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[DPSSOC]

Mesina2 wrote...
5-8 hours game?
Where did you even get the idea that RPG can be THAT short?

I can think of a few RPG's a blew through in that amount of time.  No Bioware RPG's come to mind but a few.

[JamieCOTC]

To be honest, there's not really enough info out there for me to be nervous about. The threat of MP is really the biggest issue for me. Still, there are a few things I could think of that could happen that would make the game totally suck for me.

1. Multiplayer (a deal breaker actually)
2. ME becomes more of a shooter than it already is.
3. Shepard gets sidelined even more in his/her own game.
4. Deus ex machina ending/push "kill button" on Harbinger ending

[ChrisBGoose341]

Multiplayer sounds dumb. But I would think co-op is cool.

[Bigchris4747]

Multiplayer would take away a lot of time and effort that could be put into your single player experience...god i hope they dont have multiplayer

[Aedan_Cousland]

1. That the story could be weak. I.E., the Reapers attack Earth yet Shep still gets air quotes and dismissed claims. An all out attack on the Earth should force a mobilization of the Council species no matter who the enemy is,

2. That the end run will play out like the suicide mission in ME2. In other words, it's not really a suicide mission at all, but easy to get your entire team through, and squad members are lost only when you make tactical or strategic blunders. My hope for ME3 is that you'll lose squadmates even when you do the right thing, or because of it.

3. Multiplayer: While Mass Effect multiplayer could be extremely fun, I don't want to see it in ME3 particularly if it comes at the cost of a quality single player experience. And if multiplyer is added now, only during the final chapter of the series, it is just about guaranteed to detract from the single player experience. Thanks, but no thanks. KEEP MASS EFFECT SINGLE PLAYER.

Multiplayer would take away a lot of time and effort that could be put into your single player experience...god i hope they dont have multiplayer

This needs to be repeated. Words of wisdom Jacob, words of wisdom.

Modifié par Aedan_Cousland, 27 février 2011 - 06:07 .

[88mphSlayer]

i don't want beings of light to swoop in and save the day... sorry no thanks

if that happens i'm totally going to lose the war on purpose

[Sajuro]

Fears:
1: We will lose our squad because some people derped too hard on the suicide mission.
2: It will have the frustratingly long quest-lines of Dragon Age
3: There will be a "Who are the real monsters?" moment.
4: Bioware make some choice back in ME1 the deciding factor of whether we win or lose.
5: We have to gather four orbs of earth fire water and air to go back to when the Reapers first existed, but we can't destroy them because that would frack the time line.

[Corpsetorn]

Biggest fears?

First, and most importantly, GARRUS NOT BEING ON MY SQUAD. I am absolutely terrified that BW may pull a Wrex and put Garrus in some inconsequential "Oh hey, good to see you" role. I need my brodawg on my team to ensure this mission gets completed and that if I die, I can trust that he will carry on in my stead.

Second? Multiplayer. I know there are those who want it, but be realistic. This game is about YOU. Your choices, your actions, your life. Adding a co-op or multiplayer feature would really take away from your central role in the story as the Galaxy's savior. Mass Effect is simply the kind of game entirely engineered with the intent that one person fully immerses themselves in their own unique story.

And let's face it, the ME franchise is massively popular and has far too much content to really believe that it ends with the third game. Sure, it will be the end of Shepard's story, but there are just so many things BW could do with the ME universe in more games. They could put you in the shoes of a Turian beat-cop trying to uncover some big scandal, a Krogan warlord struggling against an invasion, a Salarian STG agent assigned to eliminate some dangerous head of a criminal organization. Hell if the Illusive Man survives the third game you could even play as a Spectre a few years after ME3 assigned to locate and assassinate him, even cooler would be you being allowed to select not only your features but your species as well, given that further games would not have you bound as a human for the purposes of the story. So we could very easily get an ME game in the future designed around a possible co-op or multiplayer scenario, but it just doesn't work with Shepard's story.

[emmanuelsieyes]

I think that ME3 co-op would work, however, only 1 Shepard in the party. One person plays Shepard, the other two play as squadmates. This would make the combat easier (human player >> AI).

