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#151
Aesieru

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Notice how everyone in this thread pretty much says "BioWare isn't good enough to come up with that story", and yet the story that they're not good enough to come up with is essentially just a mass of critical-events with no reasoning behind them whatsoever?



I'd say that I'd prefer BioWare's story than the one there, because there'd be a clear line of how it got to that point, and there's lore to establish it.



BioWare doesn't suck in the story department.

#152
PretentiousCat

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However, many devs do make 'choices' from previous games for you, and makes them canon as they see fit.

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Wissenschaft wrote...

LOL, we already know they haven't made anyone as king/queen Canon. So this is just a Troll.


Again, making the huge assumption that he is telling the truth it could be as easy as him not paying attention and picking one of the defaults that has Alistair alive. 

*assumption*

The parts that can't be assumed away are the vast lore discrepancies. 

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PretentiousCat wrote...

Andraste is theorized as being a blood mage.


So m8, are you the one posting all this BS on 4Chan? because you're pushing hard for people to believe it could be true.

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Flemeth gave Hawke a letter at the beginning of the game? Yeah, this is fake.

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Ahhhh the power of 4chan. Anyway, is there a chance the poster is actually some reviewer who got his hands on a copy and leaks plot info for the lulz?

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Wissenschaft wrote...

LOL, we already know they haven't made anyone as king/queen Canon. So this is just a Troll.


Again, making the huge assumption that he is telling the truth it could be as easy as him not paying attention and picking one of the defaults that has Alistair alive. 

*assumption*

The parts that can't be assumed away are the vast lore discrepancies. 

Damn it. Stop giving me hope. Im trying to let this go :P

#158
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Purple People Eater wrote...

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All im saying, is Hawke is possessed by something. Weve known that for a while, with the red eyes. This would explain that at least.


No we don't.  It's called "Blood Magic."  And that only happened in one trailer and whenever we see him portrayed as "mage" Hawke.

Ok, but why portray a hero as a blood mage?. They arent known as fine upstanding citizens.


He's portrayed as something different everytime.  The destiny trailer was just to show how mages have changed combat-wise from the first game.  Blood magic is also a very popular spec among the fans so it would make sense they would use it as a marketing ploy.

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As Rihanna said:



I love the way you lie.

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ViSeirA wrote...

PretentiousCat wrote...

Andraste is theorized as being a blood mage.


So m8, are you the one posting all this BS on 4Chan? because you're pushing hard for people to believe it could be true.


I want it to be true, because those critical events are crazy. But you can read on many dragon age fan sites that some evidence points to Andraste being a blood mage herself.

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Wissenschaft wrote...

"Hawke's Party + Darkspawn + Old Gods + Alistair's armies (Alistair is king in the second half of DA2; they made that canon)"

LOL, we already know they haven't made anyone as king/queen Canon. So this is just a Troll.

\\

Not immpossible,

Allistar is never really killed it's possible after the blight arl eamon leads a revolution against Anora if she is elected

#162
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no, its all made up.



"The letter that Flemeth gives to Hawke at the beginning of the game is actually blank--she was just trying to get him away from the Grey Wardens' path."



From the Demo we know Flemeth gives an amulet, not a letter.

#163
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Dr. wonderful wrote...

As Rihanna said:

I love the way you lie.


Thanks for making me just youtube that song...

#164
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[is trolling]

sorry about that i dont know what came over me.........
'starts glowing'
Your forum poster became a troll!!!!!


:D

Modifié par DrunkenMonkey, 26 février 2011 - 07:30 .


#165
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Aesieru wrote...

Notice how everyone in this thread pretty much says "BioWare isn't good enough to come up with that story", and yet the story that they're not good enough to come up with is essentially just a mass of critical-events with no reasoning behind them whatsoever?

I'd say that I'd prefer BioWare's story than the one there, because there'd be a clear line of how it got to that point, and there's lore to establish it.

BioWare doesn't suck in the story department.


I'd prefer a story revolving around the conflict of different planes (Fade, Black City), ancient enemies (Tevinter Imperium), and higher beings (Old Gods, Maker) than one revolving around a massive political dispute (Qunari attack) and having PC become champion by winning said dispute (Champion of Kirkwall).

