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uzivatel wrote...

Amitar wrote...

Seriously, why is this weird cultural obsession with virgins still floating around?

I don't get it.

She wont be able to compare you with the other guys even if you are lacking?

Well, that explain why I don't give a d*mn then.

[Nonoru]

Purgatious wrote...

Nonoru wrote...

Purgatious wrote...

Nonoru wrote...

Purgatious wrote...

Merrils a blood mage.

Good girl my ass.

Doesn't automatically make her a bad girl.

It does however prevent her from being a good girl.

How so ?

She uses the life energy of others to power forbidden magic.

No wait your right shes a golden girl

Aren't blood mage able to use their own blood to cast their spells ? Look at Jowan.

Modifié par Nonoru, 26 février 2011 - 12:25 .

[TeamLexana]

Sylvianus wrote...

Something bothers me about romances for guys. Please do not think I'm jealous of girls (can be a bit ), but I think they all badass on their side. Their romance seem awfully difficult and interesting. Isabella looks just easier than Merrill.

Now I love this kind of profile, difficult, not at all smooth, exciting and unpredictable as with Morrigan. A character who has his own convictions and tends to contradict you, a character I want to convince, as Ashley in Mass Effect.

This kind of romance or to convince, we think carefully about the answer they will give.

The demo gave me the impression that Isabella was much nicer than I thought. Of course I do not yet know her personality, but I think she will be neutral good, and not enought pragmatic. : s

Yet we have already Merril, who will be the super cute girl, virgin, sweet, clumsy and so on. With her, I know I will always be nice, and it's good. Too predictable.

Where are the bad girls for DA2? I want a girl or boring proud and fierce, as Velanna, for example. On the one hand the cute girl on the other, someone more pragmatic one.

You weigh the system of friendship / rivalry is going to change anything about it ?

Well, she is a bit "free spirited"... or as some would say,a "ho", and ho's are bad girls right, lol? Isabella can bed your Warden and two of your campions at the same time in DAO if u want, she cheated on her husband with Zevran, didn't seem to give a crap when he killed said husband later on, and she also seems to come on pretty strong to Hawke in the demo.

I didn't find her to be all that willing to do the right thing in the demo because I found it far more interesting to not offer to help her to get the relic, but instead tell her to stand up to the bad guy. She was not amused, lolz. That could lead to some interesting clashing of personalities if u are always trying to push her to simply stand up and do the right thing - face Cas.. (whatever that guys name was, lol) and all the bully jerkfaces like him and to rescue kittens from trees as opposed to encouraging her to simply accept that the strong step on the weak and we should all just accept that and help her get the relic to give to Cas... (well yeah, whatever his name was, lolz).

As a side, I hope I can still do the mission for getting the relic whenever that's suspose to come available, then simply not give it to the dude so that I can kills me some more enemies! YARR!

[Purgatious]

Nonoru wrote...

Purgatious wrote...

Nonoru wrote...

Purgatious wrote...

Nonoru wrote...

Purgatious wrote...

Merrils a blood mage.

Good girl my ass.

Doesn't automatically make her a bad girl.

It does however prevent her from being a good girl.

How so ?

She uses the life energy of others to power forbidden magic.

No wait your right shes a golden girl

Aren't blood mage able to use their own blood to cast their spells ? Look at Jowan.

He let a boy under his care become an abomination, gets lily sent to aeonar, poisons the arl of redcliff, and you can get him to kill the wife of the arl to fix it.

No body who uses blood magic, either from their own blood, or others is good.

[WidowMaker9394]

Rival Romance should do the trick, methinks.

[Zaldrak84]

Bad girl doesn't mean evil, they are two entirely different things. 

Also Morrigan wasn't very evil either, just selfish and quite b.itchy with people she didn't like.

Modifié par Zaldrak84, 26 février 2011 - 12:34 .

[LilyasAvalon]

wulfsturm wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

The first trailer seemed to hint at a possible betrayl by Isabella, so she could be classified as the 'bad girl' so to say.

Anyway, if the girls DO get Sebastian as a romancable, that means Bioware is logically going to release another romancable DLC, probably female, maybe you'll get the bad girl then.

