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[Sylvianus]

Something bothers me about romances for guys. Please do not think I'm jealous of girls (can be a bit ), but I think they all badass on their side. Their romance seem awfully difficult and interesting. Isabella looks just easier than Merrill.

Now I love this kind of profile, difficult, not at all smooth, exciting and unpredictable as with Morrigan. A character who has his own convictions and tends to contradict you, a character I want to convince, as Ashley in Mass Effect.

This kind of romance or to convince, we think carefully about the answer they will give.

The demo gave me the impression that Isabella was much nicer than I thought. Of course I do not yet know her personality, but I think she will be neutral good, and not enought pragmatic. : s

Yet we have already Merril, who will be the super cute girl, virgin, sweet, clumsy and so on. With her, I know I will always be nice, and it's good. Too predictable.

Where are the bad girls for DA2? I want a girl or boring proud and fierce, as Velanna, for example. On the one hand the cute girl on the other, someone more pragmatic one.

You weigh the system of friendship / rivalry is going to change anything about it ?

Modifié par Sylvianus, 26 février 2011 - 11:19 .

[Clumzor]

I think Isabella is still the "Bad Girl".

[LilyasAvalon]

The first trailer seemed to hint at a possible betrayl by Isabella, so she could be classified as the 'bad girl' so to say.

Anyway, if the girls DO get Sebastian as a romancable, that means Bioware is logically going to release another romancable DLC, probably female, maybe you'll get the bad girl then.

...Also, did you and I meet a different Merril? I clearly remember her being an absolute **** in the Dalish origin.

Modifié par LilyasAvalon, 26 février 2011 - 10:50 .

[Schmoodla]

Maybe Merril can be "bad" too.

[wulfsturm]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

The first trailer seemed to hint at a possible betrayl by Isabella, so she could be classified as the 'bad girl' so to say.

Anyway, if the girls DO get Sebastian as a romancable, that means Bioware is logically going to release another romancable DLC, probably female, maybe you'll get the bad girl then.

Giving their track record for such things, I think it's pretty doubtful he'll be a LI.

[HolyAvenger]

Merrill is a bloodmage so there is plenty of "badness" potential there.

[Covi]

I have a feeling that Merrill is going to be a troublemaker.

[My Avatar is a Lizard]

I'M MACHO MAN RANDY SAVAGE AND I'M HERE TA TELL YOU AVELINE IS THE BAD GIRL YOU NEED



HURRRRRRRRR

[My Avatar is a Lizard]

wulfsturm wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

The first trailer seemed to hint at a possible betrayl by Isabella, so she could be classified as the 'bad girl' so to say.

Anyway, if the girls DO get Sebastian as a romancable, that means Bioware is logically going to release another romancable DLC, probably female, maybe you'll get the bad girl then.

Giving their track record for such things, I think it's pretty doubtful he'll be a LI.

He's a monk,

Celibacy is cool kids

[Sylvianus]

I think Isabella is still the "Bad Girl".

Really ?

It was not me with the impression. She cares about his crew, like a mother to her son.

Me it does not reassure me when she said " they were not commodities, but people ", about slaves.

Seems it not at all pragmatic. She seems to care about the lives of others, and seems to bring more to resolve peacefully the problem with Castillon.

Moreover, it just seems more relaxed than Merril, more salacious.

[Sacred_Fantasy]

Merril is a virgin?



Seriously?

[My Avatar is a Lizard]

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Merril is a virgin?

Seriously?

I know isn't it Awesome:wub:

[lychee26]

Well in DAO, Merrill wasn't that nice. I mean she was sort of bordering arrogant, and quick to get worked up about things.

[borelocin]

Isabella is the "freaky 4 way girl" which may not be exactly the same thing.

At the risk of being branded a Jack fanboi (Full disclosure - I am a Jack fanboi ) that was a well done "bad girl" romance.

Modifié par borelocin, 26 février 2011 - 10:55 .

[wulfsturm]

Sylvianus wrote...

Really ?

It was not me with the impression. She cares about his crew, like a mother to her son.

Me it does not reassure me when she said " they were not commodities, but people ", about slaves.

You can care for people and still be a complete douche bag at the same time.

[Maria Caliban]

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Merril is a virgin?

Seriously?

She's virginal. As in 'sweet and innocent.'

