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[Hathur]

So I was listening to the Invisible Walls podcast over on gametrailers ... they got their hands on the last NPD report that showed sales of games in January.... I was sad to find out that the PS3 version of ME2 only sold about 70,000 copies in North America in January.

Part of me is not surprised, since anyone who would have played ME2 (a game over a year old now) probably has... but I'm still a bit saddened by it.. would've liked to see / hear that it sold close to 300k-500k copies on the ps3 during its launch.

On the upside, I doubt Bioware / EA took a loss on these sales - if anything it was still likely a bit of a profit since it's not as if it took a huge team to port it over to PS3... costs were probably pretty minimal.

Still, I was kinda hoping more console / ps3 gamers would latch on and try it out... or maybe they've just already played it on PC / xbox and didn't need it on PS3.

Modifié par Hathur, 26 février 2011 - 04:09 .

[Annihilator27]

70,000? Alot lower then I thought.PS3 users shall aide us during the ME3 launch!!!

[Link Ashland 614]

Hmm, either a lot of PS3 owners got it for Xbox/PC, or they just didn't care and though it was a stupid game, or something.

But you're right, it's doubtful they lost money on this. See EA? The Xbox won't die fast, the PS3, well, maybe.



I hope that the sales improve, or at least, EA's favoritism for the PS3 changes, and they release that Terminus Armor I've eyeing on for the PC and Xbox, hehehe.

[SaY4cT]

gamespot's fault

They presented the frame rate issues as game breaking

I did encounter many frame rate issues but nothing too bad

[Chala]

Maybe because a lot of ps3 user bought the pc version of the game? That's the main reason for me

[Loerwyn]

I think the lower sales can be summed up a few ways, or perhaps explained.

Firstly, Mass Effect is a story driven shooter. It's not like Bad Company 2 or Team Fortress 2 where you can just pick up the game. To fully experience the game and the universe you need to at least play the three main games, and PS3 users haven't got that facility. Yes, they have a comic, but a little piece of content like that isn't going to replace the hours put into Mass Effect 1 and its story/choices. I reckon no access to an ME1 game or save will be one factor, at least for those who care about the story.

Secondly, I think it's come out a bit late. As someone mentioned above; Most people who want it will have it either on the PC or the 360 at this point, and the PS3 version would just come in to get those last few sales. If the PS3 version was truly going to do well, I think it should have released closer to the PC/360 release last year. A post-Christmas release wasn't particularly great, either, as people generally have a little less to spend in the month or so after, so if they wanted the sales then between late-Feb and April would perhaps have been better release dates.

I think the PS3 users were offered an incredibly good value package, and there's clearly been some care put into the release, but I do think that it didn't have much of a chance to do well. Shame, really.

[kyles3]

I don't regret doing it, but probably a lot of people are reluctant to jump into the middle of a series. Really a shame that ME1 can't be brought to the PS3.

[Dragonfan8574]

The biggest reason was that it was a port of a year old game. The same thing happened with oblivion and bioshock when it came out a year later on ps3. I also think the ps3 owners who are holding out on the price drop will pick it up eventually and mass effect 3 sales will be much better since it is releaseing at the same time on all three platforms. I saw somehwere else that it was around 81,000 in the first two weeks. The save corruption bug (which is fixed now) probably did not help sales either. 

Modifié par Dragonfan8574, 26 février 2011 - 05:07 .

[rooky91]

Invisible walls is a terrible podcast which focus' on American only, I stop listening when Marcus left.

One of the reason it may not have sold so well in America could be due to the fact it was at the end of the month, it could have sold more since then.

Secondly I heard alot of people COULDN'T buy copies due to retailers not stocking enough, a problem that happened here in the uk as the game was sold out everywhere for a few days.

Lastly, this was ONLY for America. Its not the capital of the world like some people would have you believe. Chances are that the game will have sold alot better in total around the world.

OP heres somthing that might help http://gamrreview.vg.../mass-effect-2/, this shows its still selling so chances are people are wating for a price drop. Seen as it is a year old.