Giving their track record for such things, I think it's pretty doubtful he'll be a LI.

Sebastian has already been confirmed by his writers to have quite a few flirt lines and they've neither denied or confirmed he is an LI. They're jsut telling us to wait and see. Bloody torturers. T_T

...besides, if Sebastian isn't a romanable by the time he comes out, he will be by the end of the first week, fangirls are probably making their Varric/Carver/Sebastian mods as we speak.

[LilyasAvalon]

... Wait, Merril's a blood mage now?

[wulfsturm]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Sebastian has already been confirmed by his writers to have quite a few flirt lines and they've neither denied or confirmed he is an LI. They're jsut telling us to wait and see. Bloody torturers. T_T

...besides, if Sebastian isn't a romanable by the time he comes out, he will be by the end of the first week, fangirls are probably making their Varric/Carver/Sebastian mods as we speak.

Aveline has quite a few flrit lines as well, and she's confirmed not to be an LI.

Just saying.

[RainbowPenguin]

ZaroktheImmortal wrote...

Purgatious wrote...

Nonoru wrote...

Purgatious wrote...

Nonoru wrote...

Purgatious wrote...

Merrils a blood mage.

Good girl my ass.

Doesn't automatically make her a bad girl.

It does however prevent her from being a good girl.

How so ?

She uses the life energy of others to power forbidden magic.

No wait your right shes a golden girl

Actually someone could use their own blood to power blood magic.

Good point. An exellent example is Jowan when he cut himself and used blood magic to escape the Templars.

[Zaldrak84]

RainbowPenguin wrote...

ZaroktheImmortal wrote...

Purgatious wrote...

Nonoru wrote...

Purgatious wrote...

Nonoru wrote...

Purgatious wrote...

Merrils a blood mage.

Good girl my ass.

Doesn't automatically make her a bad girl.

It does however prevent her from being a good girl.

How so ?

She uses the life energy of others to power forbidden magic.

No wait your right shes a golden girl

Actually someone could use their own blood to power blood magic.

Good point. An exellent example is Jowan when he cut himself and used blood magic to escape the Templars.

Not to mention the PC if he choses to become a Blood Mage, nothing prevents you from using only your life force and make all the good choices as a blood mage.

Modifié par Zaldrak84, 26 février 2011 - 12:36 .

[ZaroktheImmortal]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

... Wait, Merril's a blood mage now?

I don't think anything about her being a blood mage has been confirmed or even suggested officially. I think this is more of people believing every rumour they hear and jumping to conclusions.

[Esbatty]

Some Dalish are not above using lethal means of defending themselves from outside threats, so the Dalish aren't pacifists by any means. Keepers and Firsts are Mages and are not restricted by The Chantry, thus the Dalish can and probably do use some or hold the knowledge of the use of Blood Magic. Zathrian being a Keeper not only summoned a spirit from the fade but also bound it to his life force prolonging his own life.



So just because Merrill knows Blood Magic doesn't mean she is "not good", she just isn't what The Chantry or the Templars would describe as good as she has nothing to keep her from abusing her power or becoming an abomination.

[RainbowPenguin]

Zaldrak84 wrote...

RainbowPenguin wrote...

ZaroktheImmortal wrote...

Purgatious wrote...

Nonoru wrote...

Purgatious wrote...

Nonoru wrote...

Purgatious wrote...

Merrils a blood mage.

Good girl my ass.

Doesn't automatically make her a bad girl.

It does however prevent her from being a good girl.

How so ?

She uses the life energy of others to power forbidden magic.

No wait your right shes a golden girl

Actually someone could use their own blood to power blood magic.

Good point. An exellent example is Jowan when he cut himself and used blood magic to escape the Templars.

Not to mention the PC if he choses to become a Blood Mage, nothing prevents you from using only your life force and make all the good choices as a blood mage.

It seems that we are all agreeing on the fact that Merill practices Blood Magic can have little to no effect on her personality. 

[TeamLexana]

Blood Mages use their own blood to fuel magic except for one spell to leach life from a party member if u wish, but even that's not for magic, that's to heal the caster.

