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[Amioran]

Demo-Mike wrote...

This is another feature they removed from the original, a feature that didn't want removing .

Either make it better or none at all.

A) It's not written anywhere that a sequel must have all things of the original. On the contrary.
Having only a race to choose is not a drawback in itself. It can be a conceptual drawback for some people, but it's not a factual one.
C) Having only a race doesn't mean that you have "less". Just because you cannot choose a race at beginning doesn't mean that they "removed" something, just because choices are not the only thing (nor the most important things) that compose a good rpg. If, for example, in a game you have 4 paths to choose but all those paths are linear without branches and depth, and on the other game you have only 1 path but this is full of non linear branches and depth, then the game with the only one path will be better everyday.

Modifié par Amioran, 26 février 2011 - 08:56 .

[PrinceOfFallout13]

DTKT wrote...

Raraptor wrote...

I stopped taking reviewers seriously, because most of the time they make things personal instead of looking at it from a neutral point of view.

I dont know about you, but personnal is my definition of a review. Its impossible to have neutral point of view when playing a game. You can compare the game to an other in the same genre but true neutrality is impossible. 

fanboys or haters should never become a reviewer thats why i prefer the casual opinions of people that never tried said game genre

[Demo-Mike]

MadLaughter wrote...

Now would be a good time for some BIoware damage control.

That list of things includes a lot of stuff the fans expressed worries about, though Gaider would come in and say that when 'fans' complain about EVERYTHING, they'll be bound to get a few things right.

We knew since begining that it was going to be rushed and  cheap.

At least i knew.

But I'm still getting it because i can afford games i want this year. If it was a bad year i wouldn't gt it though.

[Rompa87]

Demo-Mike wrote...

Rompa87 wrote...

It's obvious that some people here aren't going to buy DA2, based on the negativity from some posters and comparisons some make between DA2 and other games. That's perfectly fine in my book. What I cannot understand is the mission these people have taken upon themselves; to convince others not to buy the game by constantly nit-picking, bashing, ridiculing and using sarcastic quips.

It certainly doesn't look like constructive criticism to me, anyway. Just bad taste

no one is convincing no one. People have their minds set now i think.

They are either going to love it or hate it. 

Someone who spends time here since the announcement, insulting everyone that displaed the smallest concern about the game, the rushed aspect of it, how they want Fable, COD, farmville audience, isn't suddenly going to play it and go "This sucks" they will love every minute of it.

It doesn't seem like it's going to be the best RPG of the year, or a worthy successor to DA:O but i think i will like it.

I hope it has more Bioware than EA in it.

I also don't think that many are going to be convinced by the negativity or the positive notes, but there are new members coming every day to these boards. Valid concerns have been raised about this game for many months now, but they have been drowned by asinine "DA2 sucks! <insert other game> is SOOO much better!", and people mis-reading facts and making conclusions about a game they have never played.

Please tell me I'm not the only one bothered by this. All those people want is to ruin things for the rest of us. Since they obviously aren't going to buy the game, why don't they **** off the forum and don't kid themselves into believing that they can somehow "educate" the rest of us lost souls

[AkiKishi]

DJBare wrote...

- Hawke has up to 9 companions, who
generally feel alive and responsive. However, they have consistently
less depth and weaker characterization than the cast in Origins. The
only exception is Varric, whose frequent banter with Cassandra provides
much of the game's tension and humour. He's described as "a d*mn cool
sock" (don't ask)

-The game does not feel long or epic, and the central conflict (mages
vs. chantry) is not as dramatic as the reviewer would have liked. But
although it doesn't have anything comparable to the Battle of Ostagar or
the final attack on Denerim, it still has some very tactical boss
fights.

- ugly ("texture mud") and low-polygon graphics, especially in the areas outside of Kirkwall.
Generally feeling of emptiness/lack of NPCs.

- The ending is described as open ended and unresolved .

We each look for different things in a game, these are mine and less than inspiring!

Graphics don't bother me, the others do. I'm happy I'm choosing to rent. You can see from the Demo no one has the same "charisma" that Morrigan had when you first meet her. Even Alistair for that matter.

Yes there are some characters missing, but it's still an obvious thing.

[88mphSlayer]

about the same as Mass Effect 1, this is the only complaint i really have as these types of dark fantasy games don't really endear themselves to short but sweet stories, although i'm a completionist when i play rpg's anyways so i'm sure my playtime will be artificially lengthened

[PinkShoes]

JrayM16 wrote...

Emphasis on "Take your time and explore everything the game has to offer."

Without that, Even Origins could be completed in minimal time.

Yeah thats true i once did a quick play through of origins, only took me 11 hours.

[Demo-Mike]

Rompa87 wrote...