Then again just my opinion and how I assume the game will turn out to be.

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Purple People Eater wrote...

Damn it. Stop giving me hope. Im trying to let this go


Well, half the reason I'm bothering at all is because it amuses me.  The other half is it might get people to focus on the other parts which aren't so easily explained - the parts my limited/basic knowledge of lore leave me ill equipped to counter and so I have to rely on others input.  

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Anathemic wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Notice how everyone in this thread pretty much says "BioWare isn't good enough to come up with that story", and yet the story that they're not good enough to come up with is essentially just a mass of critical-events with no reasoning behind them whatsoever?

I'd say that I'd prefer BioWare's story than the one there, because there'd be a clear line of how it got to that point, and there's lore to establish it.

BioWare doesn't suck in the story department.


I'd prefer a story revolving around the conflict of different planes (Fade, Black City), ancient enemies (Tevinter Imperium), and higher beings (Old Gods, Maker) than one revolving around a massive political dispute (Qunari attack) and having PC become champion by winning said dispute (Champion of Kirkwall).

Then again just my opinion and how I assume the game will turn out to be.

Mmm, I love me some political stories. 

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Wissenschaft wrote...

no, its all made up.

"The letter that Flemeth gives to Hawke at the beginning of the game is actually blank--she was just trying to get him away from the Grey Wardens' path."

From the Demo we know Flemeth gives an amulet, not a letter.


Demo is just that. A demo...assuming the OP on 4chan had played it, it's easy to change a demo before release.

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Upsettingshorts wrote...

Purple People Eater wrote...

Damn it. Stop giving me hope. Im trying to let this go


Well, half the reason I'm bothering at all is because it amuses me.  The other half is it might get people to focus on the other parts which aren't so easily explained - the parts my limited/basic knowledge of lore leave me ill equipped to counter and so I have to rely on others input.  

I love parks and rec by the way. I laugh everytime I see your avatar.

#170
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DrunkenMonkey wrote...

[is trolling]


Try a little harder. Don't worry, you're almost there.

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Haha- thats about 99% rubbish.....but then again, I do recall prior to Awakening coming out some guy came on the forums decrying the ending there where "you stab a psycho broodmother in the face and walk away, end scene, end game" and thinking that guy had to be lying.

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Anathemic wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Notice how everyone in this thread pretty much says "BioWare isn't good enough to come up with that story", and yet the story that they're not good enough to come up with is essentially just a mass of critical-events with no reasoning behind them whatsoever?

I'd say that I'd prefer BioWare's story than the one there, because there'd be a clear line of how it got to that point, and there's lore to establish it.

BioWare doesn't suck in the story department.


I'd prefer a story revolving around the conflict of different planes (Fade, Black City), ancient enemies (Tevinter Imperium), and higher beings (Old Gods, Maker) than one revolving around a massive political dispute (Qunari attack) and having PC become champion by winning said dispute (Champion of Kirkwall).

Then again just my opinion and how I assume the game will turn out to be.


Then I can see why you (probably) don't like DA2's story. I'm luck because I like both types of story.:)
I hope you can find a game with the type of story you want.

Modifié par hhh89, 26 février 2011 - 07:31 .


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PretentiousCat wrote...

Wissenschaft wrote...

no, its all made up.

"The letter that Flemeth gives to Hawke at the beginning of the game is actually blank--she was just trying to get him away from the Grey Wardens' path."

From the Demo we know Flemeth gives an amulet, not a letter.


Demo is just that. A demo...assuming the OP on 4chan had played it, it's easy to change a demo before release.


Except another site, possibly a reviewer, who had played the game verified that Flemeth gives Hawke an amulet and the ritual that it's used for is the catalyst for a large plot twist.

#174
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Just in case there's any doubt: the 4chan talk is BS.

#175
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dreamextractor wrote...

DrunkenMonkey wrote...

[is trolling]


Try a little harder. Don't worry, you're almost there.


thats what she said.....:P

nah the guy is fake on 4chan he's not telling the truth....


oh look david just comfirmed it

Modifié par DrunkenMonkey, 26 février 2011 - 07:32 .