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Should Mass Effect 3's release date be pushed to 2012?*prepares flame shield*


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I don't know. A january realease date wouldn't be that bad.


If anything, it'll probably be earlier than what they're projecting.  So far it's projected as Dec 31 (according to the Gamefly site and it's not often too far from being right lol)

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they wont launch so "similar" games at once! Its obvious. Peeps who may buy ME3 before SWTOR wont do that when TOR is out (im one of them).

They're not launching them "at once"! They're going to be about half a year apart! 

They're not even that similar. One's an MMORPG, the other's a TPS/RPG hybrid.

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No.

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I do have to add: I also wouldn't be surprised if it was delayed to early 2012, but I doubt it will.

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it wouldn't bother me, i wasn't expecting it to come out in 2011 anyways before the announcement, tho given what they've been able to do with the engine in the DLC i don't think they're having problems developing content at breakneck speed anymore

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Bioware doesn't have any rush, and they've already finished making most of the game. I doubt they'll need a delay- in fact, I'd hate to see them delay it just for the sake of fan service. I want them to make Mass Effect 3 the way they envisioned it and in a way that they think is satisfying.


Speaking of which, you know it's inevitable when they release the demo for ME3 that we're going to have the same "hate service" going on here that the DA2 forums do with the few folks pissing and moaning right? lol  Someone, somewhere is going to make a scene about ME3 not being what they thought it was going to be


It seems to be a tactic of some of the worst haters.  I think they believe that by waiting to play the demo it gives them the illusion of objectivity, like they can say they at least gave it a try "I really wanted to like this game guys, I reallly did, but...".  In the end they always say the some nonsensical, PC elitist, paranoid BS they were droning on about before the demo.  It doesn't really matter though, gamers with an IQ above 2 instantly see right through them.


Aside brom being blatantly wrong,  you do realize how incredibly hipocritical your post is right?

The part that makes you wrong is that ME was an RPG,  ME2 was a shooter,  crappy one at that.  Generally speaking,  people have a right to expect the sequel to an RPG to be an RPG.  So you can try the age-old attack tactic of marginalizing a population and attempting to appeal to people's self-image by claiming that if you agree with the population you're an idiot.

But people with an IQ above 2 recognize that form of debate means you have no real counter-arguement for their statements,  thereby validating everything the other parties have stated.

There would have to be serious issues for EA to allow a delay. It'll be shoved out the door whether it is ready or not


That's the EA style of development.  More important to release a game each year rather than release a good game.

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Gatt9 wrote...

Bio Addict wrote...

Aradace wrote...

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Bioware doesn't have any rush, and they've already finished making most of the game. I doubt they'll need a delay- in fact, I'd hate to see them delay it just for the sake of fan service. I want them to make Mass Effect 3 the way they envisioned it and in a way that they think is satisfying.


Speaking of which, you know it's inevitable when they release the demo for ME3 that we're going to have the same "hate service" going on here that the DA2 forums do with the few folks pissing and moaning right? lol  Someone, somewhere is going to make a scene about ME3 not being what they thought it was going to be


It seems to be a tactic of some of the worst haters.  I think they believe that by waiting to play the demo it gives them the illusion of objectivity, like they can say they at least gave it a try "I really wanted to like this game guys, I reallly did, but...".  In the end they always say the some nonsensical, PC elitist, paranoid BS they were droning on about before the demo.  It doesn't really matter though, gamers with an IQ above 2 instantly see right through them.


Aside brom being blatantly wrong,  you do realize how incredibly hipocritical your post is right?

The part that makes you wrong is that ME was an RPG,  ME2 was a shooter,  crappy one at that.  Generally speaking,  people have a right to expect the sequel to an RPG to be an RPG.  So you can try the age-old attack tactic of marginalizing a population and attempting to appeal to people's self-image by claiming that if you agree with the population you're an idiot.

But people with an IQ above 2 recognize that form of debate means you have no real counter-arguement for their statements,  thereby validating everything the other parties have stated.


There would have to be serious issues for EA to allow a delay. It'll be shoved out the door whether it is ready or not


That's the EA style of development.  More important to release a game each year rather than release a good game.


Actually YOURE wrong...Look up the text book defintion of RPG (yes its in the dictionary)  ME2 fits (albeit barely) within the realm of that defintion....Your apology is accepted in advance Image IPB

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Aradace wrote...
Actually YOURE wrong...Look up the text book defintion of RPG (yes its in the dictionary)  ME2 fits (albeit barely) within the realm of that defintion....Your apology is accepted in advance Image IPB

ME2 is an RPG. It's not a particularly hardcore nor in-depth one, but it's still an RPG.

