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[Azorgamer]

Personally my greatest fear is the chance that my Shepard will have to die to "save the universe". Don't get me wrong, I don't mind if that is ONE of the ending. But I want an ending where Shepard survives with out having to do something weird.
"Yes Shepard, you may live but first you must sleep with Morrigan so that she may have your god baby who may come back to DESTROY THE UNIVERSE, but hey, you'll totally survive."
O.k., o.k., Morrigan is in another game but you get my point. Shepard survives and is pretty much the freakin hero of the galaxy - that's the ending I want to happen. Last thing I want if for Shepard to survive because of something ridiculous - ala, Dragon Age Origins. And I definitely do not want him to die - my Shepards each did that once in the beginning of ME2 and they all found it not to their liking.

Modifié par Azorgamer, 01 mars 2011 - 12:42 .

[ty5731]

Volus Warlord wrote...

If the ending sucks, it will ruin the entirely trilogy for me. I would like a powerful and original ending to Shepard's story.

i happen to agree with you. it would destroy it. make me very sad. haha. oh, and imagine this..you know how they said 3 would be the end? imagine if they made a surprise announcement or hint at the ending of a ME4? sure, they'd have juked us all, but a good juke, in my opinion.

[Corpsetorn]

ty5731 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

If the ending sucks, it will ruin the entirely trilogy for me. I would like a powerful and original ending to Shepard's story.

i happen to agree with you. it would destroy it. make me very sad. haha. oh, and imagine this..you know how they said 3 would be the end? imagine if they made a surprise announcement or hint at the ending of a ME4? sure, they'd have juked us all, but a good juke, in my opinion.

I would not mind this one bit.  But if that's the case, let 3 be the end of the reaper threat. Bring something else to the table you know? I mean I don't know what could outdo the epicness of a battle against sentient machines billions of years old, but why does it have to? Hell (can I say hell here?) I think half of us simply play the games because we LOVE the immersive world that Bioware has plopped us into. It's the first sci fi space drama form of media that you don't feel like a geek for doting over, and not only that, the ME universe is vastly superior to Star Wars/Trek in terms of realism, grittyness, and emotional investment.

[Foehunter82]

ty5731 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

If the ending sucks, it will ruin the entirely trilogy for me. I would like a powerful and original ending to Shepard's story.

i happen to agree with you. it would destroy it. make me very sad. haha. oh, and imagine this..you know how they said 3 would be the end? imagine if they made a surprise announcement or hint at the ending of a ME4? sure, they'd have juked us all, but a good juke, in my opinion.

Something like this?

The last Reaper explodes sending a shockwave that destroys everything in it's path.  The SR2 streaks away valiantly.  All over the galaxy, celebrations and cheering erupt from every ship, city, and command center.  Later, Shepard is publicly award the Savior of the Galaxy medallion.  The game ends as Shepard looks up to the stars, wondering what fate has in store for him next.  As the camera pans away, deeper and deeper into space, the stars vanish from the screen.  A single, solitary Reaper manuevers through Dark Space towards a new Collector Base.  The camera pans around to reveal a new Reaper, fully grown, coming online.

EDIT:  I happen to agree with the above post.  To add to his suggestion, we've heard so much about all these other races that were supposedly wiped out by the Reapers, and there's supposedly no trace of them.  Is it possible that evidence of their existence just hasn't surfaced yet?  What if the next threat isn't actually from the Milky Way, but from another galaxy all together?

Modifié par Foehunter82, 01 mars 2011 - 01:12 .

[Whatever42]

OMG... what if there are ewoks in ME3?!? And they defeat the Reapers with rocks and spears and their devestating cuteness!

[AdmiralCheez]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

OMG... what if there are ewoks in ME3?!? And they defeat the Reapers with rocks and spears and their devestating cuteness!

I'd buy the game twice if that happened, just to salute the most epic case of professional trolling ever.

