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@Diokletian600 - Not necessarily. The Rachni are hatched from eggs, much I'd suspect like a ant-hive, if that is the case, in two years there would be a LOT of Rachni compared to their start of 1. I agree about the Krogan though, since even if they had the cure in ME2, there just woujldn't be enough time for them to build their numbers back up to any significance.

Also, the Rachni seem to have built up enough of an infrastructure since they repaired the ship the Asari messenger crashed in and the news reports about sightings of Rachni ships as well....

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This is what will happen:


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I see, thanks for the info! Then I guess my point about there not being many Rachni is not valid.

However, I still have doubts about them being able to build a fleet. Sure, they were able to repair a ship and there have been reports of sightings of Rachni ships, but you must keep in mind that until recently the queen was locked in the facility on Noveria, so even after getting out she can only do so much. They seem to have been able to build up an infrastructure of some sorts, but building a few ships is not the same as getting an entire fleet. Especially since for now they would still have to maintain the illusion of the Rachni being extinct in order to avoid an outside intervention until they are ready to reveal themselves.

That said, I say they might have better chance of doing something of substance than the krogans. I expect some krogan warriors fighting, but nothing coming close to a fleet. That said, I do wonder how the krogans would react to the Rachni returning again to the galactic stage, not to mention the Council. After all, while it is implied that the Rachni were indoctrinated, even if we assume that this is the the truth (and the Rachni aren't out to screw us over), the Council races and the krogans do not know that. Of course, if common sense prevails they will postpone dealing with all these conflicts until the Reapers are beaten, but that does not always occur.

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Diokletian600 wrote...


That said, I say they might have better chance of doing something of substance than the krogans. I expect some krogan warriors fighting, but nothing coming close to a fleet. That said, I do wonder how the krogans would react to the Rachni returning again to the galactic stage, not to mention the Council. After all, while it is implied that the Rachni were indoctrinated, even if we assume that this is the the truth (and the Rachni aren't out to screw us over), the Council races and the krogans do not know that. Of course, if common sense prevails they will postpone dealing with all these conflicts until the Reapers are beaten, but that does not always occur.


The council doesnt seem smart enough to do something like that.

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I have a feeling Zulu will come into this thread soon and tell everyone why the Rachni won't play any part in ME 3 and ruin everyones fun. >:(

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Shhhhh. Don't say his name. That draws his attention to you.

Say "the Dark One" instead.

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Alaric123 wrote...

They will try and Fail, Epicly. Like bugs on the windscreen.

Legion comes to a injured Rachni and says. Your services are no longer required.:devil:

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jbblue05 wrote...

The Rachni Queen isn't the last Rachni

If you paid attention in ME1 the Rachni are all over the Styx Theta Cluster because of the Cerberus experiments


The Cerberus Rachni didn't include queens and and the equivalent of the insane, in human society, since they were raised away from their mother and with no connection to her. Even if left alone they would eventually die out since they don't have any reproductive ability. Only Queens can reproduce.

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Its obvious whats going to happen. Krogans will Ride the Rachni into battle in ME3 Ultimately Pwning everything in their way.

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stu117 wrote...

Its obvious whats going to happen. Krogans will Ride the Rachni into battle in ME3 Ultimately Pwning everything in their way.


All jokes aside, would they not just shoot them in the back of the Head? Red Dead Redemption anyone?

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nope

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Diokletian600 wrote...

I see, thanks for the info! Then I guess my point about there not being many Rachni is not valid.

However, I still have doubts about them being able to build a fleet. Sure, they were able to repair a ship and there have been reports of sightings of Rachni ships, but you must keep in mind that until recently the queen was locked in the facility on Noveria, so even after getting out she can only do so much. They seem to have been able to build up an infrastructure of some sorts, but building a few ships is not the same as getting an entire fleet. Especially since for now they would still have to maintain the illusion of the Rachni being extinct in order to avoid an outside intervention until they are ready to reveal themselves.

That said, I say they might have better chance of doing something of substance than the krogans. I expect some krogan warriors fighting, but nothing coming close to a fleet. That said, I do wonder how the krogans would react to the Rachni returning again to the galactic stage, not to mention the Council. After all, while it is implied that the Rachni were indoctrinated, even if we assume that this is the the truth (and the Rachni aren't out to screw us over), the Council races and the krogans do not know that. Of course, if common sense prevails they will postpone dealing with all these conflicts until the Reapers are beaten, but that does not always occur.

I don't think that it is too much to hope that the Rachni have a few fleets by now. They breed incredibly fast, I'd bet significantly faster than Krogan. And even if that is not the case they would make for invaluable ground troops. As for the Council and other races, well the Rachni have apparently been helping people, and with backing from Shepard I don't think anyone would refuse their help. I'm sure some will take issue but I doubt anyone will resort to openly attacking them.

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go check this video. If you see this you see that the queen has no harm but only wants to fight the darkness and the darkness is the reapers.


queen is born after the war as it has its own will..
The rachni are good, mean the speechies no harm. The wanna live and have atoned for the chrimes in the past. Like the quirians and the geth. speechies that are missunderstood.
What im getting off all this is that all speechies are rulling on each other. Krogen - salarians - rachni - quarians - turians - assari.
In mass effect 3 sheppard is going to unite a galaxy. Shepard is a spectra - humans on the councel - rachni saved - cure for geno for the krogen - geth army that fights for freedom same with qurians with im sure the will life with each other on 1 planet  - man oh man... its going to be judge... fingerlicking french fries tomato ketchup :P
Trust me lads.. be nice to everybody because you are going to need it..........

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Dexi wrote...

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I believe they need to have a significant part otherwise it really shouldn't of impacted if you saved the queen or not. .