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OnlyShallow89 wrote...

Aradace wrote...
Actually YOURE wrong...Look up the text book defintion of RPG (yes its in the dictionary)  ME2 fits (albeit barely) within the realm of that defintion....Your apology is accepted in advance Image IPB

ME2 is an RPG. It's not a particularly hardcore nor in-depth one, but it's still an RPG.


Exactly what I was saying lol...You can tell the folks who dont use their dictionaries very often because they take a word like RPG and turn it into what they want it to be instead of thinking of it in it's true defintion.

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I'm torn.

On one hand I loved ME2 and I can't wait to finish the Trilogy so I'm glad that ME3 is supposed to come out this year.

On the other hand I want ME3 to be perfect. As much as I enjoyed ME2 there is alot of room for improvement. With the ( relatively ) quick development time between ME2 and ME3 you kind of wonder how much feedback were Bioware able to get about ME2's faults and how many issues will be addressed for ME3.

Either way this discussion is more or less irrelevant, Bioware apparently began work on ME3 while they were finishing up ME2, I also hear that they are very far along so all the major bits and bobs are probably already there.

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It'll probably release this year, when all the big games will come out. If it's delayed, they're throwing out opportunity of the Christmas frenzy when everyone goes shopping crazy. Imagine if it were released on Black Friday.....

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It'll probably release this year, when all the big games will come out. If it's delayed, they're throwing out opportunity of the Christmas frenzy when everyone goes shopping crazy. Imagine if it were released on Black Friday.....


If it werent for the fact that most games/movies are released on Tuesdays, Im sure they would lol.

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You know, now that I'm thinking about it, pushing ME3 to 2012 could seem like a silent admission on EA's end that they think ME3 won't hold up to the other highly anticipated titles of this year. So even when ME3 gets pushed back, I don't think EA wants to lose face and release it this year anyway, wether it's done or not.

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You know, now that I'm thinking about it, pushing ME3 to 2012 could seem like a silent admission on EA's end that they think ME3 won't hold up to the other highly anticipated titles of this year. So even when ME3 gets pushed back, I don't think EA wants to lose face and release it this year anyway, wether it's done or not.


Actually, it's already been more or less confirmed that it's being released around the holidays this year.  At worst, it'll be pushed back to January of 2012....At worst.  Because ME2 was released in mid January if anyone cares to remember.

Modifié par Aradace, 26 février 2011 - 08:02 .


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Aradace wrote...

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You know, now that I'm thinking about it, pushing ME3 to 2012 could seem like a silent admission on EA's end that they think ME3 won't hold up to the other highly anticipated titles of this year. So even when ME3 gets pushed back, I don't think EA wants to lose face and release it this year anyway, wether it's done or not.


Actually, it's already been more or less confirmed that it's being released around the holidays this year.  At worst, it'll be pushed back to January of 2012....At worst.  Because ME2 was released in mid January if anyone cares to remember.

Personally I give the posibility that ME3 will be postponed less than ten percent. As far as I know EA never backs out on a release date. Bioware seemed to have had a lot more freedom back in their independent days when it comes down to release dates, or at least with Microsoft. If I remember correctly, ME (1)'s release got pushed at least two times.

Modifié par Mister Mida, 26 février 2011 - 08:14 .


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Mister Mida wrote...

Aradace wrote...

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You know, now that I'm thinking about it, pushing ME3 to 2012 could seem like a silent admission on EA's end that they think ME3 won't hold up to the other highly anticipated titles of this year. So even when ME3 gets pushed back, I don't think EA wants to lose face and release it this year anyway, wether it's done or not.


Actually, it's already been more or less confirmed that it's being released around the holidays this year.  At worst, it'll be pushed back to January of 2012....At worst.  Because ME2 was released in mid January if anyone cares to remember.

I also said 'if'. Personally I give the posibility that ME3 will be postponed less than ten percent. As far as I know EA never backs out on a release date. Bioware seemed to have had a lot more freedom back in their independent days when it comes down to release dates, or at least with Microsoft. If I remember correctly, ME (1)'s release got pushed at least two times.


It was also the first in the franchise as well so they were dealing with "new territory" so to speak so a delay made sense.  The engine for ME3 isnt horribly different from ME2s which is part of the reason for the "quick production" rate on ME3

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I hope it doesn't release in January. I don't wanna have to miss another school day to get it.

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Aradace wrote...

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Actually, it's already been more or less confirmed that it's being released around the holidays this year.  At worst, it'll be pushed back to January of 2012....At worst.  Because ME2 was released in mid January if anyone cares to remember.

