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[woods26]

Lumikki wrote...

The Realm online 1996
Meridian59 1996
Ultima Online 1997
Lineage1998
Final Fantasy XI Online 2002

There is alot more...

What is this an answer to?

[Vahe]

Nope, getting uninstalled asap. I only played Dragon Age/Awakening/DLC once.

[Lumikki]

astrallite wrote...

Did you know 1987 came before 1996? Just curious.

You are talking graphical mmorpgs or single player games?

woods26 wrote...

What is this an answer to?

It was answer the history of graphical mmorpgs, but I have feeling now that they where talking single player RPG's.

Maybe little like:

Akalabeth: World of Doom 1979
Wizardy 1981

Modifié par Lumikki, 26 février 2011 - 09:47 .

[mellifera]

I won't, maybe years into the future I will. But I could barely stand to keep playing DAO before DA2 was announced. Not that I hate it, but I've played it so many times it's gotten incredibly boring for me.

[AnotherAD]

Doing my last round of DA:O now till DA2 is released. It is so much better with audio muted and Itunes playing in the background.

[golak]

 Yes and not only for imports, it's more becouse of the nice long gameplay it has and characters I like. It didnt get me hyped as ME2 did, but I'm more in to sci-fi enyway.

[Ryzaki]

Everytime I hear someone say JRPGs aren't RPGs I lol.

[Giltspur]

I don't know.  It depends.  If DA2 or DA3 rewards different DAO playthroughs enough then maybe so.  Now I see no reason to expect that the rewards will be enough to merit another 50-60 hours in a game I've already played a lot of.  But it's always possible.  Jury's still out on how much Bioware will end up doing with character imports in the DA series.  Could be really cool.  Could be just okay.

At any rate, I think if I go back to DAO it would be inspired by DA2 or DA3.  Though I suppose nostalgia is possible as well.  I've started looking into how to get BGII to run on my computer--so you never know.

[Nonoru]

It's unlikely to be honest.

Finishing my two handed warrior run now,and i feel like my character are in slow motion.

[mesmerizedish]

astrallite wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

astrallite wrote...

Okay, so you are saying, 24 years ago, Final Fantasy tacked itself falsely on the RPG definition.

Then provide an example(more would help) other than Ultima hopefully that defined RPG.

Well, RPGs, by most definitions, involve a certain degree of choice when it comes to progressing the story. My experience with Final Fantasy is that you have about as much choice as in Halo.

Then to back up your statement, please provide an example other than Ultima that defines RPG and predates Final Fantasy.

I never played Ultima. That's Sylvius's thing. Though, I'll add that predating Final Fantasy is entirely irrelevant, because Final Fantasy does not fit the definition of RPG in use at the time. Regardless of how Square labeled it, it wasn't an RPG. Dungeons & Dragons, which predates Final Fantasy by over a decade, is an RPG. The only similarity is "XP, LEVEL UP, LOOT." Those are staples of an RPG, yes, but they don't make a game an RPG.

Modifié par ishmaeltheforsaken, 26 février 2011 - 09:47 .

[Maria Caliban]

astrallite wrote...

Then to back up your statement, please provide an example other than Ultima that defines RPG and predates Final Fantasy.

Dungeons and Dragons 1974.

[woods26]

http://en.wikipedia....ying_video_game

http://en.wikipedia....ing_video_games

FF is an RPG. Get over it.

Modifié par woods26, 26 février 2011 - 10:00 .

[Lumikki]

Maria Caliban wrote...

astrallite wrote...

Then to back up your statement, please provide an example other than Ultima that defines RPG and predates Final Fantasy.

Dungeons and Dragons 1974.

History of role-playing 1915 *wink*
History of computer role-playing games

Modifié par Lumikki, 26 février 2011 - 10:01 .

[viking135]

Havent playe DAO for ages and i won`T start again when DA2 is released

[RainbowPenguin]

Of course! I want to see all the different worlds that can be shaped.

Plus I haven't gotten any DLC yet...