Then can you please tell me WHAT should have an impact on the game? Because I'm getting that line a lot, really. 
 
To fit their argumentations, people say it to the point in which, after their minds, nothing should have a significant impact. 

And here I was listening to other people crying that no ME decisions has a real impact later on ME2 ( and possibly ME3). 


Let's see:

1. Destroying the heretics or rewriting them. Could impact Geth trust in organics.
2. Killing Wrex or not on Virmire. Could effect allegience of krogans.
3. Saving the Rachni queen or killing her. Affects allied factions in ME3.
4. No idea on Conrad Verner. I never completed that questline.

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I expect she'll show up at some point and try and help you. No idea how though. Also I can't imagine her being much use against the Reapers... and same with the Krogan. Both species seem more like ground force units, so I guess they can fight the Heretics and whatever else the Reapers have, but that isn't going to be much help really.

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nevar00 wrote...

I expect she'll show up at some point and try and help you. No idea how though. Also I can't imagine her being much use against the Reapers... and same with the Krogan. Both species seem more like ground force units, so I guess they can fight the Heretics and whatever else the Reapers have, but that isn't going to be much help really.

I think that the Rachni Queen will be of much more help than we may yet realize. It has been suggested that the Rachni were all Indoctrinated at some point. What if the Queens mother and by extention herself know something about Indoctrination that others don't? How did they escape when the rest of their race were bent towards the Reapers will? Perhaps the Rachni will provide the answer for which the galaxy can fight the Reapers greatest weapon. Just a theory.

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So what about the future of the Rachni? Can they continue as a species with only one Queen? We know very little about how they reproduce. The Queen can give birth without mating but can she birth more queens? If she is faced with mortal danger in ME3 would it be wise to risk lives and resources to save her?

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The rachni are a perfect example of how bioware took classic sci-fi and created an amazing universe with it. For anyone who has read Orson Scott Card's Ender's Game and Speaker for the dead series than the Rachni's story is incredibly familiar, its almost identical except the rachni were far more violent but the ending is the same. The formics or buggers of Card's universe are reduced to a single queen who is finally allowed to regrow the species and ends up really saving every one's asses, so if bioware is using the same ideas than saving the Rachni queen is a very good idea.

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Louisimo wrote...

The rachni are a perfect example of how bioware took classic sci-fi and created an amazing universe with it. For anyone who has read Orson Scott Card's Ender's Game and Speaker for the dead series than the Rachni's story is incredibly familiar, its almost identical except the rachni were far more violent but the ending is the same. The formics or buggers of Card's universe are reduced to a single queen who is finally allowed to regrow the species and ends up really saving every one's asses, so if bioware is using the same ideas than saving the Rachni queen is a very good idea.

I think so too. The galaxy can only benefit from the Rachni returning. I cannot think of many downsides considering that the Rachni were apparently indoctrinated by the Reapers. It's also nice to see another non-humanoid alien.

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I'm hoping that the Rachni take down plenty of Heretics, Husks, etc. I want them to go planetside and not just be another group of ships in the big space battle that's inevitably coming. I'd love to see them ripping up the Reaper's ground forces. They've got acid spit and they crawl around in ventilation ducts. Buggers/Aliens and they're now your homies.....that better pay off in some epic cutscenery.

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Bloggers99 wrote...

I'm hoping that the Rachni take down plenty of Heretics, Husks, etc. I want them to go planetside and not just be another group of ships in the big space battle that's inevitably coming. I'd love to see them ripping up the Reaper's ground forces. They've got acid spit and they crawl around in ventilation ducts. Buggers/Aliens and they're now your homies.....that better pay off in some epic cutscenery.

Yeah, like stated earlier, the Rachni may or may not have a huge fleet but as ground troops they will be unstoppable. The Rachni on Noveria were crazy and had no armor or training and were still tough to bring down, I can't wait to see them fully trained and unleashed on our enemies.

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They can always betray us.

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Pwener2313 wrote...

They can always betray us.

An interesting scenario. I doubt it though the Rachni could just be playing nice until they have the numbers to take over Council space. If betraying the galaxy is on their agenda then they will probably wait until the Reapers are defeated before making their intentions clear. After that, who could stop them? Even if the Krogan are cured they would never have enough numbers to defaet the Rachni who have a 2-4 year start. The Rachni would probably wipe out the Krogan as a preemptive strike.

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Mynoot wrote...

Dexi wrote...

Cpt Gr1f wrote...
I believe they need to have a significant part otherwise it really shouldn't of impacted if you saved the queen or not. .


Then can you please tell me WHAT should have an impact on the game? Because I'm getting that line a lot, really. 
 
To fit their argumentations, people say it to the point in which, after their minds, nothing should have a significant impact. 

And here I was listening to other people crying that no ME decisions has a real impact later on ME2 ( and possibly ME3). 


Let's see:

1. Destroying the heretics or rewriting them. Could impact Geth trust in organics.
2. Killing Wrex or not on Virmire. Could effect allegience of krogans.
3. Saving the Rachni queen or killing her. Affects allied factions in ME3.
4. No idea on Conrad Verner. I never completed that questline.


Good points but I don't think that the trust of the Krogan and Geth will be of debate later. Wrex's brother didn't seem to care and infact may even respect Shepard. I think that the Geth would see the destruction of the Heretics as an acceptable action. Not killing Wrex and sparing the Heretics may gain you more friendship points but I don't see the Krogan or Geth as a whole going after Shepard. The Morinth thing however may have a huge impact on ME3. Killing a justicar and siding with a murderer will not sit well with the Asari repuplic or squad mates if anyone finds out.