[Nonoru]

He let a boy under his care become an abomination, gets lily sent to aeonar, poisons the arl of redcliff, and you can get him to kill the wife of the arl to fix it.

No body who uses blood magic, either from their own blood, or others is good.

Connor becomes an abomination because of his mother.Jowan learnt him basic stuff.Besides a demon could have felt Connor's power before Jowan teach him.Jowan also could have been a bad teacher.
Morrigan which is an apostate would also have been a bad teacher.Even Wynne which is a ranked mage from the circle,was.

He poisoned the Arl because he was ordered to by the Teyrn Loghain and as a bargain for his life.

Lily get punished for helping a blood mage to escape,yes,but Jowan wouldn't have used blood magic if it wasn't for her.He was ready to give up all magic for her.

Killing the Arlessa is optional.

In the end all the facts you mentionned are not related(but the last one which is optional),to the fact that he is a blood mage.Any mage could have done the same.

Jowan is dumb, not evil.

@LilyasAvalon

Yup,she is.

Modifié par Nonoru, 26 février 2011 - 12:45 .

[EVILFLUFFMONSTER]

No one will be better than Morrigan, Jack came close - but it seems to me the best looking girl I have seen so far is the main characters own sister - which sucks.

[Purgatious]

Nonoru wrote...

He let a boy under his care become an abomination, gets lily sent to aeonar, poisons the arl of redcliff, and you can get him to kill the wife of the arl to fix it.

No body who uses blood magic, either from their own blood, or others is good.

Connor becomes an abomination because of his mother.Jowan learnt him basic stuff.Besides a demon could have felt Connor's power before Jowan teach him.Jowan also could have been a bad teacher.
Morrigan which is an apostate would also have been a bad teacher.Even Wynne which is a ranked mage from the circle.

He poisoned the Arl because he was ordered to by the Teyrn Loghain and as a bargain for his life.

Lily get punished for helping a blood mage to escape,yes,but Jowan wouldn't have used blood magic if it wasn't for her.He was ready to give up all magic for her.

Killing the Arlessa is optional.

In the end all the facts you mentionned are not related(but the last one which is optional),to the fact that he is a blood mage.Any mage could have done the same.

Jowan is an dumb, not evil.

@LilyasAvalon

Yup,she is.

Rationalisation of evil actions doesn't make them less evil.

And I didn't say he 'caused connor to became possessed, he just let him practice magic as a cover to assassinate the arl (the one person he could have come clean to)

The point is he makes immoral choices, and thus isn't good.

[RainbowPenguin]

And why exactly did Jowan get into blood magic in the first place? It's not something that's commonly taught in The Circle.

[Zaldrak84]

Purgatious wrote...

Nonoru wrote...

He let a boy under his care become an abomination, gets lily sent to aeonar, poisons the arl of redcliff, and you can get him to kill the wife of the arl to fix it.

No body who uses blood magic, either from their own blood, or others is good.

Connor becomes an abomination because of his mother.Jowan learnt him basic stuff.Besides a demon could have felt Connor's power before Jowan teach him.Jowan also could have been a bad teacher.
Morrigan which is an apostate would also have been a bad teacher.Even Wynne which is a ranked mage from the circle.

He poisoned the Arl because he was ordered to by the Teyrn Loghain and as a bargain for his life.

Lily get punished for helping a blood mage to escape,yes,but Jowan wouldn't have used blood magic if it wasn't for her.He was ready to give up all magic for her.

Killing the Arlessa is optional.

In the end all the facts you mentionned are not related(but the last one which is optional),to the fact that he is a blood mage.Any mage could have done the same.

Jowan is an dumb, not evil.

@LilyasAvalon

Yup,she is.

Rationalisation of evil actions doesn't make them less evil.

And I didn't say he 'caused connor to became possessed, he just let him practice magic as a cover to assassinate the arl (the one person he could have come clean to)

The point is he makes immoral choices, and thus isn't good.

Again look at the PC: he can be a Blood Mage and make all the good choices (and no, you don't have to do something evil to become one either, you can bully the demon into teaching you Blood Magic and then banish her anyway).

[DraCZeQQ]

Yea there is no cute F/F option either ... so suck it up!

