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[ArcanistLibram]

12-15 hours for the main quest alone sounds about the same as DAO if you take out the Fade level and the Deep Roads.

[JrayM16]

Thefallenhun wrote...

Rixxencaxx wrote...

ok so the reviewer say:
Bad graphics
bad story
short game
Rushed party characterization

and give 87?????

Sounds to me like that 87 was bought, which is a pretty common practice, not earned. I see this game being a huge dissappointment.

A bought review wouldn't ahve said anything negative at all and would have been atleast 90.

I mean seriously, If I had payed for a review andt they criticized the graphics, story, length, and characterization then gave it a sub-90 score, I'd want my money back. 

This review is clearly not bought.

[Fadook]

Rixxencaxx wrote...

ok so the reviewer say:
Bad graphics
bad story
short game
Rushed party characterization

and give 87?????

This is all taken out of context. Perhaps in the full review it's clear that the reviewer thinks the good points are very good and the bad points aren't that big of a deal.

[ME2 Fighter M]

Reviews are great to read for the cautious, but for me I am a die hard fan. I always knew that DA will always have a open ending, that's how dlcs work.

[Desolution]

Dr. Nexas wrote...

Rompa87 wrote...

Fenris
Isabella
Carver
Bethany
Aveline
Varric
Merrill
Anders
Sebastian

That's 9, isn't it?

But you lose one of the siblings at the begining, bringing it down to 8. Maybe I'm just reading it wrong, but saying up to 9 companions implys that you will have 9 full companions by the end of the game.

At the end of the game, that big blue brute guy from the trailers can join your party, if you make him into a Grey Hawke. But if you do that, Varrick either dies, or leaves the party forever.

Edit: Wait, wrong game...

Modifié par Desolution, 26 février 2011 - 10:13 .

[Thefallenhun]

Well this game doesn't deserve a good review until you can romance bethany, carver, mother hawke, and flemeth.

[Night Prowler76]

There is alot less content in this game, I dont see why anyone would be surprised by this, youc ant make a game in 2 years be as good as a game that took you 5 years to make unless you have twice as many employees or something.

Its still amazes me how many Bioware fanboys are in denial about the state of the DA series, GOOD RPGS take more than 2 years to make, and I dont care how good a studio is, they are not going to replicate the amount of content in DAO in less than half the time for DA2.



Think about this for a second, Bethesda has been working on Skyrim since 2006, when Oblivion was released, this is what its like when a company actually cares about their product, they take their time with it, and the longer time between games makes for more anticipation, and its funny DA2 comes out in 2 weeks, but there is more buzz for Skyrim lol



I really want to like DA2, but everything I see is disappointing, the graphics are not on par with TW2 or Skyrim, and then people say oh the story will be better blah blah we have to sacrifice one for the other, which is just not true, the writers are not the ones programming the games, they just write the script lol



Im not saying TW2 will be better than DA2, sales wise it wont, but Skyrim will be outsell DA2 probably 2 to 1, and the consumer will have spoken, and they will say that a RPG with a 5 year dev time is worth more than one with a 2 year dev time.

[Altima Darkspells]

Night Prowler76 wrote...

Im not saying TW2 will be better than DA2, sales wise it wont, but Skyrim will be outsell DA2 probably 2 to 1, and the consumer will have spoken, and they will say that a RPG with a 5 year dev time is worth more than one with a 2 year dev time.

Yeah, but in those five years it took to develop Skyrim, EA can release 2.5 games rife with DLCs and cheap(er) production, with the possibility of an overpriced expansion or two, too.  So in the end, they'd win out.

[Dr. Nexas]

Night Prowler76 wrote...

There is alot less content in this game, I dont see why anyone would be surprised by this, youc ant make a game in 2 years be as good as a game that took you 5 years to make unless you have twice as many employees or something.
Its still amazes me how many Bioware fanboys are in denial about the state of the DA series, GOOD RPGS take more than 2 years to make, and I dont care how good a studio is, they are not going to replicate the amount of content in DAO in less than half the time for DA2.

Think about this for a second, Bethesda has been working on Skyrim since 2006, when Oblivion was released, this is what its like when a company actually cares about their product, they take their time with it, and the longer time between games makes for more anticipation, and its funny DA2 comes out in 2 weeks, but there is more buzz for Skyrim lol

I really want to like DA2, but everything I see is disappointing, the graphics are not on par with TW2 or Skyrim, and then people say oh the story will be better blah blah we have to sacrifice one for the other, which is just not true, the writers are not the ones programming the games, they just write the script lol

Im not saying TW2 will be better than DA2, sales wise it wont, but Skyrim will be outsell DA2 probably 2 to 1, and the consumer will have spoken, and they will say that a RPG with a 5 year dev time is worth more than one with a 2 year dev time.

Baldur's Gate 2 came out 2 years after the original. 