[Barbarossa2010]

Well, to me there's a lot of story left in the Mass Effect universe.  Prequels, sub-plots, other characters to play; hell there's a whole galaxy out there that we've only seen a miniscule portion of.  I don't think they'll let the ME universe, as well developed as it is getting, just die on the vine. They're very likely looking at a franchise to rival Star Wars, and in that, they have a pretty good start.  Would be a shame to waste all that potential.

As far as fears go, Shepard being pigeon-holed into a plot that demands his death is BS.  It's OK if it is one option, sort of like the Suicide Mission as a result of making terrible decisions throughout, but to me it's way over done and Dragon Age is a depressing enough franchise for any one company.  So, no to a dead Shepard without some recourse to letting him survive.
Multiplayer:  No co-op within the story, is my only demand, or fear if you prefer.  Co-op within the story wouldn't work anyway (no pause combat, dialgoue would be a significant issue), so I suppose I'm not really worried about it happening.

ME4, or even a large DLC pack, could be developed and released later with competitive multiplayer (team death match) where pause combat would not be an option, or even expected.  Some players would have to get used to real time combat with basic powers quick mapped.  Choosing your character/class would be sort of fun, but it needs to be a stand alone product that doesn't detract from the current trilogy in the least.  Also co-op "horde-type" levels would not be all that difficult to design and would allow casual gamers to play with friends against pre-set AI difficulties.  So MP has a place, I just hope it's removed from proximity of the trilogy of Shepard's story.

Having said that, and back on the fears theme, if they do go the MP route (like I said, long after the trilogy is complete), I hope they have a team dedicated to it that knows what they're doing (might want to hire it out to Epic to develop, just to make sure), and don't release a piece of s#i+ to check the EA multiplayer box, which only turns off the very audience they are attempting to target.  Game play in story and gameplay in MP are two very different things and if they can't recreate the feel of the in-game experience in MP, it will not be played for long and will only end up being a wasted effort which could set the franchise back.  So if they do it, I hope they do it well.

Modifié par Barbarossa2010, 01 mars 2011 - 01:40 .

[Corpsetorn]

@ Barbarossa.

Prequels simply won't work. I'd love to fight in the First Contact War just for the background info, but to do that would mean a one-track progression. No choices, no real involvement beyond mission objectives. ME is the kind of universe... like real life... that can only move forward, since the past cannot be changed.

[nevar00]

Just some fears....

- ME 2 squadmates won't return as squadmates
- the majority of the game takes place on Earth
- you actions from the past few games end up having little consequence (just end up with an email or something again)
- the Reapers will be completely minimized and will not be as powerful as Soverign was
- stuff just flat out not making sense... like not being able to even mention Akuze to TIM!

I don't really care much whether or not we get multiplayer. I think it's a waste though and if it means adding in multiplayer at the expense of working on the story some more, then screw it.

Modifié par nevar00, 01 mars 2011 - 01:54 .

[Corpsetorn]

Foehunter82 wrote...

ty5731 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

If the ending sucks, it will ruin the entirely trilogy for me. I would like a powerful and original ending to Shepard's story.

i happen to agree with you. it would destroy it. make me very sad. haha. oh, and imagine this..you know how they said 3 would be the end? imagine if they made a surprise announcement or hint at the ending of a ME4? sure, they'd have juked us all, but a good juke, in my opinion.

Something like this?

The last Reaper explodes sending a shockwave that destroys everything in it's path.  The SR2 streaks away valiantly.  All over the galaxy, celebrations and cheering erupt from every ship, city, and command center.  Later, Shepard is publicly award the Savior of the Galaxy medallion.  The game ends as Shepard looks up to the stars, wondering what fate has in store for him next.  As the camera pans away, deeper and deeper into space, the stars vanish from the screen.  A single, solitary Reaper manuevers through Dark Space towards a new Collector Base.  The camera pans around to reveal a new Reaper, fully grown, coming online.

EDIT:  I happen to agree with the above post.  To add to his suggestion, we've heard so much about all these other races that were supposedly wiped out by the Reapers, and there's supposedly no trace of them.  Is it possible that evidence of their existence just hasn't surfaced yet?  What if the next threat isn't actually from the Milky Way, but from another galaxy all together?

