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[Night Prowler76]

I actually feel embarrassed for Bioware after playing the demo and seeing more game footage, Oblivions towns had more NPC's in them and looked way better than this, there is a reason the lead designer for DAO left when he heard what was going to happen to DA2, Im sure he is laughing his ass off at how awful this game is looking now.

[Savber100]

astreqwerty wrote...

O_O

guess im gonna rent it eventually..ah there is always witcher 2 coming next month

You're just asking to be flamed! xD

Mmm Witcher 2 looks good too... Oh decisions decisions decisions. >.<

[TheCreeper]

Kirkwall is better than Denerim in my opinion because it from what I have seen actually looks a solid city that has been there for a while while Denerim looked like some sort of frontier city (except for the Fort and Palace.)

[Dsentinel]

Do we know if this is even the full released version? It looks more like a rough draft, alpha, beta, or something similar.

[Loc'n'lol]

Filament wrote...

Ah yes, vibrant colors and a city bustling with life and people. I see it now. Thank you for opening my eyes.

[artsangel]

I'm glad Aveline's hair doesn't look quite as bad as it did in the demo.

[Tiercel24]

Dark_Dahlia wrote...

I kind of figured a city would have more people in it. I hope that there is an explanation for this.

One I can come up with is that Kirkwall is a huge city and every area is not going to be packed with ppl. I assume places like Market Districts and such will have more ppl and be much more lively.

But I've noticed this has been one of the more common complaints and if it holds true I won't mind when I'm sure the resources that would have went into making random npcs went into things like combat, dialog, etc.

Modifié par Tiercel24, 26 février 2011 - 11:48 .

[Rixxencaxx]

they copy/pasted all origins monsters...recycled backgrounds....stripped party customization....now we know why this sequel was so fast...

[just_me]

Dsentinel wrote...

Do we know if this is even the full released version? It looks more like a rough draft, alpha, beta, or something similar.

Well.. at the beginning of the video they say the copy arrived rather late so there was not enough time to produce a test video for the dvd released with the magazine, but they still wanted to show some gameplay footage.
So I'm rather confident they took these scenes form the retail version and not an old preview...
(I assume the video was taken from the website and it was uploaded after the mag hit the stores...)

I think Kirkwall looks... OK ...
I wonder if the market district is a little more lively...
There are enough people, but most of them just stand around doing nothing... so everything looks rather static.

[tez19]

looks gd to me!

[Druss99]

I liked it, it had a kind of early morning feel to it but I can't quite pinpoint why.

Not so happy with the armour and daggers though. I was planning on playing a rogue but lack of swords and armour that looks like a reinforced cocktail dress just isn't working for me.

[Skilled Seeker]

Just thought I'd post pics of Amarantine for comparision.

Modifié par Skilled Seeker, 27 février 2011 - 01:36 .

[Saibh]

Night Prowler76 wrote...

I actually feel embarrassed for Bioware after playing the demo and seeing more game footage, Oblivions towns had more NPC's in them and looked way better than this, there is a reason the lead designer for DAO left when he heard what was going to happen to DA2, Im sure he is laughing his ass off at how awful this game is looking now.

And three voices between them!

Anyhow, I can't imagine why he'd laugh at how DAII looks, since DAO was a very drab-looking game, for the most part. It just seems hypocritical.

[Brockololly]

I think one of the other really important things with Kirkwall seeming at all like a believable city will be the sound effects and ambient sound. The ambient sounds of Athkatla in BG2 were fantastic towards making it seem like a fleshed out city. Then again, it might seem bizarre if the sounds lean towards some bustling city while visually it looks half deserted.

Saibh wrote...

Anyhow, I can't imagine why he'd laugh at how DAII looks, since DAO was a very drab-looking game, for the most part. It just seems hypocritical.

Eh, I think it has more to do with how even the very first thing we heard of DA2 was Zeschuk commenting on how they were working on the tech to make the game look visually  "super hot." And how the improved look of the game is one of thier big marketing bullet points- to the extent that the likes of Silverman slam Origins' look.

If BioWare wasn't drawing as much attention to how they've "hot rodded" the look of the game, I wouldn't pay it as much attention. But since they are, I think its entirely fair to call them out on it, especially if its not looking that much better- and that goes for the art to the technical side of the graphics to just how much atmosphere locales do or do not have.

Modifié par Brockololly, 27 février 2011 - 01:41 .

[magicwins]

Brockololly wrote...