[Darkeus]

And in all the years that they worked on Skyrim, it will still be buggy.



Just like Oblivion, just like Fallout 3.



Not a good analogy...

[Darkeus]

Dr. Nexas wrote...

Night Prowler76 wrote...

There is alot less content in this game, I dont see why anyone would be surprised by this, youc ant make a game in 2 years be as good as a game that took you 5 years to make unless you have twice as many employees or something.
Its still amazes me how many Bioware fanboys are in denial about the state of the DA series, GOOD RPGS take more than 2 years to make, and I dont care how good a studio is, they are not going to replicate the amount of content in DAO in less than half the time for DA2.

Think about this for a second, Bethesda has been working on Skyrim since 2006, when Oblivion was released, this is what its like when a company actually cares about their product, they take their time with it, and the longer time between games makes for more anticipation, and its funny DA2 comes out in 2 weeks, but there is more buzz for Skyrim lol

I really want to like DA2, but everything I see is disappointing, the graphics are not on par with TW2 or Skyrim, and then people say oh the story will be better blah blah we have to sacrifice one for the other, which is just not true, the writers are not the ones programming the games, they just write the script lol

Im not saying TW2 will be better than DA2, sales wise it wont, but Skyrim will be outsell DA2 probably 2 to 1, and the consumer will have spoken, and they will say that a RPG with a 5 year dev time is worth more than one with a 2 year dev time.

Baldur's Gate 2 came out 2 years after the original. 

Bam!!!

[AkiKishi]

Fadook wrote...

You've seen 20 minutes of combat. And 5 of those were the exaggerated stuff that's not representative of normal gameplay.

Putting aside that PC players can use the console to "cheat" levels. What do you think will change in the full game that you cant see in the demo ?

[My Avatar is a Lizard]

Darkeus wrote...

And in all the years that they worked on Skyrim, it will still be buggy.

Just like Oblivion, just like Fallout 3.

Not a good analogy...

How can you mention Buggy with out Mentioning NEw vegas?
 

[AkiKishi]

Darkeus wrote...

And in all the years that they worked on Skyrim, it will still be buggy.

Just like Oblivion, just like Fallout 3.

Not a good analogy...

Must be a nightmare to playtest them. I've always wondered why they did not make smaller "worlds" with more content, rather than the expansive masses. Even at half the size, it's still a huge area to explore.

[The Elder King]

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

And in all the years that they worked on Skyrim, it will still be buggy.

Just like Oblivion, just like Fallout 3.

Not a good analogy...

How can you mention Buggy with out Mentioning NEw vegas?
 

F: NV was developed by Obsidian, Bethseda is only the publisher.

[Darkeus]

My Avatar is a Lizard wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

And in all the years that they worked on Skyrim, it will still be buggy.

Just like Oblivion, just like Fallout 3.

Not a good analogy...

How can you mention Buggy with out Mentioning NEw vegas?
 

Well, to be honest, that was Obsidian working with the buggy Fallout engine.  We all know Obsidian has a bit of a reputaion for buggy but good games. 

You can't blame that all on Bethseda.  

[AkiKishi]

Darkeus wrote...

Dr. Nexas wrote...

Night Prowler76 wrote...

There is alot less content in this game, I dont see why anyone would be surprised by this, youc ant make a game in 2 years be as good as a game that took you 5 years to make unless you have twice as many employees or something.
Its still amazes me how many Bioware fanboys are in denial about the state of the DA series, GOOD RPGS take more than 2 years to make, and I dont care how good a studio is, they are not going to replicate the amount of content in DAO in less than half the time for DA2.

Think about this for a second, Bethesda has been working on Skyrim since 2006, when Oblivion was released, this is what its like when a company actually cares about their product, they take their time with it, and the longer time between games makes for more anticipation, and its funny DA2 comes out in 2 weeks, but there is more buzz for Skyrim lol

I really want to like DA2, but everything I see is disappointing, the graphics are not on par with TW2 or Skyrim, and then people say oh the story will be better blah blah we have to sacrifice one for the other, which is just not true, the writers are not the ones programming the games, they just write the script lol

Im not saying TW2 will be better than DA2, sales wise it wont, but Skyrim will be outsell DA2 probably 2 to 1, and the consumer will have spoken, and they will say that a RPG with a 5 year dev time is worth more than one with a 2 year dev time.

Baldur's Gate 2 came out 2 years after the original. 

Bam!!!

Not really a great example that was a different age of game making where things were quicker, especially once you had the engine.

[Darkeus]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

And in all the years that they worked on Skyrim, it will still be buggy.

Just like Oblivion, just like Fallout 3.

Not a good analogy...

Must be a nightmare to playtest them. I've always wondered why they did not make smaller "worlds" with more content, rather than the expansive masses. Even at half the size, it's still a huge area to explore.