Demo-Mike wrote...

Rompa87 wrote...

It's obvious that some people here aren't going to buy DA2, based on the negativity from some posters and comparisons some make between DA2 and other games. That's perfectly fine in my book. What I cannot understand is the mission these people have taken upon themselves; to convince others not to buy the game by constantly nit-picking, bashing, ridiculing and using sarcastic quips.

It certainly doesn't look like constructive criticism to me, anyway. Just bad taste

no one is convincing no one. People have their minds set now i think.

They are either going to love it or hate it. 

Someone who spends time here since the announcement, insulting everyone that displaed the smallest concern about the game, the rushed aspect of it, how they want Fable, COD, farmville audience, isn't suddenly going to play it and go "This sucks" they will love every minute of it.

It doesn't seem like it's going to be the best RPG of the year, or a worthy successor to DA:O but i think i will like it.

I hope it has more Bioware than EA in it.

I also don't think that many are going to be convinced by the negativity or the positive notes, but there are new members coming every day to these boards. Valid concerns have been raised about this game for many months now, but they have been drowned by asinine "DA2 sucks! is SOOO much better!", and people mis-reading facts and making conclusions about a game they have never played.

Please tell me I'm not the only one bothered by this. All those people want is to ruin things for the rest of us. Since they obviously aren't going to buy the game, why don't they **** off the forum and don't kid themselves into believing that they can somehow "educate" the rest of us lost souls

I'm going to buy this game, but every news about it was negative and this review confrims it's not a prime game as Origins.

Meanwhile every news about that "Other" game was positive. It sold a lot less than DA:O yet they did everything to improve the sequel...

People should be concerned, this is somehow EA's fault, ruining the reputation of the best selling Bioware game 

Damn EA, Activison everyone to hell.

[Anathemic]

Rompa87 wrote...

Demo-Mike wrote...

Rompa87 wrote...

It's obvious that some people here aren't going to buy DA2, based on the negativity from some posters and comparisons some make between DA2 and other games. That's perfectly fine in my book. What I cannot understand is the mission these people have taken upon themselves; to convince others not to buy the game by constantly nit-picking, bashing, ridiculing and using sarcastic quips.

It certainly doesn't look like constructive criticism to me, anyway. Just bad taste

no one is convincing no one. People have their minds set now i think.

They are either going to love it or hate it. 

Someone who spends time here since the announcement, insulting everyone that displaed the smallest concern about the game, the rushed aspect of it, how they want Fable, COD, farmville audience, isn't suddenly going to play it and go "This sucks" they will love every minute of it.

It doesn't seem like it's going to be the best RPG of the year, or a worthy successor to DA:O but i think i will like it.

I hope it has more Bioware than EA in it.

I also don't think that many are going to be convinced by the negativity or the positive notes, but there are new members coming every day to these boards. Valid concerns have been raised about this game for many months now, but they have been drowned by asinine "DA2 sucks! is SOOO much better!", and people mis-reading facts and making conclusions about a game they have never played.

Please tell me I'm not the only one bothered by this. All those people want is to ruin things for the rest of us. Since they obviously aren't going to buy the game, why don't they **** off the forum and don't kid themselves into believing that they can somehow "educate" the rest of us lost souls

I'm on the forum to see if some miracle of me liking the game happens, probably not.

In all seriousness, I'm here until a few weeks after DA2 is released to see the reviews

[FieryDove]

Rompa87 wrote...

Please tell me I'm not the only one bothered by this. All those people want is to ruin things for the rest of us. Since they obviously aren't going to buy the game, why don't they **** off the forum and don't kid themselves into believing that they can somehow "educate" the rest of us lost souls

I don't know but if you push hard enough sooner or later you will get pushed back.

It works both ways.

I say we should all make peace and go beach hopping.

[TheCreeper]

FieryDove wrote...

Rompa87 wrote...

Please tell me I'm not the only one bothered by this. All those people want is to ruin things for the rest of us. Since they obviously aren't going to buy the game, why don't they **** off the forum and don't kid themselves into believing that they can somehow "educate" the rest of us lost souls

I don't know but if you push hard enough sooner or later you will get pushed back.

It works both ways.

I say we should all make peace and go beach hopping.

Bit cold to do that where I live but I am all about the peace part.

[Amioran]

Demo-Mike wrote...

Meanwhile every news about that "Other" game was positive. It sold a lot less than DA:O yet they did everything to improve the sequel...

You mean that game where you can only play as an human? You mean that other game that have even more "actiony" combat (not that the word is correct neither in this case, but since DA2 is thought as that...)? You mean that game that devs said it will be shorter than the original but with less same content?