After ME3, I hope to be done with the reapers. Unless they do a part  and part 2, which I wouldn't have a problem with as long as the games were long and involved. In fact, I'd almost prefer that. They could tell the final chapter over a 100+ hour story.

[snakeboy86]

i would HATE for the single player be ruined by a tacked on multiplayer...not every game needs multiplayer you know

[Pwener2313]

Did somebody say MP? MP ftw!!!

[Barbarossa2010]

Corpsetorn wrote...

@ Barbarossa.

Prequels simply won't work. I'd love to fight in the First Contact War just for the background info, but to do that would mean a one-track progression. No choices, no real involvement beyond mission objectives. ME is the kind of universe... like real life... that can only move forward, since the past cannot be changed.

Yeah, you might be right on that one, there would be a loss of player agency, but parallel stories would work and playing into the future..well I suppose, the imagination is the limit there (perhaps even centuries into the future where we look back and always remember the human who saved us way back when).  I always keep thinking when I look at the Galactic map, how many species are still out there that may have not yet found a relay, not to mention, how many worlds there are to discover.  Still seems like a lot of stories to tell. 

Either way, if they determine that Mass Effect is only Shepard's story, I suppose I could find satisfaction in that also.

Modifié par Barbarossa2010, 01 mars 2011 - 01:59 .

[nevar00]

iakus wrote...

My biggest fear is that previous games will be irrelevent.  I mean, ME 2 and subsequent comics seem to be doing their best to make ME 1 disappear.  I fear ME 3 will do the same to ME 2 and finish the job on ME 1

"Shiala?  Shiala who?"

A second fear is that there will be no more main story, that the Reapers will just be some kind of background threat while Shepard wanders the galaxy killing mercs, geth, or whatever, rather than dealing with the threat to all life in the galaxy.  In the end, it'll be some kind of quick-fix, deus ex machina that saves us all.

A third fear is that ME3 will hold onto this comic-book style "needs more awesome" I've been seeing lately.  Spandex-wearing super-soldiers, kinetic barriers=force fields, "if less is more, then more is even better".

  I also fear we'll be saddled with another bunch of emotionally crippled bad****es.  This time around, I want a squad that knows the score, and is behind me from the start.  A squad of courage, determination and self-sacrifice.  I don't need "the best of the best of the best, with honors!" I need a sqad fighting for something bigger than themselves, bigger than the team.  Even bigger than Shepard. 

"It's easy to find something worth dying for.  Do you have anything worth living for?"

I fear we'll never get closure on some big questions.  Where did the Reapers come from?  Why do they take the forms they do?  What kind of technology was the Lazarus Project and how did Cerberus get it?  What's with this whole "genetic diversity" in humans?  What's with TIM's eyes anyway?

Somewhere near the bottom of the pile I fear we'll get saddled with multiplayer.  But really, that's a tiny concern compared to others I have.

Personally, I'd rather not learn anything about how the Reapers came to be: I like the explanation that they just always were.  It adds to the mystery.  Besides, if we were to get an answer it would probably be some stupid twist like TIM being a 10 billion year old warlock who created the Reapers and then time traveled to save the galaxy from them and take over the universe.  Or some guy named Bob did it... I really don't see where they could go with this.

...or even worse, they'll have the 'light' Creators who created the Reapers come back to save the day... *shudders*

[Corpsetorn]

Barbarossa2010 wrote...

Corpsetorn wrote...

@ Barbarossa.

Prequels simply won't work. I'd love to fight in the First Contact War just for the background info, but to do that would mean a one-track progression. No choices, no real involvement beyond mission objectives. ME is the kind of universe... like real life... that can only move forward, since the past cannot be changed.

Yeah, you might be right on that one, there would be a loss of player agency, but parallel stories would work and playing into the future..well I suppose, the imagination is the limit there (perhaps even centuries into the future where we look back and always remember the human who saved us way back when).  I always keep thinking when I look at the Galactic map, how many species are still out there that may have not yet found a relay, not to mention, how many worlds there are to discover.  Still seems like a lot of stories to tell. 

