The main reason for this request is that lack of friendly fire is immersion-breaking, and not that hardcore's too easy and nightmare too difficult.
In this thread, we also discussed an alternative to this proposal which was to have a friendly fire check-box toggle that would be forced on in Nightmare. This would make FF available to normal difficulty as well, but would likely introduce unreasonable rebalancing issues for the default mode, which is why I am dropping the idea. Here is a FAQ; please read the rest of the thread for details.
FAQ
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1) Q: A new difficulty mode would introduce testing/rebalancing issues for the devs. A: there should be no testing or rebalancing needed if this new mode is simply hardcore with friendly fire turned on. It would be harder than hardcore, but easier than nightmare, by definition, in virtually all contexts.
2) Q: Why don't you just play on nightmare? A: Because traditionally Bioware's nightmare/insanity has many other nasty features that have been too hard for many of us posting here. It requires immersion-breaking min/maxing, and too much reloading makes all the fun disappear.
3) Q: Why do you want friendly fire if you haven't got the skillz for nightmare? A: It's because lack of friendly fire hugely breaks immersion for us. Fire is fire and whether magical or not, it ought not to be able to tell friend from foe. Bombing a tank while he's taunting darkspawn and having him emerge unscathed is on par with having Morrigan sing "you are the wind beneath my wings" with Leliana in camp. Totally inappropriate and immersion breaking.
4) Q: I hate friendly fire. Why would you do this to me? A: The new mode would not affect normal and hardcore modes. It would be a new difficulty level below nightmare.
5) Q: DAO had area spells that had no friendly fire like mass paralysis, just view them all like that in DA2 mmkay? A: It actually made sense in DAO. All "mind" spells had no friendly fire due to the fact that they were sourced from the caster's mind and hence could tell friend from foe. On the other hand any elemental spells had full friendly fire, due to the fact that the element is neutral and cannot tell friend from foe.
6) Q: This will be time consuming to implement. A: We don't know that for sure. If it does require hand editing of every script, I suggest charging FF on elemental and entropy AOE spells only. This should dramatically reduce the editing time required.
7) Q: The game has gone gold? A: Issue it as a patch.
8) Q: Modders will take care of you? A: not at all clear this will be possible.
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Below is my original post:
Bioware, I have read comments that friendly fire is only available in nightmare mode. Is this true?
If so, anyone care to explain the decision? I have never, ever played any of your games with friendly fire off (can't recall Kotor/Jade had friendly fire, but if they did, I had it on).
At the same time I'm not at all comfortable with nightmare/insanity mode on your games. It's just that much more difficult for me that the game becomes a chore and no longer enjoyable for me (others disagree, I know). I just die too much on Nightmare. "Hardcore" typically has been my only setting for all of your games from BG onward.
In DAO, I was right at home on Hardcore but found Nightmare too difficult (until I hit level 15 or so, and then, I admit, I did turn it up to Nightmare as it become too easy). But starting out with Nightmare, I made it to Lothering and then kept on getting killed by the mobs there.
In ME2, Insanity basically kicked my ass at Archangel's mission on Omega.
So, anyone with me here? Friendly fire for all? It should be detached from difficulty level. I simply cannot suspend disbelief enough to cast fireball on my brother and he is unscathed as a result.
Will I have to slog through nightmare just to get that bit of realism? *Groan*, please no, unless Nightmare has been turned down to be the same as Hardcore used to be... which I doubt.
Please, I don't want to keep on having to reload just to get friendly fire. Join me in supporting a non-nightmare friendly fire mode in the first patch.
Is that enough whining for you?
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