Modifié par rooky91, 26 février 2011 - 05:16 .

[Zweebs]

Vgchartz shows it closer to 200,000

[Hathur]

rooky91 wrote...

Invisible walls is a terrible podcast which focus' on American only, I stop listening when Marcus left.
.

You might be interested to know then that Marcus returned to the podcast several months ago.

Still, I agree, it's an average podcast at best... but they're one of the few sources where you can hear about NPD sales ever since they locked it up from the media & general public.

[rooky91]

Hathur wrote...

rooky91 wrote...

Invisible walls is a terrible podcast which focus' on American only, I stop listening when Marcus left.
.

You might be interested to know then that Marcus returned to the podcast several months ago.

Still, I agree, it's an average podcast at best... but they're one of the few sources where you can hear about NPD sales ever since they locked it up from the media & general public.

Marcus has return, this is good news indeed. I may check it out again thanks

[SaY4cT]

Well, they've both got that "I've seen hell and lived to tell about it" thing in their voice

[88mphSlayer]

no year-late re-release should be $60 when the same game is a fraction of the cost on other platforms

[Fiery Phoenix]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

I think the lower sales can be summed up a few ways, or perhaps explained.

Firstly, Mass Effect is a story driven shooter. It's not like Bad Company 2 or Team Fortress 2 where you can just pick up the game. To fully experience the game and the universe you need to at least play the three main games, and PS3 users haven't got that facility. Yes, they have a comic, but a little piece of content like that isn't going to replace the hours put into Mass Effect 1 and its story/choices. I reckon no access to an ME1 game or save will be one factor, at least for those who care about the story.

Secondly, I think it's come out a bit late. As someone mentioned above; Most people who want it will have it either on the PC or the 360 at this point, and the PS3 version would just come in to get those last few sales. If the PS3 version was truly going to do well, I think it should have released closer to the PC/360 release last year. A post-Christmas release wasn't particularly great, either, as people generally have a little less to spend in the month or so after, so if they wanted the sales then between late-Feb and April would perhaps have been better release dates.

I think the PS3 users were offered an incredibly good value package, and there's clearly been some care put into the release, but I do think that it didn't have much of a chance to do well. Shame, really.

For emphasis.

In essence, it isn't unexpected.

[james1976]

Not sure what the reason is but when I went to pre-order DA2 for the PC I noticed Gamestop had a lot of used ME2 PS3 copies in the store. They were even offering a $20 trade-in on it.

[Swordz]

"about 70,000 copies in North America in January."
"In North America"

It's not like ONLY north america people would buy it.

also a lot of people played on the pc... I just bought it to help the devs (and to play the dlcs) because i had already played on the pc

Modifié par Swordz, 26 février 2011 - 07:16 .

[ZeroDotZero]

I am British and I purchased a copy. I am outside that 70,000.

[Winckle]

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Maybe because a lot of ps3 user bought the pc version of the game? That's the main reason for me

That's what I did! And I'll continue with Mass Effect 3 on PC.

[Bluko]

Well a lot of PS3 owners will disregard it as Xbox garbage. To them it's just another stupid inferior former Xbox exclusive not worth their time. You'd be surprised how dense and unwilling some people are to even play games on other consoles. (I do own a PS3 myself by the way, so I'm not hating PS3 users.)

Other things to keep in mind is that is a year old port selling at the same price as if it were new. Though the fact that you get all the DLC with it so far really means cost wise it's about the same. And I'll be honest the Demo wasn't that great so a lot of maybe-buyers probably weren't really impressed.

Then you have the technical issues. The framerate is all over the place in that it can go from like 20ish FPS to 30+ FPS. ME2 on the Xbox is nice since it runs at a steady framerate around 30. While it's cool that the PS3 can run it at a higher FPS (makes it more vivid) the fact the framerate alternates a lot gets annoying. Graphically it's also not really any better (PS3 doesn't have quite as good graphics card as 360) some shadowing and stuff is better. And as has been mentioned there was a pretty big issue with saves getting corrupted.