Either way, if they determine that Mass Effect is only Shepard's story, I suppose I could find satisfaction in that also.

I couldn't. The ME universe is far too expansive and unexplored. I couldn't be satisfied ending the entirety of the existence around him with his story. Bioware HAS to realize how much money they could make off further titles, and I for one am not ashamed in the slightest that I would gladly buy them. Hell, I have all of the novels, the Redemption hardcover collective, the first art book (which I had to buy used, luckily in mint condition, for 70 freaking bucks) and the second art book. I don't buy any of their citchy gear, but I am more than happy to by any content related to the actual universe.

[Corpsetorn]

Also, I know it's off topic. But does anyone know how to upload custom avatars? I have this badass pic of Garrus I've been dying to use.

[The Unfallen]

iCanHearTheScreaming wrote...

GodWood wrote...

My personal fears/Do not wants
~ Sh*tty story
~ Old characters sidelined for more darker, edgier characters
~ Retcons
~ Multiplayer
~ Even more streamlining
~ Sh*tty cameos
~ Happy, fairy tale endings
~ Paragon to still equal 'I Win'
~ Old romances being pushed aside for new ones

You do realize that the canon Shepard is renegade in virtually every choice? Just sayin...

And I agree with you on the ending. I appreciate a happy ending, but a story is all the better for a well-executed sad ending. They've supposedly said they're going to end it on a light note though.

No, canon Shepard is Neutral.

[I will kill you both]

Corpsetorn wrote...

Also, I know it's off topic. But does anyone know how to upload custom avatars? I have this badass pic of Garrus I've been dying to use.

You have to please the mods...













jk no idea...

[Corpsetorn]

Lol.

[ty5731]

Corpsetorn wrote...

ty5731 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

If the ending sucks, it will ruin the entirely trilogy for me. I would like a powerful and original ending to Shepard's story.

i happen to agree with you. it would destroy it. make me very sad. haha. oh, and imagine this..you know how they said 3 would be the end? imagine if they made a surprise announcement or hint at the ending of a ME4? sure, they'd have juked us all, but a good juke, in my opinion.

I would not mind this one bit.  But if that's the case, let 3 be the end of the reaper threat. Bring something else to the table you know? I mean I don't know what could outdo the epicness of a battle against sentient machines billions of years old, but why does it have to? Hell (can I say hell here?) I think half of us simply play the games because we LOVE the immersive world that Bioware has plopped us into. It's the first sci fi space drama form of media that you don't feel like a geek for doting over, and not only that, the ME universe is vastly superior to Star Wars/Trek in terms of realism, grittyness, and emotional investment.

yeah man! something all new and unexpected...or an old entity coming back to haunt you, sort of thing. like...personally, i would enjoy it if something came up, and Shep started getting haunted by visions of Sovereign (or another reaper, like Harbinger) and have his voice in his head. something like that. but that's just my opinion. as for the new and unexpected part, have something like an alien come from an uncharted part of the galaxy, or a new one altogether. something like that, ya know? and yes, it iss even better than SW or ST. by far.

Modifié par ty5731, 01 mars 2011 - 03:11 .

[ty5731]

Foehunter82 wrote...

ty5731 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

If the ending sucks, it will ruin the entirely trilogy for me. I would like a powerful and original ending to Shepard's story.

i happen to agree with you. it would destroy it. make me very sad. haha. oh, and imagine this..you know how they said 3 would be the end? imagine if they made a surprise announcement or hint at the ending of a ME4? sure, they'd have juked us all, but a good juke, in my opinion.

Something like this?

The last Reaper explodes sending a shockwave that destroys everything in it's path.  The SR2 streaks away valiantly.  All over the galaxy, celebrations and cheering erupt from every ship, city, and command center.  Later, Shepard is publicly award the Savior of the Galaxy medallion.  The game ends as Shepard looks up to the stars, wondering what fate has in store for him next.  As the camera pans away, deeper and deeper into space, the stars vanish from the screen.  A single, solitary Reaper manuevers through Dark Space towards a new Collector Base.  The camera pans around to reveal a new Reaper, fully grown, coming online.