I think one of the other really important things with Kirkwall seeming at all like a believable city will be the sound effects and ambient sound. The ambient sounds of Athkatla in BG2 were fantastic towards making it seem like a fleshed out city. Then again, it might seem bizarre if the sounds lean towards some bustling city while visually it looks half deserted.

Is it weird that I thought the exact same thing? They might be re-using some sound assets from BG2 for ambient chatter.

[Brockololly]

magicwins wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

I think one of the other really important things with Kirkwall seeming at all like a believable city will be the sound effects and ambient sound. The ambient sounds of Athkatla in BG2 were fantastic towards making it seem like a fleshed out city. Then again, it might seem bizarre if the sounds lean towards some bustling city while visually it looks half deserted.

Is it weird that I thought the exact same thing? They might be re-using some sound assets from BG2 for ambient chatter.

In the gameplay video I could swear that I'm hearing either background sound from Denerim or maybe Orzammar.

[Saibh]

Brockololly wrote...

Eh, I think it has more to do with how even the very first thing we heard of DA2 was Zeschuk commenting on how they were working on the tech to make the game look visually  "super hot." And how the improved look of the game is one of thier big marketing bullet points- to the extent that the likes of Silverman slam Origins' look.

If BioWare wasn't drawing as much attention to how they've "hot rodded" the look of the game, I wouldn't pay it as much attention. But since they are, I think its entirely fair to call them out on it, especially if its not looking that much better- and that goes for the art to the technical side of the graphics to just how much atmosphere locales do or do not have.

I agree. I remember awhile ago a demo previewer said that Kirkwall was very lifeless--and we were told here that environment atmosphere is one of the last things added, and that he was simply looking at a beta version of the game. However, I am under the impression that they ran out of time and did not want to push back the date to add some extra NPCs and dirt or something, so we have that same blank beta-look.

I hope to god we are given a toolset, so someone can get to work right away on an Improved Atmosphere mod.

[Raraptor]

It looks nice, I like the rising smoke and detail to realistic sounds. It might not be New York, but you can't say it doesn't have an atmosphere befitting old city slums.

[magicwins]

Brockololly wrote...

magicwins wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

I think one of the other really important things with Kirkwall seeming at all like a believable city will be the sound effects and ambient sound. The ambient sounds of Athkatla in BG2 were fantastic towards making it seem like a fleshed out city. Then again, it might seem bizarre if the sounds lean towards some bustling city while visually it looks half deserted.

Is it weird that I thought the exact same thing? They might be re-using some sound assets from BG2 for ambient chatter.

In the gameplay video I could swear that I'm hearing either background sound from Denerim or maybe Orzammar.

Hmm... That does seem more likely. I guess it's just that it looks more like an actual city, as opposed to Orzammar or Denerim. Orzammar much less so, but even it felt a mite boxed and categorized.

[ajbry]

Hate on me if you want, but I thought everyone looked pretty good. Who was really expecting the city to be brimming with active citizens? A smattering of people here and there is fine with me.

Took a quick screen (the quality of the video, even in 720p, was underwhelming too - the demo definitely looked better on my 360/TV) to demonstrate that it's really not that bad.

[pezit]

As much as i have been complaining i don't feel there's anything is wrong with the graphics, i certainly don't want it to look all colorful, it's a medieval setting and wood and stone only comes in so many colors.

[TheCreeper]

What I have seen of Kirkwall (outside of the demo, which was at night and a demo) it looks like it has a normal amount of people milling about for it's size compared to say Amarantine and New Vegas.

[OmegaBlue0231]

BeardedNinja wrote...

Morducai wrote...

YUCK. Brown, brown, brown aaaaand...Light brown. What the hell happened to the vibrant colors Origin's had? Is this Dragon Age or Gears of DragonAge? Maybe if I delude myself that I am playing a Dune based game then it'll be better.

Everything just looks so bland and uninspiring.

vibrant colors of origins like...brown? lol I dont know why everybody is complaing about how the art style has changed so much, looks simlar enouh to me 

Noooo! Origins also had grey!

[C-Gamer90]

Tiercel24 wrote...

Dark_Dahlia wrote...

I kind of figured a city would have more people in it. I hope that there is an explanation for this.

One I can come up with is that Kirkwall is a huge city and every area is not going to be packed with ppl. I assume places like Market Districts and such will have more ppl and be much more lively.

But I've noticed this has been one of the more common complaints and if it holds true I won't mind when I'm sure the resources that would have went into making random npcs went into things like combat, dialog, etc.

Well it isn't a big deal for me either. I am not going to go on into a rant or anything over it. I just kinda figured Kirkwall would be a bit more "filled out" I guess since it is described as a "major population center" on the dragon age wikia.