Finally you have to take into account most people who really wanted ME2 probably got it. No offense but it's kind of stupid to get it on the PS3 since you'll never be able to import an ME1 save. And frankly playing ME2 without even playing ME1 is stupid. Half the appeal of ME2 is that you can import your Shepard with all your decisions carrying-over. Honestly a friend of mine who has a PS3 asked if he should get it. Guess what? I told him not to. ME2 is great and all, but it's not the same without having played through ME1. I told him he should just get the games for his PC, that way he can play through the entire series. Plus I think he'd like ME1 better as he's more of an RPG guy that loves having tons of items, levels, etc. To him ME2 would just be another Third Person Shooter. Which is frankly how a lot of people view ME2.

Most real Gamers aren't stupid. I mean why would you get ME2 if you never played ME1?

If ME1 had been released on the PS3 this all might have been a different story. Of course Microsoft won't let ME1 go because they're arses. It's not like ME1 is bringing them anymore profit. Of MS can't really afford to lose it's exclusives since that's about it all has going for it. And I suppose if ME1 did become a port the Xbox kids would rage to no end. But still doesn't change facts. I'll be honest if prefer the PS3 as my main console and if ME1 was released I would probably get all the the Mass Effect games (unless they were really ****ty). I never have to pay to get access to online stuff and my PS3 has never died from overheating/RROD.

Frankly without ME1 on the PS3 it ain't worth it. Not sure why Bioware even did this, it was pretty obvious the game wouldn't sell that many copies. But they are owned by EA and they'll do anything to make a few extra bucks. I kind of laugh when they tote it's the superior version. The superior versions of the game will always be on the PC. Though I myself  prefer to have a controller in hand for shooters, though if I had a better PC I'd probably opt for the PC versions. Sadly my good video card died on me and I'm working more towards just getting a new PC, motherboard, etc.

[Pwener2313]

EA got greedy. Even if other countries bought the game, they had the loss coming. They will never learn.

[Hanar Shakespeare]

Dragonfan8574 wrote...

The biggest reason was that it was a port of a year old game. The same thing happened with oblivion and bioshock when it came out a year later on ps3. I also think the ps3 owners who are holding out on the price drop will pick it up eventually and mass effect 3 sales will be much better since it is releaseing at the same time on all three platforms. I saw somehwere else that it was around 81,000 in the first two weeks. The save corruption bug (which is fixed now) probably did not help sales either. 

I have a PS 3 and bought both Mass Effect 2 and Bioshock. However, I did once own an XBOX 360 at one time, and have played the original Mass Effect extensively.

Though this is conjecture on my part, I feel the less than stellar sales can be partly attributed to Mass Effect 2 being a sequel to a game unavailable on the PlayStation 3. Were Mass Effect 1 available for purchase, or were it bundled along with Mass Effect 2, then sales may have been higher.

[Pwener2313]

Next we'll hear that EA wants to bring the game to the new DS.



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[Raizo]

The number is alot lower than expected although as others have pointed out there are alot of reasons why ME2 on the PS3 was never going to be a big seller for Bioware and EA:



1. It took a year for ME2 to get to the PS3. Most PS3 owners are probably looking forward to new games like Killzone 3, Crysis 2, Dues Ex, Uncharcted 3, etc instead of getting excited about a game that 360 and OC owners have had since last January. The fact that it is full price on the PS3 and 360 owners can pick up a brand new copy for under €20 just adds insult to injury.



2. Part 2 of a Trilogy and part 1 isn't available on the PS3. It does make it kind of hard to give damn about the story when you are missing the beggining and while the interactive comic does have it benefits and uses it is a poor substitue to actually playing ME1 yourself.



3. The bugs and glitches. It feels like Bioware did a rush job on the port, you kind of wonder if anyone play tested the PS3 version. Project Overlord in particular should have raised alarm bells, how can anyone not see what how rough the graphics look during the Hammerhead section of Project Overlord.

[JKoopman]

Who would've figured that a year-old RPG being ported to another console mid-way through a direct trilogy might not sell the greatest? Oh yeah, everyone.