EDIT:  I happen to agree with the above post.  To add to his suggestion, we've heard so much about all these other races that were supposedly wiped out by the Reapers, and there's supposedly no trace of them.  Is it possible that evidence of their existence just hasn't surfaced yet?  What if the next threat isn't actually from the Milky Way, but from another galaxy all together?

hmmm. maybe. that seems good. or they could introduce even bigger, better Reapers, but them with a different goal in mind. not wiping out the galaxy's organic life, but something else. as for the Collector base, the Collectors could note their bretheren's extinction from the face of the galactic core, but these Collectors are stronger, better, faster, etc. or could just be Protheans that nobody knew about, hidden away.. they come back. something like that. but your idea seems pretty good

[Corpsetorn]

ty5731 wrote...

Corpsetorn wrote...

ty5731 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

If the ending sucks, it will ruin the entirely trilogy for me. I would like a powerful and original ending to Shepard's story.

i happen to agree with you. it would destroy it. make me very sad. haha. oh, and imagine this..you know how they said 3 would be the end? imagine if they made a surprise announcement or hint at the ending of a ME4? sure, they'd have juked us all, but a good juke, in my opinion.

I would not mind this one bit.  But if that's the case, let 3 be the end of the reaper threat. Bring something else to the table you know? I mean I don't know what could outdo the epicness of a battle against sentient machines billions of years old, but why does it have to? Hell (can I say hell here?) I think half of us simply play the games because we LOVE the immersive world that Bioware has plopped us into. It's the first sci fi space drama form of media that you don't feel like a geek for doting over, and not only that, the ME universe is vastly superior to Star Wars/Trek in terms of realism, grittyness, and emotional investment.

yeah man! something all new and unexpected...or an old entity coming back to haunt you, sort of thing. like...personally, i would enjoy it if something came up, and Shep started getting haunted by visions of Sovereign (or another reaper, like Harbinger) and have his voice in his head. something like that. but that's just my opinion. as for the new and unexpected part, have something like an alien come from an uncharted part of the galaxy, or a new one altogether. something like that, ya know? and yes, it iss even better than SW or ST. by far.

When the reapers are gone, I want them gone.

If there is an ME4 with Shep, I want something like, a group of Yahg have discovered the remnants of an entire Prothean society and are reverse enginerring the tech to conquer the galaxy. Something explainable but believable, yet engaging.

[nevar00]

Everything is going to look pretty subpar though compared to a race of evil spaceships that destroy all life. They'd have to come up with something equally as epic to continue Shepard's story (if that was what they were going to do). Or if they plan on making the trilogy a... quad-ogy (??) I would have no complaints about that either, as long as it doesn't feel dragged out.

[Iakus]

nevar00 wrote...
Personally, I'd rather not learn anything about how the Reapers came to be: I like the explanation that they just always were.  It adds to the mystery.  Besides, if we were to get an answer it would probably be some stupid twist like TIM being a 10 billion year old warlock who created the Reapers and then time traveled to save the galaxy from them and take over the universe.  Or some guy named Bob did it... I really don't see where they could go with this.

...or even worse, they'll have the 'light' Creators who created the Reapers come back to save the day... *shudders*

Granted a bad explanation may be worse than none at all (See Shepard's reasons on Horizon for not contacting the VS) but I still want to see some sort of reason.  Even a legend of questionable veracity (like DA's Blackened City and the darkspawn) Something besides "They were here.  Now they're not.  Thanks Shepard!"

[Fiery Phoenix]

RE: Reapers and ME3

In this interview, Ray says something about Shepard going to the Reaper place of origin/homeworld at some point in ME3. Watch towards the end. Something like "...and the Reapers are coming from somewhere, so you're probably gonna have to check that out too."

Now, we know the Reapers aren't even from here, so are we, you know, going to have to leave the Milky Way to end this?