There are a few characters I fully expect will be in ME3.

-Liara
-Garrus
-Tali.

BioWare knows that Garrus/Tali have insane amounts of fan support. Garrus/Tali were the only ME1 characters to return. Not only did BioWare bring them back, they made them romance options. Granted, BioWare was quick to dump all of the ME1 romances for ME2, however, I don't think there's going to be a repeat of that (well, at least I hope not).

[Biotic_Warlock]

The ending is going to be a tisse-on-standby situation.
I can feel it.

[UKStory135]

My only fear is that I'm going to be spending half of my time driving a crappy vehicle. The story will be fine, as they are in all Bioware games. I don't agree with the widely held idea here that a good multiplayer and a good single player system are mutually exclusive, so I really don't care if they have it or not.

[danitiwa]

Yeech please no multiplayer. I have a large dislike for RPGs being turned suddenly into MMO's. That's what happened to kotor. It was one of the best RPG series I'd ever played and then they canceled kotor3 and worked on "The Old Republic" instead. Which is just dumb, I can't judge until I've tried it but what I've seen so far just looks like a more squishy version of Star Wars Galaxies.

Also, thousands of Shepards running around at the same time doesn't bode well.

A large fear I have about ME3 is that they'll replace the mako, probes and hammerhead with something even worse or just as bad and boring. I play ME because it's awesome, well written, immersive and epic. Launching probes doesn't really signify any of those. I play for plot and side missions mostly. I like watching Shepard kick ass and serve justice, or hear squad mates banter. I'd much rather do that for hours than drag my cursor across a god forsaken planet or drive across impossibly steep terrain with nothing interesting on it for thirty kilometers. I ended up just skipping a lot of planet scanning and just clicking each and then closing it afterwards unless I needed resources or EDI found an anomaly. So basically, not my cup of tea.

Modifié par danitiwa, 28 février 2011 - 11:08 .

[Corpsetorn]

Also, thousands of Shepards running around at the same time doesn't bode well.

"Shepard" "Shepard" "Commander Shepard" "Shepard" "Commander" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Commander Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Spectre" "Shepard" "Commander" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Commander Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Spectre" "Shepard" "Shepard Commander" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Spectre" "Shepard" "Shepard Commander" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Commander Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Commander" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Commander Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard"

"ENOUGH! I HAVE A FIRST NAME!"

Modifié par Corpsetorn, 28 février 2011 - 11:07 .

[danitiwa]

Corpsetorn wrote...

Also, thousands of Shepards running around at the same time doesn't bode well.

"Shepard" "Shepard" "Commander Shepard" "Shepard" "Commander" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Commander Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Spectre" "Shepard" "Commander" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Commander Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Spectre" "Shepard" "Shepard Commander" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Spectre" "Shepard" "Shepard Commander" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Commander Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Commander" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Commander Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard"

"ENOUGH! I HAVE A FIRST NAME!"

Hahahaha, this.

NPC:"HEY SHEPARD COME HERE" 
*fifty different Shepards run towards NPC for mission initiation*

---
Now for SRS. If they do multiplayer I hope they do it well, Bioware might want to consider doing something similar to what Ubisoft did for Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood, where the multiplayer bits don't involve Ezio at all, but you can play that as much as you want and still have an amazing full length single player game on the side with all your favorite characters returning.

Modifié par danitiwa, 28 février 2011 - 11:12 .

[Biotic_Warlock]

danitiwa wrote...

Corpsetorn wrote...

Also, thousands of Shepards running around at the same time doesn't bode well.

"Shepard" "Shepard" "Commander Shepard" "Shepard" "Commander" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Commander Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Spectre" "Shepard" "Commander" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Commander Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Spectre" "Shepard" "Shepard Commander" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Spectre" "Shepard" "Shepard Commander" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Commander Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Commander" "Shepard" "Shepard" "Commander Shepard" "Shepard" "Shepard"

"ENOUGH! I HAVE A FIRST NAME!"

Hahahaha, this.

NPC:"HEY SHEPARD COME HERE" 
*fifty different Shepards run towards NPC for mission initiation*

Would ve fun to use the cain in this scene... shoot it once and half the sheps die.
(i once killed myself with it... well that was the first ever time i used it)

[UKStory135]

danitiwa wrote...