[Nonoru]

Clumzor wrote...

I think Isabella is still the "Bad Girl".

Don't think she is.

[Duncan Anderson]

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Merril is a virgin?

Seriously?

Maybe. Gaider pointed out that just becuse someone used the word  virginal while she was on screen don't mean she was being discribed.

[Clumzor]

Sylvianus wrote...

I think Isabella is still the "Bad Girl".

Really ?

It was not me with the impression. She cares about his crew, like a mother to her son.

Me it does not reassure me when she said " they were not commodities, but people ", about slaves.

Seems it not at all pragmatic. She seems to care about the lives of others, and seems to bring more to resolve peacefully the problem with Castillon.

Moreover, it just seems more relaxed than Merril, more salacious.

A'ight, she's the chaotic good girl.

[SirGladiator]

Yeah, in the very popular DAO mod that I have, Merrill is actually engaged to the Warden at the beginning of the game if the Warden is female, she's not actually a virgin in that scenario, but in the vanilla game she could still be one . I think its safe to say that Isabella and Merrill could both easily fit the 'bad girl' role you're looking for, but we won't totally know for sure until we play the game, less than 2 weeks til game time so we'll know soon enough!

[Sylvianus]

Well in DAO, Merrill wasn't that nice. I mean she was sort of bordering arrogant, and quick to get worked up about things.

True, but the dev have totally changed her personality. I do not think we can all refer to the dao. They have completely ignored what they did.

In dao, Merrill was not awkward at all, not at all innocent or childish. She does not even care about the life of Tamlen in ruins, what mattered to her was just looking for the mirror.

You can care for people and still be a complete douche bag at the same time.

Yes, but it aptly describes what I say. Isabella is not really practical, just neutral, caring people she loves. It will not tend to want things very hard, like obliterating an entire circle of mages, the focus of the fittest. As in lothering Morrigan or defends the seller face to the people who protested against its price.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 26 février 2011 - 11:10 .

[contextual_entity]

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...
I know isn't it Awesome:wub:

No.

Seriously, why is this weird cultural obsession with virgins still floating around?

I don't get it.

Clumzor wrote...

A'ight, she's the chaotic good girl.

Sounds more Chaotic Neutral. She has a baseline of morality (slavery) and refuses to be involved in it (so not evil). She seems to care for those close to her or useful to her, but has no obvious inclination to go out of her way for people in general that a good character would have.

Modifié par Amitar, 26 février 2011 - 11:13 .

[Threeparts]

All I can advise is that you don't try and slot the DA2 companions into certain stereotypes that DA:O had. Does there need to be a bad girl or bad boy? Does there need to be 'the sweet one', 'the aggressive one', 'the tragic one'? Can't we subvert the tropes, or ignore them altogether?
I'm glad Isabela is too complex to simply be passed over as "oh, she's the bad girl and Merrill's the nice one." The fact that the oh-so cute Merrill practices blood magic should be a warning against that sort of thinking.

Modifié par Threeparts, 26 février 2011 - 11:19 .

[My Avatar is a Lizard]

Amitar wrote...

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...
I know isn't it Awesome:wub:

No.

Seriously, why is this weird cultural obsession with virgins still floating around?

I don't get it.

Clumzor wrote...

A'ight, she's the chaotic good girl.

Sounds more Chaotic Neutral. She has a baseline of morality (slavery) and refuses to be involved in it (so not evil). She seems to care for those close to her or useful to her, but has no obvious inclination to go out of her way for people in general that a good character would have.

Virgin>Non virgin

[Sylvianus]

I'm glad Isabela is too complex to simply be passed over as "oh, she's the bad girl and Merrill's the nice one." The fact that the oh-so cute Merrill practices blood magic should be a warning against that sort of thinking.

But I'm also glad that Isabella is more complex than it does air. What bothers me most is that for the two romances, we follow the same direction on the bottom, although the form differs. I ask not necessarily what we have to stereostypes, but the romances are not alike. We have not felt vaguely that this is not really different.

Me if Merrill was able to be pragmatic, and is much less innocent than we think, but then I'll be very happy. Because for now ...

If I make a character that is dominated by the feeling of power, selfish, who does has nothing to do with the opinion of others, who do not care about people's lives, I still hope I do not always have the rivalry .

Modifié par Sylvianus, 26 février 2011 - 11:31 .