There's something I don't get. Aren't these the same things you don't like in DA2?

Modifié par Amioran, 26 février 2011 - 09:10 .

[Rhjh20]

Content:8/10



+long campaign

+high replayability

+many main and side quests



So 15 hours is long for een rpg ?

[Anathemic]

Amioran wrote...

Demo-Mike wrote...

Meanwhile every news about that "Other" game was positive. It sold a lot less than DA:O yet they did everything to improve the sequel...

You mean that game where you can only play as an human? You mean that other game that have even more "actiony" combat (not that the word is correct neither in this case, but since DA2 is thought as that...)? You mean that game that all said it will be shorter than the original but with less same content?

There's something I don't get. Aren't these the same things you don't like in DA2?

Hey buddy do you want to get into an argument about the "Other Game", I'm dieing with anticipation right now

[Eclipse_9990]

12-15 hours just for the main quest, and not including side quests and stuff? I can deal with it.

[Ploppy]

Rhjh20 wrote...

Content:8/10

+long campaign
+high replayability
+many main and side quests

So 15 hours is long for een rpg ?

I have the German article lying in front of me, and that's indeed what they're saying. The main quest is 12-15 hours, but it's also "long". I think he might be comparing it to ME2 and Arcania, which both have main quests that can be done in less time.

[Amioran]

Anathemic wrote...
buddy do you want to get into an argument about the "Other Game", I'm dieing with anticipation right now

I would never dare ;-)

It sounds to me only as strange that people dislike many things in one game that are also in the "other", and when in this last, however, they say they like them. It is a bit of a controsense, don't you think?

Some say it is because of  a concept that you have less choices now, but, also if this would be true, does it mean that if, for example, I'm used to go to restourant A to eat pizza and on B to eat cookies and then this last changes and cook pizza I will get a distaste for pizza?

Modifié par Amioran, 26 février 2011 - 09:19 .

[The Elder King]

Pleas guys, don't start another versus thread. It becames really boring.

[Demo-Mike]

Anathemic wrote...

Amioran wrote...

Demo-Mike wrote...

Meanwhile every news about that "Other" game was positive. It sold a lot less than DA:O yet they did everything to improve the sequel...

You mean that game where you can only play as an human? You mean that other game that have even more "actiony" combat (not that the word is correct neither in this case, but since DA2 is thought as that...)? You mean that game that all said it will be shorter than the original but with less same content?

There's something I don't get. Aren't these the same things you don't like in DA2?

Hey buddy do you want to get into an argument about the "Other Game", I'm dieing with anticipation right now

No sorry, people are not automatically enlisted in fanbody club to hate everything else when they like something

I can like several stuff.

But ze game is an improvement from the previous one and DA II isn't

[Twaddlefish]

Anathemic wrote...

I beat Mass Effect 2 buddy (I think it shows acheivements on profile does it not?)

Either way, Mass Effect 2 was incredibly short for me, now even reaching the 15 hour mark

The first play through I racked up 45 hours, but I like to take my time. 

[Ploppy]

And for what it's worth, I got the feeling that the writer had played through most of the game and all of the companion quests at least. He's really disappointed by the quality of the companions compared to DA:O's, but he says they're still clearly above average compared to other RPGs in the genre.

[Demo-Mike]

Ploppy wrote...

And for what it's worth, I got the feeling that the writer had played through most of the game and all of the companion quests at least. He's really disappointed by the quality of the companions compared to DA:O's, but he says they're still clearly above average compared to other RPGs in the genre.

Above average compared to what? I havent seen many RPG's of this type latel. 

Drakensang is insanely fun, but it's low budget.

[DanteGunZ]

Ploppy wrote...

Rhjh20 wrote...

Content:8/10

+long campaign
+high replayability
+many main and side quests

So 15 hours is long for een rpg ?

I have the German article lying in front of me, and that's indeed what they're saying. The main quest is 12-15 hours, but it's also "long". I think he might be comparing it to ME2 and Arcania, which both have main quests that can be done in less time.

I was also confused by that, 15 hours isn't a long time for the playthrough of a game. (at least for myself)

[Amioran]

Demo-Mike wrote...
But ze game is an improvement from the previous one and DA II isn't

This doesn't change the concept that if you like a thing then you like it no matter from where it comes from (if it is done in the same, or almost the same, way).

Anyway, end of discussion on this point, at last for me. Don't want some to start yet another titles' fight taking my comments as the jumping point. My concept was not this.

Modifié par Amioran, 26 février 2011 - 09:22 .

[Blacklash93]

Recycled environments... I shudder every time I think of it.

And constantly? I pray the reviewer is exaggerating...

Modifié par Blacklash93, 26 février 2011 - 09:25 .