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[Purple People Eater]

makalathbonagin wrote...

oblivion "main quest" takes 3 h ... just sayin
haters gunna hate

Yup. Fallout 3, and NV also very short if you dont go off the beaten path.

[Ivolon]

Purple People Eater wrote...

makalathbonagin wrote...

oblivion "main quest" takes 3 h ... just sayin
haters gunna hate

Yup. Fallout 3, and NV also very short if you dont go off the beaten path.

But those are not story driven games.

[Atakuma]

You could go through origins in 15hrs pretty easily, plus origins had a lot of padding.

[aksoileau]

It's just 1 review, and an 87 isn't bad. DAO on consoles averaged scores in the mid 80s...

[John Epler]

For what it's worth, my DA2 playthrough was almost exactly as long as my Origins playthrough. Not saying this is a typical experience, but I didn't feel DA2 was significantly shorter than Origins.



That said, playthrough time is an entirely pointless statistic unless you're comparing the same person's playthrough on two games and have access to knowledge such as 'did this person complete side quests' and 'did this person not skip dialogue'.

[AlexXIV]

aksoileau wrote...

It's just 1 review, and an 87 isn't bad. DAO on consoles averaged scores in the mid 80s...

And I want to see it rated below 80/100, 8/10 or 4/5 before I call it a bad game. Every reviewer so far says it is a good game.

[Stinkface27]

I'm not so worried about what they say the length is..I've played DA:O in anywhere from 20-70 hours.



I hope they are wrong about the characters, though.

[AlexXIV]

JohnEpler wrote...

For what it's worth, my DA2 playthrough was almost exactly as long as my Origins playthrough. Not saying this is a typical experience, but I didn't feel DA2 was significantly shorter than Origins.

That said, playthrough time is an entirely pointless statistic unless you're comparing the same person's playthrough on two games and have access to knowledge such as 'did this person complete side quests' and 'did this person not skip dialogue'.

And you have faster combat, so I guess we only 'lose' the rather annoying parts. Right?

[Ploppy]

After closely reading the test, I'd say that any contradictions between the text summary and the final scoring are Gamestar's fault. They spend most of the article pointing out DA2's faults (and they find a lot of them) and save most of the positive notes for the ratings box.

Modifié par Ploppy, 27 février 2011 - 12:53 .

[Atakuma]

Ploppy wrote...

After closely reading the test, I'd say that any contradictions between the text summary and the final scoring are Gamestar's fault. They spend most of the article pointing out DA2's faults (and they find a lot of them) and save most of the positive notes for the ratings box.

A lot of reviewers have that problem where they front load the criticism, and dont leave much space for the positives.

[ItsFreakinJesus]

There were reviews that said ME2 was 15 hours long. People cried cried and cried. Then they played the game and it took them 30-40 hours to beat.



Same will happen with DA2. All of the complaints going on right now about Dragon Age were the same complaints before ME2 dropped.

[Querne]

Gamestar said 12-15 hours without and twice the time with sidequests, so about 30 hours total.
PC Games, the other big German magazine was at 48 with sidequests.

And sure shorter lenght can mean flatter characters, this was the problem with Awakening.

Reading the text was surprised by the high % score of both.

Modifié par Querne, 27 février 2011 - 01:03 .

[PsychoBlonde]

What the heck is "epicness"? Are they seriously complaining that you don't save the world and get the girl or some other nonsense? I'm sick of that game. The way they've touted the story from the beginning, it was supposed to be a setup story, a transition from Origins to a yet-to-come "big conflict", perhaps.

[FieryDove]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

What the heck is "epicness"? Are they seriously complaining that you don't save the world and get the girl or some other nonsense? I'm sick of that game. The way they've touted the story from the beginning, it was supposed to be a setup story, a transition from Origins to a yet-to-come "big conflict", perhaps.

Not epic maybe but cliffhanger is written all over the place.

[falconlord5]

FieryDove wrote...

PsychoBlonde wrote...

