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[HopHazzard]

@AlexXIV There are times I would've appreciated an apology. But I accept that I'm not really the focus of their concern. This situation is different of course. If my mother blamed me for my brother's death after he tried to defend her from an ogre, I would eventually like an apology. I'm just saying I understand that after the initial shock of losing a loved one, it's hard to be rational. If she continues to hold it against me for the whole game I'll be peeved, otherwise I'm willing to let it slide.

Modifié par HopHazzard, 25 février 2011 - 08:51 .

[Lord Gremlin]

DinoSteve wrote...

Lorianno wrote...

I'm feverishly holding onto the hope that on the storm plagued voyage to kirkwall, mama hawke falls into the ocean. Or is gang raped by a gaggle of pirate geese until she dies from dysentery.
Too much?

I know it sucks to be blamed for that morons death but do you need do go that far?

I'd just sacrifice her to get +2 constitution for example. Sacrificing procedure may or may not include enchanted flesh-eating nug zombies.

Actually, it must include them. Nug zombies are awesome - like ninja pirates (hello Isabella).

[bloodreaperfx]

Lorianno wrote...

I'm feverishly holding onto the hope that on the storm plagued voyage to kirkwall, mama hawke falls into the ocean. Or is gang raped by a gaggle of pirate geese until she dies from dysentery.
Too much?

I have a very....lucid imagination....needless to say, the images were full of win.

Modifié par bloodreaperfx, 25 février 2011 - 08:49 .

[Zkyire]

Mama Hawke: CARVER! NOOO! How could you let him run off like that?!
PlayerHawke: You mad?

[efrgfhnm_]

Lorianno wrote...

I'm feverishly holding onto the hope that on the storm plagued voyage to kirkwall, mama hawke falls into the ocean. Or is gang raped by a gaggle of pirate geese until she dies from dysentery.
Too much?

Way way way too much
Too much to the extent of being slightly creepy......

[Merced652]

IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

Mama Hawke: CARVER! NOOO! How could you let him run off like that?!
PlayerHawke: You mad?

ROFL

[Veex]

I've heard people say stupid remarks like that without having lost a child. I don't think there is a prerequisite for Mama Hawke to be a perfect character, is there? You know what I think would have been a much worse scenario?



MamaHawke: Don't worry about your brother son, we have to push on.

Wesley: I could say a few words.

MamaHawke: Nonsense! I'll grieve later because my emotions are a voluntary response and I never act irrationally. Press on!

[Zkyire]

Veex wrote...

I've heard people say stupid remarks like that without having lost a child. I don't think there is a prerequisite for Mama Hawke to be a perfect character, is there? You know what I think would have been a much worse scenario?

MamaHawke: Don't worry about your brother son, we have to push on.
Wesley: I could say a few words.
MamaHawke: Nonsense! I'll grieve later because my emotions are a voluntary response and I never act irrationally. Press on!

And yet Bethany doesn't. Hawke doesn't.

Hawke or Bethany could have just as easily said "Mother, why did you let him run towards the Ogre?!" But they kept themselves composed.

Losing a brother is no easier than losing a son.

Modifié par IEatWhatIPoo, 25 février 2011 - 09:00 .

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

I never said she couldn't be upset, but its not hawkes fault. Besides caver was a ass not see the relif in Bethnay's and hawkes faces when he died

Modifié par DinoSteve, 25 février 2011 - 08:59 .

[bloodreaperfx]

Veex wrote...

I've heard people say stupid remarks like that without having lost a child. I don't think there is a prerequisite for Mama Hawke to be a perfect character, is there? You know what I think would have been a much worse scenario?

MamaHawke: Don't worry about your brother son, we have to push on.
Wesley: I could say a few words.
MamaHawke: Nonsense! I'll grieve later because my emotions are a voluntary response and I never act irrationally. Press on!

There is a middle-ground betwen being a emotive psycho and stone.

Something along the lines:

MamaHawke: Oh, gods, Carver..bla..bla...we must move on, or his sacrifice will be meaningless.

Is a pretty sensible reaction. Or at least she should headbutt herself for letting him getting killed. But the whole "OMG ITS YOUR FAULT!!" is....

[Cra5y Pineapple]

 Momma Hawke: It's all your fault!
Hawke: Muuuum! I didn't even get the Option!
Momma Hawke: That's not an excuse!
Hawke: Fine, I'm leaving. And by the way, I wouldn't have chose that option!

[MKDAWUSS]

Zigzaggy wrote...

It is your fault...you should have left earlier..why was you hanging around you indecisive fool.

Some champion you turned out to be.

Well, Hawke wanted to make sure her hair was presentable, then she remembered she needed to put on her makeup, then she had to decide what pair of shoes she wanted to wear...

Modifié par MKDAWUSS, 25 février 2011 - 09:06 .

[Lorianno]

bloodreaperfx wrote...

Lorianno wrote...

