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[sasukeuchiha225]

I play it for the PS3 and im glad i have to hit x to attack makes it less boring and i like the fact i have complete control lol.

[HawXV2]

Metalunatic wrote...

HawXV2 wrote...

They just playa hatin'. It's every bit as tactical as Origins, but people are too lazy to mash buttons. Kinda sad.

''Too lazy to mash buttons''? Maybe some people would prefer auto-attack to mashing one button millions of times during the story. Laziness has nothing to do with that choice.

We have a word for that preference: Lazy

[RavenStorm]

I think partially it's because some one has been telling them that: Button + Awesome = Connected. I think from what I have been reading. That on Consoles you have to repeatedly hit a button press to attack. ???

[Noojers]

For me, on the ps3... if i didnt keep pressing X it would feel as though im not even playing the game..... but maybe that's just me.

[BeardedNinja]

fighterchicks wrote...

JrayM16 wrote...

Mustang678 wrote...

I remember when I first played DA:O I was surprised when I discovered that I didn't have to press A every time I wanted to attack

I would always press it every time anyway.

This.  I button mashed in origins, even though it didn't do anything.

Same here,  it was just instinct. Press A to attack. Had to hold myself back by limiting the amount of times I hit it lol
kinda imersion breaking for me  personally lol 

[GooftyGoober]

From my experience with the xbox version you have to tap "A" a lot but you have to use tactics as well otherwise you have a quick and gruesome death...especially if you play as a mage or a rogue with lower armor rating

[fighterchick]

BeardedNinja wrote...

fighterchicks wrote...

JrayM16 wrote...

Mustang678 wrote...

I remember when I first played DA:O I was surprised when I discovered that I didn't have to press A every time I wanted to attack

I would always press it every time anyway.

This.  I button mashed in origins, even though it didn't do anything.

Same here,  it was just instinct. Press A to attack. Had to hold myself back by limiting the amount of times I hit it lol
kinda imersion breaking for me  personally lol 

THE IMMERSION, IT IS BROKEN AND IT CANNOT BE FIXED!!!!

I did like the tactical side of origins that you can pause and kind of slow down and think about a strategy, but button mashing just makes it feel like I'm contributing more as opposed to strictly auto-attack.  I'm just glad it's faster this time around so my button mashing isn't fruitless. 

[Metalunatic]

HawXV2 wrote...

Metalunatic wrote...

HawXV2 wrote...

They just playa hatin'. It's every bit as tactical as Origins, but people are too lazy to mash buttons. Kinda sad.

''Too lazy to mash buttons''? Maybe some people would prefer auto-attack to mashing one button millions of times during the story. Laziness has nothing to do with that choice.

We have a word for that preference: Lazy

Whos we? You mean you? It is your oppinion, which you wont change, even if the truth hit you right in the face.

Just wasting my breath here.

[Siven80]

I'd guess its more console players who dont know that the full game will have an auto-attack toggle, and those who havent played past the exaggerated part that call the game a hack'n'slash button masher game.



Combination of people talking about the changes to the extreme, ignorance and the exaggerated start which imo, doesnt help the case.



DA2 combat is just a more fluid DAO combat.

[Ailith Tycane]

It's being criticized because on the consoles you have to actively press a button to attack, essentially mashing either the A or X button. I actually liked it, I felt it worked much better for a controller, but people are picky ****es.

[WidowMaker9394]

For some reason I believe that these complaints (for the consoles anyway) wouldn't exist if standard attack was remapped to the right trigger.



Just a thought.

[AkiKishi]

GooftyGoober wrote...

From my experience with the xbox version you have to tap "A" a lot but you have to use tactics as well otherwise you have a quick and gruesome death...especially if you play as a mage or a rogue with lower armor rating

I play on the PS3 but I've never really used tactics. I do program the AI though, so that could be why my team works without much input.

WidowMaker9394 wrote...

For some reason I believe that these complaints (for the consoles anyway) wouldn't exist if standard attack was remapped to the right trigger.

Just a thought.

Please leave it where it is.... Triggers are great for FPS, but face buttons work better for action/rpgs messing around with that without making it an option would be very bad.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 27 février 2011 - 12:21 .

[BeardedNinja]

fighterchicks wrote...

BeardedNinja wrote...

fighterchicks wrote...

JrayM16 wrote...

Mustang678 wrote...

I remember when I first played DA:O I was surprised when I discovered that I didn't have to press A every time I wanted to attack

I would always press it every time anyway.

This.  I button mashed in origins, even though it didn't do anything.

Same here,  it was just instinct. Press A to attack. Had to hold myself back by limiting the amount of times I hit it lol
kinda imersion breaking for me  personally lol 

THE IMMERSION, IT IS BROKEN AND IT CANNOT BE FIXED!!!!