[Purgatious]

Zaldrak84 wrote...

Purgatious wrote...

Nonoru wrote...

He let a boy under his care become an abomination, gets lily sent to aeonar, poisons the arl of redcliff, and you can get him to kill the wife of the arl to fix it.

No body who uses blood magic, either from their own blood, or others is good.

Connor becomes an abomination because of his mother.Jowan learnt him basic stuff.Besides a demon could have felt Connor's power before Jowan teach him.Jowan also could have been a bad teacher.
Morrigan which is an apostate would also have been a bad teacher.Even Wynne which is a ranked mage from the circle.

He poisoned the Arl because he was ordered to by the Teyrn Loghain and as a bargain for his life.

Lily get punished for helping a blood mage to escape,yes,but Jowan wouldn't have used blood magic if it wasn't for her.He was ready to give up all magic for her.

Killing the Arlessa is optional.

In the end all the facts you mentionned are not related(but the last one which is optional),to the fact that he is a blood mage.Any mage could have done the same.

Jowan is an dumb, not evil.

@LilyasAvalon

Yup,she is.

Rationalisation of evil actions doesn't make them less evil.

And I didn't say he 'caused connor to became possessed, he just let him practice magic as a cover to assassinate the arl (the one person he could have come clean to)

The point is he makes immoral choices, and thus isn't good.

Again look at the PC: he can be a Blood Mage and make all the good choices (and no, you don't have to do something evil to become one either, you can bully the demon into teaching you Blood Magic and then banish her anyway).

The PC is an exception in that he doesn't have to follow moral continuity like people do. And hurting your allies to heal yourself because your using forbidden magics that hurt yourself isn't very nice.

[RainbowPenguin]

DraCZeQQ wrote...

Yea there is no cute F/F option either ... so suck it up!

It hasn't been said yet.
Isabella from DA:O was fine with having a threesome with females only. Who's to say that Isabella wouldn't want to get into  Female Hawke's pants?

[wulfsturm]

RainbowPenguin wrote...

It hasn't been said yet.
Isabella from DA:O was fine with having a threesome with females only. Who's to say that Isabella wouldn't want to get into  Female Hawke's pants?

She's saying exactly that. She made an entire thread griping about how ugly Isabela was.

/Shrug. Haters gonna hate I guess.

[SkyWard20]

Purgatious wrote...

Zaldrak84 wrote...

Purgatious wrote...

Nonoru wrote...

He let a boy under his care become an abomination, gets lily sent to aeonar, poisons the arl of redcliff, and you can get him to kill the wife of the arl to fix it.

No body who uses blood magic, either from their own blood, or others is good.

Connor becomes an abomination because of his mother.Jowan learnt him basic stuff.Besides a demon could have felt Connor's power before Jowan teach him.Jowan also could have been a bad teacher.
Morrigan which is an apostate would also have been a bad teacher.Even Wynne which is a ranked mage from the circle.

He poisoned the Arl because he was ordered to by the Teyrn Loghain and as a bargain for his life.

Lily get punished for helping a blood mage to escape,yes,but Jowan wouldn't have used blood magic if it wasn't for her.He was ready to give up all magic for her.

Killing the Arlessa is optional.

In the end all the facts you mentionned are not related(but the last one which is optional),to the fact that he is a blood mage.Any mage could have done the same.

Jowan is an dumb, not evil.

@LilyasAvalon

Yup,she is.

Rationalisation of evil actions doesn't make them less evil.

And I didn't say he 'caused connor to became possessed, he just let him practice magic as a cover to assassinate the arl (the one person he could have come clean to)

The point is he makes immoral choices, and thus isn't good.

Again look at the PC: he can be a Blood Mage and make all the good choices (and no, you don't have to do something evil to become one either, you can bully the demon into teaching you Blood Magic and then banish her anyway).

The PC is an exception in that he doesn't have to follow moral continuity like people do. And hurting your allies to heal yourself because your using forbidden magics that hurt yourself isn't very nice.

how exactly does becoming a blood mage distrupt a 'good mage's' moral continuity? why exactly is blood magic preventing a character in terms of character integrity to pick all the good choices?