[Noviere]

Who knows? I tried to do another playthrough before DA2 comes out, but once I got to Orzammar I lost interest. This would be my 4th time through the game though(not including partial playthroughs).

[Avilia]

I'm burned out on it atm - might play it again in a few months, but not soon I'd say.

[astrobot702]

They are like Star Wars and Star Trek, You can't compare the two they are completely different games that take place in the same universe...lol

[My Avatar is a Lizard]

astrobot702 wrote...

They are like Star Wars and Star Trek, You can't compare the two they are completely different games that take place in the same universe...lol

This sentence makes sense

[theenigma77]

Obviously. Origins is awesomemazing!

[Andraste_Reborn]

I've finished Origins seven times and Awakening five. While I certainly wouldn't rule out playing it again a few years in the future, I've seen most of the content I wanted to see. And a lot of games stacked up in my 'to play' pile while I was spending almost all my gaming time last year playing DA over and over again. I actually hope that DAII is shorter or less compelling on repeat runs so I can play something else occasionally!

Modifié par Andrastee, 26 février 2011 - 10:46 .

[marshalleck]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

I never played Ultima. That's Sylvius's thing. Though, I'll add that predating Final Fantasy is entirely irrelevant, because Final Fantasy does not fit the definition of RPG in use at the time. Regardless of how Square labeled it, it wasn't an RPG. 

Sorry, but that's bull. I was old enough at the time to be able to read video game magazines and whatnot, and it was always referred to as an RPG both in print and colloquial use by gamers. It was also widely well received for having a story (though not as tight or coherent as games of today) as opposed to the rather highly abstracted gameplay/story elements of RPGs that came before it. That doesn't mean it was the first, but it was a significant point in video game RPG history and became highly influential. The Dragon Warrior series was also referred to as RPG, shared many similar mechanics and story features with FF and came out on NES at just about the same time. 

Modifié par marshalleck, 26 février 2011 - 10:54 .

[Vasparian]

I will simply because I want an rpg not an Action rpg. I am not saying DA2 is bad, but If I wanted Zelda I would play zelda.

[Nonoru]

marshalleck wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

I never played Ultima. That's Sylvius's thing. Though, I'll add that predating Final Fantasy is entirely irrelevant, because Final Fantasy does not fit the definition of RPG in use at the time. Regardless of how Square labeled it, it wasn't an RPG. 

That's bull****. I was old enough at the time to be able to read video game magazines and whatnot, and it was always referred to as an RPG both in print and colloquial use by gamers. It was also widely well received for having a story (though not as tight or coherent as games of today) as opposed to the rather highly abstracted gameplay/story elements of games that came before it. That doesn't mean it was the first, but it was a significant point in video game RPG history and became highly influential. 

From wikipedia;

"Final Fantasy takes place in a fantasy world with three large continents. The elemental powers on this world are determined by the state of four orbs, each governing one of the four classical elements: earth, fire, water, and wind.

 Four hundred years prior to the start of the game, the Lefeinish people, who used the Power of Wind to craft airships and a giant space station (called the Floating Castle in the game), watched their country decline as the Wind Orb went dark. Two hundred years later, violent storms sank a massive shrine that served as the center of an ocean-based civilization, and the Water Orb went dark. The Earth Orb and the Fire Orb followed, plaguing the earth with raging wildfires, and devastating the agricultural town of Melmond as the plains and vegetation decayed. Some time later, the sage Lukahn tells of a prophecy that four Light Warriors will come to save the world in a time of darkness."

You call that a story ? o_O

I could have wrote something like that when i was 8 year old.

A role playing game is something where you can interact and make decisions.Final fantasy is exactly the opposite. They are extremely linear(in particular the last ones) and you make no choices besides whom you use in battle and what sidequest you wanna do.

I agree that FF serie brought a lot to videogames but they didn't bring anything linked to rpg.

Modifié par Nonoru, 26 février 2011 - 11:00 .

[marshalleck]

Vasparian wrote...

I will simply because I want an rpg not an Action rpg.

You accidentally your sentence.