A large fear I have about ME3 is that they'll replace the mako, probes and hammerhead with something even worse or just as bad and boring. I play ME because it's awesome, well written, immersive and epic. Launching probes doesn't really signify any of those. I play for plot and side missions mostly. I like watching Shepard kick ass and serve justice, or hear squad mates banter. I'd much rather do that for hours than drag my cursor across a god forsaken planet or drive across impossibly steep terrain with nothing interesting on it for thirty kilometers. I ended up just skipping a lot of planet scanning and just clicking each and then closing it afterwards unless I needed resources or EDI found an anomaly. So basically, not my cup of tea.

I agree, I'd rather the game only be about 20 hours of quality missions, conversations, and, equipping than see a 45 hour game where half of it is spent mining, hiding behind a rock and jumping while I shoot poorly guided missles, or jumping impossible terrain in a vehicle that could barely handle well on flat terrain.

[I will kill you both]

So everybody here hates the idea of multiplayer for ME3? Good we don't need it.

[Iakus]

My biggest fear is that previous games will be irrelevent.  I mean, ME 2 and subsequent comics seem to be doing their best to make ME 1 disappear.  I fear ME 3 will do the same to ME 2 and finish the job on ME 1

"Shiala?  Shiala who?"

A second fear is that there will be no more main story, that the Reapers will just be some kind of background threat while Shepard wanders the galaxy killing mercs, geth, or whatever, rather than dealing with the threat to all life in the galaxy.  In the end, it'll be some kind of quick-fix, deus ex machina that saves us all.

A third fear is that ME3 will hold onto this comic-book style "needs more awesome" I've been seeing lately.  Spandex-wearing super-soldiers, kinetic barriers=force fields, "if less is more, then more is even better".

  I also fear we'll be saddled with another bunch of emotionally crippled bad****es.  This time around, I want a squad that knows the score, and is behind me from the start.  A squad of courage, determination and self-sacrifice.  I don't need "the best of the best of the best, with honors!" I need a sqad fighting for something bigger than themselves, bigger than the team.  Even bigger than Shepard. 

"It's easy to find something worth dying for.  Do you have anything worth living for?"

I fear we'll never get closure on some big questions.  Where did the Reapers come from?  Why do they take the forms they do?  What kind of technology was the Lazarus Project and how did Cerberus get it?  What's with this whole "genetic diversity" in humans?  What's with TIM's eyes anyway?

Somewhere near the bottom of the pile I fear we'll get saddled with multiplayer.  But really, that's a tiny concern compared to others I have.

[Foehunter82]

I really don't think they'll tack on a MP for ME3. I could be wrong. However, I'm not anti-MP. I just think that if they're going to take a multiplayer approach to the Mass Effect universe, they should just focus it on a fourth Mass Effect multiplayer game. If they bring MP into ME3, there is the legitimate chance that the rest of the game will suffer as a result.

[Rekkampum]

iakus wrote...

My biggest fear is that previous games will be irrelevent.  I mean, ME 2 and subsequent comics seem to be doing their best to make ME 1 disappear.  I fear ME 3 will do the same to ME 2 and finish the job on ME 1

"Shiala?  Shiala who?"

A second fear is that there will be no more main story, that the Reapers will just be some kind of background threat while Shepard wanders the galaxy killing mercs, geth, or whatever, rather than dealing with the threat to all life in the galaxy.  In the end, it'll be some kind of quick-fix, deus ex machina that saves us all.

A third fear is that ME3 will hold onto this comic-book style "needs more awesome" I've been seeing lately.  Spandex-wearing super-soldiers, kinetic barriers=force fields, "if less is more, then more is even better".

  I also fear we'll be saddled with another bunch of emotionally crippled bad****es.  This time around, I want a squad that knows the score, and is behind me from the start.  A squad of courage, determination and self-sacrifice.  I don't need "the best of the best of the best, with honors!" I need a sqad fighting for something bigger than themselves, bigger than the team.  Even bigger than Shepard. 