What the heck is "epicness"? Are they seriously complaining that you don't save the world and get the girl or some other nonsense? I'm sick of that game. The way they've touted the story from the beginning, it was supposed to be a setup story, a transition from Origins to a yet-to-come "big conflict", perhaps.

Not epic maybe but cliffhanger is written all over the place.

I love cliffies. The nerdrage they generate is just so freakin' awesome.

[Querne]

 "Are they seriously complaining that you don't save the world and get the girl or some other nonsense?"

They are complaining that there are no epic scenes like Ostagar or the final battle and the game is limited to one city.
Seriously.

Modifié par Querne, 27 février 2011 - 01:12 .

[wikkedjoker]

JohnEpler wrote...

For what it's worth, my DA2 playthrough was almost exactly as long as my Origins playthrough. Not saying this is a typical experience, but I didn't feel DA2 was significantly shorter than Origins.

That said, playthrough time is an entirely pointless statistic unless you're comparing the same person's playthrough on two games and have access to knowledge such as 'did this person complete side quests' and 'did this person not skip dialogue'.

Agreed.

Further more I believe this reviewer needs to learn how to write reviews.

Most
of the article is him/her talking about Dragon Age II without talking
about Dragon Age II. Ether ****ing about EA, or restating things we ALREADY know.

And to the 12-15 hour play time, how
did they play it ? On Casual, and do nothing? You could run through Origins main plot in
12- 15 hours on Casual, if you skipped everything other than the main quest. Hell you could Play Masseffect one and 2 in about 8 hours each if you did that.

And like I've said a million times graphics don't matter. Coming form the 8 bit era of gaming I could care less about how a game looks. Too often do developers substitute eye candy for for substance. I've played Mass effect 2, I've seen what they can do with top of the line textures and bitmaping etc. And I have NO reason to believe that the look of the game is nothing more than an artistic view of the world, could they have made it look like the Destiny trailer, I have no doubt. However too often do we have games like Crysis 2 and COD and what ever, that trade "photo realistic" graphics, for any artistic soul it could have had.

I do have my complainants about Dragon Age II's look however I can feel the work that went into creating the world.      
 
I'm really not worried.

Modifié par wikkedjoker, 27 février 2011 - 01:14 .

[Ploppy]

Their complaint about an unresolved ending probably ties closely into the "epicness" issue. Not necessarily a cliff hanger, but maybe a "After Kirkwall changed rulers, Hawke left the city. You want to know where he is now? I got no idea." type of situation.

[Arttis]

JrayM16 wrote...

Emphasis on "Take your time and explore everything the game has to offer."

Without that, Even Origins could be completed in minimal time.

if you listened to everything and took the quests nearby you could go about 30 hours even on easy.

[Querne]

wikkedjoker wrote...

And like I've said a million times graphics don't matter. Coming form the 8 bit era of gaming I cold care less about how a game looks. Too often do developers substitute eye candy for for substance.

And that´s why you don´t write reviews.

[BloodyMangus]

I am going to assume the reviewer didn't stop to read some the lore from the codex section. That was actually one of my favourite things to do in DAO and it took a fair chunk of time doing it.

[wikkedjoker]

Querne wrote...

wikkedjoker wrote...

And like I've said a million times graphics don't matter. Coming form the 8 bit era of gaming I cold care less about how a game looks. Too often do developers substitute eye candy for for substance.

And that´s why you don´t write reviews.

Yes, because the opinion I'm spouting on a forum would be as polished as something I'm writing professionally.

[Exzander1]

I'm playing through DA:O again cause I lost my saves - doing absoltuely no side things plus no DLC, the only place I have left to go through is the deep roads, the meeting where you decide the fate of the king, and the last battle, and I'm nearing 7 hours.



I say put in an hour and 30 mins for the deep roads, an hour to do everything to set up the kind meeting, and then another 40 mins to an hour to do the last part of the game?



You're looking at roughly 10-11 hours to complete only the main missions to beat the game.



12-15 hours for only the main mission is not really that bad at all.

[Beaner28]

DA 2 is half-assed like I said it would be.