I'm feverishly holding onto the hope that on the storm plagued voyage to kirkwall, mama hawke falls into the ocean. Or is gang raped by a gaggle of pirate geese until she dies from dysentery.
Too much?

I have a very....lucid imagination....needless to say, the images were full of win.

Glad to have a fan

Also, all trolling aside. Her reaction against Hawke was a little ridiculous. I would expect her to seek comfort from her other children, rather than seek to place blame on them. But it's not as though you actually connect with these characters given how early they're introduced and killed off, so I don't see what the real complaint here is beyond a momentary lapse in Gaider's usually fantastic writing.

Modifié par Lorianno, 25 février 2011 - 09:07 .

[Spacelion]

I am already beginning to detest this irrational, Levi-Dryden incarnate of a mother. I want Elanor back!

[Invalidcode]

Your brother died in a very horrible way right in front of your mother, you expect her to be rational while she is holding his warm corpse?

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Lorianno wrote...

bloodreaperfx wrote...

Lorianno wrote...

I'm feverishly holding onto the hope that on the storm plagued voyage to kirkwall, mama hawke falls into the ocean. Or is gang raped by a gaggle of pirate geese until she dies from dysentery.
Too much?

I have a very....lucid imagination....needless to say, the images were full of win.

Glad to have a fan

Also, all trolling aside. Her reaction against Hawke was a little ridiculous. I would expect her to seek comfort from her other children, rather than seek to place blame on them. But it's not as though you actually connect with these characters given how early they're introduced and killed off, so I don't see what the real complaint here is beyond a momentary lapse in Gaider's usually fantastic writing.

pfft no complaint really I was just poking some fun at the game but other people think its seroius business

[Spacelion]

Invalidcode wrote...

Your brother died in a very horrible way right in front of your mother, you expect her to be rational while she is holding his warm corpse?

Absolutely!

[Veex]

bloodreaperfx wrote...

There is a middle-ground betwen being a emotive psycho and stone.

Which she hits. It isn't like she stomps her feet, continues to blame Hawke, and refuses to leave her son there and gets them all killed in the process. Emotive psycho is as much an exaggeration as stone is. People don't always make rational decisions under stress, considerably more those who aren't trained in the military (in Hawke's case) or an apostate mage used to combat (in Bethany's case).

[bloodreaperfx]

Invalidcode wrote...

Your brother died in a very horrible way right in front of your mother, you expect her to be rational while she is holding his warm corpse?

What if MainHawke suddenly snaps out of his rational way of thinking and goes "NO U!" and slaps her. Outrageous huh?

[Lethys1]

It's really weird that she says to Carver after he died, "I'll never forget you."  Obviously she won't forget him, he's her son.  It felt like it was faked and forced of her to say that, as though it were daytime soap quality.  She probably should've just kept crying like a normal human.

[Zkyire]

Invalidcode wrote...

Your brother died in a very horrible way right in front of your mother, you expect her to be rational while she is holding his warm corpse?

You don't see Hawke and Bethany blaming their mother for Carver's death.

So yes, while I don't expect MamaHawke to be "Whatevs let's just go" - I do not condone her blaming her own child for the death of her other child, when it was MamaHawke herself who was physically closest to Carver to physically stop him.

No child needs his/her mother blaming them for the death of their brother.

[Spacelion]

bloodreaperfx wrote...

Invalidcode wrote...

Your brother died in a very horrible way right in front of your mother, you expect her to be rational while she is holding his warm corpse?

What if MainHawke suddenly snaps out of his rational way of thinking and goes "NO U!" and slaps her. Outrageous huh?

I'm more partial to a 'U mad?' response myself, complete with the cap hat.

[EighmyLupin]

Carver tried to play hero and Mama Hawke was the reason he tried so both are to "blame" for what happened. When I talked to her the first time I was like "What? I didn't do anything wrong!" but when I thought about it I could totally understand why she blamed Hawke. She can't really blame Carver since he's dead and nobody likes to admit they are to blame, though I think somewhere inside she does blame herself. Its human nature to blame someone when something goes wrong. Lots of couples blame each other when their child dies even though its neithers fault and even though Hawke is her child instead of husband/wife, she picked Hawke because he/she was more or less "the man of the family". In her mind Hawke was suppose to protect them like a parent would and he/she failed and I think she realizes that she failed to and we"ll get to see her blame herself later.

[Merced652]

Spacelion wrote...

bloodreaperfx wrote...

Invalidcode wrote...

Your brother died in a very horrible way right in front of your mother, you expect her to be rational while she is holding his warm corpse?

What if MainHawke suddenly snaps out of his rational way of thinking and goes "NO U!" and slaps her. Outrageous huh?

I'm more partial to a 'U mad?' response myself, complete with the cap hat.

Yea i'm thoroughly disappointed we haven't gotten a truly good pop culture reference to the u mad? phenomenon

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Hawkes song could be bohemian rhapsody after that