I did like the tactical side of origins that you can pause and kind of slow down and think about a strategy, but button mashing just makes it feel like I'm contributing more as opposed to strictly auto-attack.  I'm just glad it's faster this time around so my button mashing isn't fruitless. 

Yes I am very happy with the direction the combat is going as well  its just unfortunate not everbody can be as happy about as we are.

[Metalunatic]

Ailith430 wrote...

It's being criticized because on the consoles you have to actively press a button to attack, essentially mashing either the A or X button. I actually liked it, I felt it worked much better for a controller, but people are picky ****es.

Picky? No. We expect the same kind of quality as in the first game. If they would have made Origins into a button mashing game and kept it as such in DA2, it would have been fine. To change it to a smasher now, when Origins didn't require such methods in combat would have been an big annoyance to most fans. Thankfully, you can toggle auto-attack on/off.

[DJ0000]

Noojers wrote...

For me, on the ps3... if i didnt keep pressing X it would feel as though im not even playing the game..... but maybe that's just me.

I agree but I think because you're just mashing one button over and over some people find it a little boring. To be fair to BioWare, I did do the exact same thing with warriors and rogues in Origins aswell so I don't really understand how there is a complaint that it is a problem with this game in particular.

[AkiKishi]

BeardedNinja wrote...
Yes I am very happy with the direction the combat is going as well  its just unfortunate not everbody can be as happy about as we are.

Well first reaction was what the hell.. But I got over it pretty quick and it really is an improvement over DA. Except they felt the need to also make the game easier,turn off FF and make everything explode like a cartoon. The faster combat is catching the flack for those things from a lot of people even though it's not direcltly responsible.

[StarcloudSWG]

Moving cancels autoattack. Sometimes being hit cancels auto attack. Sometimes the auto attack just stops for no apparent reason.



That's why it's a button-masher.

[Sabariel]

Because if you have to press even one button to battle it's a button-masher. Only battles that can be fought using psychic waves aren't button mashers

Modifié par Sabariel, 27 février 2011 - 12:26 .

[dshoub]

Because it is...

[Metalunatic]

StarcloudSWG wrote...

Moving cancels autoattack. Sometimes being hit cancels auto attack. Sometimes the auto attack just stops for no apparent reason.

That's why it's a button-masher.

Don't know where you picked that up as its never happened to me in the demo.

[The Spirit of Dance]

i always pressed x repeatedly to attack even though i knew i only had to press it once and watch my warden fight. so, this is not that big a change for me in how i play.

[fighterchick]

Sabariel wrote...

Because if you have to press even one button to battle it's a button-masher. Only battles that can be fought using psychic waves aren't button mashers

This is what I'm saying.  The only direction to go is to take out the buttons, then video games will be perfect!

[Jarradane]

DJ0000 wrote...

Noojers wrote...

For me, on the ps3... if i didnt keep pressing X it would feel as though im not even playing the game..... but maybe that's just me.

I agree but I think because you're just mashing one button over and over some people find it a little boring. To be fair to BioWare, I did do the exact same thing with warriors and rogues in Origins aswell so I don't really understand how there is a complaint that it is a problem with this game in particular.

Same for me on the 360 (note that I played the PC version too).
I have no idea why, but somehow pressing A to attack broke the atmosphere and immersion during the combat.

[AkiKishi]

fighterchicks wrote...

This is what I'm saying.  The only direction to go is to take out the buttons, then video games will be perfect!

You could always wave a wiimote around.

[Mezinger]

BeardedNinja wrote...

fighterchicks wrote...

JrayM16 wrote...

Mustang678 wrote...

I remember when I first played DA:O I was surprised when I discovered that I didn't have to press A every time I wanted to attack

I would always press it every time anyway.

This.  I button mashed in origins, even though it didn't do anything.

Same here,  it was just instinct. Press A to attack. Had to hold myself back by limiting the amount of times I hit it lol
kinda imersion breaking for me  personally lol 

So... It's a preference thing, if you have played and enjoy mostly real-time/action games that require a button to be pushed every time your character / avatar does something, whether those games have been, Street Fighter, Golden Axe, COD whatever, then you get to a game like DA:O and go huh? What's the point? This is boring... I want to have to push buttons.

But if you've mostly played and enjoy games like Baldurs Gate, NWN, Civilizations, DA:O where you're used to setting things up, monitoring what's happening, adjusting as necessary, and you land in the console version of DA2 with auto-attack disabled, you go.. what the heck happened to one of my favourite games!!! This is a button masher! *run away, run away*

I think this accurately captures the phenomena. I for one eagerly look forward to what console play feels like with that holy auto-attack toggle turned on. March 8th, come on!

It could very well be that the new animations are simply too distracting, and combat is too fast for the paradigm of setting things up, monitoring what's happening, adjusting as necessary to feel right in DA2... But we shall see!

Modifié par Mezinger, 27 février 2011 - 01:21 .