. All better now.

[efrgfhnm_]

I just wanna say that roflstomp is genius haha

And come on, she's trying to blame someone in her grief, surely it should be herself? She slowed them down, she didn't fight and he died protecting her

She better not live in my Hawke's house, if I ever have to see her it should just be so i can insult her

[AlexXIV]

Merced652 wrote...

You're gonna hurt gaider's feelings.

Why? He could have made her like that on purpose.

Maybe she just isn't the nicest person in the world.

[Lorianno]

I'm feverishly holding onto the hope that on the storm plagued voyage to kirkwall, mama hawke falls into the ocean. Or is gang raped by a gaggle of pirate geese until she dies from dysentery.

Too much?

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Lorianno wrote...

I'm feverishly holding onto the hope that on the storm plagued voyage to kirkwall, mama hawke falls into the ocean. Or is gang raped by a gaggle of pirate geese until she dies from dysentery.
Too much?

I know it sucks to be blamed for that morons death but do you need do go that far?