I also said 'if'. Personally I give the posibility that ME3 will be postponed less than ten percent. As far as I know EA never backs out on a release date. Bioware seemed to have had a lot more freedom back in their independent days when it comes down to release dates, or at least with Microsoft. If I remember correctly, ME (1)'s release got pushed at least two times.


It was also the first in the franchise as well so they were dealing with "new territory" so to speak so a delay made sense.  The engine for ME3 isnt horribly different from ME2s which is part of the reason for the "quick production" rate on ME3

That's a possibility.

Anyway, just because a date's been set, doesn't always mean it's finished then. Look at KotOR 2.

Modifié par Mister Mida, 26 février 2011 - 08:26 .


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everyone knows that this is going to happen. Im willing to put money on it.



any takers?

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That's a possibility.

Anyway, just because a date's been set, doesn't always mean it's finished then. Look at KotOR 2.


Bioware didnt make KOTOR 2. DUH

Modifié par brokit808, 26 février 2011 - 08:45 .


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Mister Mida wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Mister Mida wrote...

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Actually, it's already been more or less confirmed that it's being released around the holidays this year.  At worst, it'll be pushed back to January of 2012....At worst.  Because ME2 was released in mid January if anyone cares to remember.

I also said 'if'. Personally I give the posibility that ME3 will be postponed less than ten percent. As far as I know EA never backs out on a release date. Bioware seemed to have had a lot more freedom back in their independent days when it comes down to release dates, or at least with Microsoft. If I remember correctly, ME (1)'s release got pushed at least two times.


It was also the first in the franchise as well so they were dealing with "new territory" so to speak so a delay made sense.  The engine for ME3 isnt horribly different from ME2s which is part of the reason for the "quick production" rate on ME3

That's a possibility.

Anyway, just because a date's been set, doesn't always mean it's finished then. Look at KotOR 2.


That's a reaalllllllllllllllllllllllllly bad example....*puts up finger in a crosslike pattern and hisses*....A VERY bad example lol.  Albeit a worst case scenario I can see your point.  Let's just hope it doesnt end up like KotoR II lol.  Even though Obsidian I believe made Kotor II lol.

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brokit808 wrote...


That's a possibility.

Anyway, just because a date's been set, doesn't always mean it's finished then. Look at KotOR 2.


Bioware didnt make KOTOR 2. DUH

I know that and that's not the point. DUH

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Aradace wrote...

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It was also the first in the franchise as well so they were dealing with "new territory" so to speak so a delay made sense.  The engine for ME3 isnt horribly different from ME2s which is part of the reason for the "quick production" rate on ME3

That's a possibility.

Anyway, just because a date's been set, doesn't always mean it's finished then. Look at KotOR 2.


That's a reaalllllllllllllllllllllllllly bad example....*puts up finger in a crosslike pattern and hisses*....A VERY bad example lol.  Albeit a worst case scenario I can see your point.  Let's just hope it doesnt end up like KotoR II lol.  Even though Obsidian I believe made Kotor II lol.

Well, the point I was trying to make was that publishers still seem to believe that the Holidays are still the time to bring in the big bucks. LucasArts thought so with KotOR 2, which turned into a disaster with multiple release dates.

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I still see it being released at worst, mid January like ME2. Otherwise, Im thinking probably a week or so earlier than Dec 31st.

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They've already finished the engine, all they have to do now is story and cinematic's..

 

You forget the most important.... making the whole game.

A graphic engine is NOT a level editor, it's a customisable software that allow you to import all your models, textures, sounds, codes, videos and put it together to make the game alive by his technical advancement (both by 3D graphic and coding enchancement to be used on hardware able to render those technicals advancements).

They still have to rely on external software for everthing else and export their work in a way to be used in the engine.

Writing a story is a lot shorter than building it in 3d, you can describe a wonderfull place in one page written in one hour, and you could need 3 month to make it in 3d.


The story is written BEFORE you make the game, it's part of "pre-production", it wouldn't make sens to work on a game and still don't know what will be inside at the same time, they need to be organised to know what they will do, estimate how long it will take, how much expensive it could be.

Making a video game on modern hardware is not using a kind of advanced rpg maker .... it's "hand made" and not "factory made".


To OP:
They knew what the story will be about years ago (when ME1 was out, we knew it would be a trilogie).
The 3 games is meant to run on the same plateform (xbox360), so they know the hardware very well and their dev team are very experienced since then.
That's why devloppement can be shorter and still not sacrificing play time, graphic quality etc.

Modifié par Siegdrifa, 26 février 2011 - 09:01 .