"It's easy to find something worth dying for.  Do you have anything worth living for?"

I fear we'll never get closure on some big questions.  Where did the Reapers come from?  Why do they take the forms they do?  What kind of technology was the Lazarus Project and how did Cerberus get it?  What's with this whole "genetic diversity" in humans?  What's with TIM's eyes anyway?

Somewhere near the bottom of the pile I fear we'll get saddled with multiplayer.  But really, that's a tiny concern compared to others I have.

I have the sinking suspicion that we'll get some crazy plot twist ala Assassin's Creed and the story of the Reapers will be even stranger than before. I'm guessing though, that after you defeat the Reapers - if you do? - there will possibly be tons of missions you can still do. Or, maybe the whole teaser trailer shows events that happen much later in the game than we expect. 

I want to see some planets blown to smithereens. Preferably Earth, for dramatic effect.

[Corpsetorn]

ONE WORD: ELETANIA

[Pwener2313]

Corpsetorn wrote...

ONE WORD: ELETANIA

An easter egg and the source of Shepard's memory resurrection in Project Lazarus. I doubt it's anything more.

[Corpsetorn]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Corpsetorn wrote...

ONE WORD: ELETANIA

An easter egg and the source of Shepard's memory resurrection in Project Lazarus. I doubt it's anything more.

I don't know about that... one of the event flags from the ME1 to ME2 transfer is finding and unlocking the ruin. If it were just an easter egg I don't see why it'd be marked.

[TheShogunOfHarlem]

[quote]Mesina2 wrote...

[quote]TheShogunOfHarlem wrote...

 As excited as I am about ME3 there are some worrying thoughts that creep into my head. Now I don't have sky high, unattainable expectations for ME3 unless you find these expectations high:
- 40+ hours of gameplay.
- A strong non-linear open-ended story.
- No Multiplayer. (or a strictly optional MP)[/quote]

What do you mean by that?
Isn't multiplayer optional in every game that has both Singleplayer and Multiplayer?

Also ME3 with multiplayer is not an option.
Spin off games are welcomed.
[/quote]No. When you are purchasing a game that has a multiplayer element you are buying the total package. You can't opt out of Multiplayer and get a discount. It's yours whether you want it or not. As far as MP in ME3 goes, it remains to be seen whether or not it will be incorporated.

[quote]
Wasn't reason of cancellation of sequel poor sales?
Also game had no multiplayer and VERY short singleplayer.
Poor example.[quote]
Partly: 

Here's an exerpt:

[quote]Late last year, EA boss Frank Gibeau commented on the lackluster reception garnered by the original game: “There were issues with the learning curve, the difficulty, the narrative, and then there was no multiplayer either.”
[/quote]Now I am sure that you should at least know of Frank Gibeau's opinion of SP gaming. He basically said that SP is dead. So yeah I have no use for someone like that anywhere near a Bioware game.

[quote]
Multiplayer in ME3 is highly possible to be fake one.
No RPG game ever had a multiplayer, unless it's a MMO but that's a different story.
[quote] Perhaps


[quote]I'm fine with 30 hours, but more the merrier.[/quote] It's more than just length of gameplay, it's content and substance. If a 30+ hour game is very linear in story and overall gameplay layout is an incredibly dull experience. 


[quote]
5-8 hours game?
Where did you even get the idea that RPG can be THAT short?
[/quote]It was a joke!! That's why I placed it under unreasonable fears. I don't Honestly think that it would happen in spite of whether or not Frank Gibeau has any say in ME3's development.

[Corpsetorn]

Let's put it plainly: we aren't going to get multiplayer.

Why is there always some big uproar about multiplayer every time an rpg sequel is released that has no history of having or even mentioning multiplayer? People were freaking out about Elder Scrolls V being an MMO, and what do you know? It isn't.

Bioware has never once said they'd actually like to introduce multiplayer to Mass Effect. And they have always remained intent on presenting Shepard's story as a solo experience. Now who knows, perhaps an ME game further down the line outside of Shepard's story may introduce it, but it's not happening with this one.

Modifié par Corpsetorn, 01 mars 2011 - 12:40 .