I can imagine.  But then again, you take up such big worlds, there is a risk that you let more bugs through.

[Shifty Assassin]

9 companions? probably includes your sister/brother sebastian and a secret companion if it dosnt count sebastian there might be 2 secret companion...sweet

[Darkeus]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Dr. Nexas wrote...

Night Prowler76 wrote...

There is alot less content in this game, I dont see why anyone would be surprised by this, youc ant make a game in 2 years be as good as a game that took you 5 years to make unless you have twice as many employees or something.
Its still amazes me how many Bioware fanboys are in denial about the state of the DA series, GOOD RPGS take more than 2 years to make, and I dont care how good a studio is, they are not going to replicate the amount of content in DAO in less than half the time for DA2.

Think about this for a second, Bethesda has been working on Skyrim since 2006, when Oblivion was released, this is what its like when a company actually cares about their product, they take their time with it, and the longer time between games makes for more anticipation, and its funny DA2 comes out in 2 weeks, but there is more buzz for Skyrim lol

I really want to like DA2, but everything I see is disappointing, the graphics are not on par with TW2 or Skyrim, and then people say oh the story will be better blah blah we have to sacrifice one for the other, which is just not true, the writers are not the ones programming the games, they just write the script lol

Im not saying TW2 will be better than DA2, sales wise it wont, but Skyrim will be outsell DA2 probably 2 to 1, and the consumer will have spoken, and they will say that a RPG with a 5 year dev time is worth more than one with a 2 year dev time.

Baldur's Gate 2 came out 2 years after the original. 

Bam!!!

Not really a great example that was a different age of game making where things were quicker, especially once you had the engine.

Oh now come on.  I will concede and say that the prodcution values and such make dev time a bit longer these days but that is a cop out.  Baldur's Gate II came less than two years after Baldur's Gate.

You know, they could have been working on this game since before DA:O ws released.

And you know, the engine for DA2 is not really different from DA:O either (Art direction does not count since you can change art direction without changing engines.) so your explanation hold less water.

[AllThatJazz]

And of course for more than twice the development time, one expects that Skyrim will be more than twice as good as DA2 in all aspects. Not just prettier graphics and (potentially) bigger sales figures but hardly any bugs, better developed characters, a rich and fascinating storyline, better written dialogue, superb voice acting across the board and deeper, more tactical combat.  A game totally worthy of the 94+ scores it will probably receive from every major reviewer.  :innocent: I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

OT: Can't imagine the main quest of any game taking much longer than 12-15 hours. Still remember people doing speed runs of BG2 in about that time (possibly even less?). 

[Twaddlefish]

Somehow, I don't think all the prologue characters count as companions if they don't make it past the beginning, just like all the ones in DA:O don't count.

[Dr. Nexas]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Dr. Nexas wrote...

Night Prowler76 wrote...

There is alot less content in this game, I dont see why anyone would be surprised by this, youc ant make a game in 2 years be as good as a game that took you 5 years to make unless you have twice as many employees or something.
Its still amazes me how many Bioware fanboys are in denial about the state of the DA series, GOOD RPGS take more than 2 years to make, and I dont care how good a studio is, they are not going to replicate the amount of content in DAO in less than half the time for DA2.

Think about this for a second, Bethesda has been working on Skyrim since 2006, when Oblivion was released, this is what its like when a company actually cares about their product, they take their time with it, and the longer time between games makes for more anticipation, and its funny DA2 comes out in 2 weeks, but there is more buzz for Skyrim lol

I really want to like DA2, but everything I see is disappointing, the graphics are not on par with TW2 or Skyrim, and then people say oh the story will be better blah blah we have to sacrifice one for the other, which is just not true, the writers are not the ones programming the games, they just write the script lol

Im not saying TW2 will be better than DA2, sales wise it wont, but Skyrim will be outsell DA2 probably 2 to 1, and the consumer will have spoken, and they will say that a RPG with a 5 year dev time is worth more than one with a 2 year dev time.

Baldur's Gate 2 came out 2 years after the original. 

Bam!!!

Not really a great example that was a different age of game making where things were quicker, especially once you had the engine.

Its not that different. Devs can still put out a sequel pretty quick if they are still using the same engine and assets.

[da0Xeffect]

Most games today rarely go 12-15 hours for the main quests. To say a long main quest makes it a good RPG is TBD.

Laidlaw said in a video it would be shorter than DA:O but not by too much and it depends on the player. I get paranoid I'm going to miss something and I stick with it for awhile. DA:O took me about 48 hours.

Concerning the ending, I think we are going to be upset about it because we are going to be left hanging. We will want more and we will have to wait as usual for the next one. Still think this game is going to be great. I will have to play it before I can say it is great or sucks but I'm thinking great.

[sheridanmovieguy]

This review seems kind of...dodgy to me. Frankly, I'm more interested in what other people have to say on this.