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[Akizora]

I sincerely hope that my choice in ME1 does not make me miss out a lot of content with Rachni, just that it plays out a little differently.

[Almostfaceman]

Akizora wrote...

I sincerely hope that my choice in ME1 does not make me miss out a lot of content with Rachni, just that it plays out a little differently.

Well nothing against you personally, but I hope it does make you miss out - otherwise what's the point of making the choice?

It's not the end of the world - just do another play-through where you don't kill the rachni if ya want.

[Akizora]

Almostfaceman wrote...

Akizora wrote...

I sincerely hope that my choice in ME1 does not make me miss out a lot of content with Rachni, just that it plays out a little differently.

Well nothing against you personally, but I hope it does make you miss out - otherwise what's the point of making the choice?

It's not the end of the world - just do another play-through where you don't kill the rachni if ya want.

I would have to play through all of ME1 and ME2 in that case...and choices are not about facing punishment and missing content, they're about consequences. Actual visible consequences and not just a sudden lack of content, like the Rachni being on the side of the Reapers instead or something.

[Anacronian Stryx]

The choice of the Rachni will play out like if you killed wrex or not, You'll miss something but not something crucial ..i bet this goes for all the choices.

But the cool thing is that if you add up all the choices that individually change the story in a small way then it might result in a very different game just by the number of choices made.

[Akizora]

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

The choice of the Rachni will play out like if you killed wrex or not, You'll miss something but not something crucial ..i bet this goes for all the choices.

But the cool thing is that if you add up all the choices that individually change the story in a small way then it might result in a very different game just by the number of choices made.

Hopefully, but Wrex was just replaced by another character in that case. Wrex being there felt really good though, and seeing a similar consequence to killing the Rachni would be great. That I would experience the result of it and not just have a "sorry, this mission is for paragon only - you just lost hours of gameplay!"

[Almostfaceman]

Akizora wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

Akizora wrote...

I sincerely hope that my choice in ME1 does not make me miss out a lot of content with Rachni, just that it plays out a little differently.

Well nothing against you personally, but I hope it does make you miss out - otherwise what's the point of making the choice?

It's not the end of the world - just do another play-through where you don't kill the rachni if ya want.

I would have to play through all of ME1 and ME2 in that case...and choices are not about facing punishment and missing content, they're about consequences. Actual visible consequences and not just a sudden lack of content, like the Rachni being on the side of the Reapers instead or something.

Semantics?.  I don't know what's going to happen, but it'd be nice if a Rachni fleet shows up to help.  That's content.  And it's a consequence.  If you must go out of your way to call them both things.  I hope if we kill the queen - no Rachni fleet.  You miss out on some content 'cause there's no scene with the Rachni appearing/you giving the Rachni queen a high-five, etc.

Then later...

No Rachni fleet - squadmate on a different planet helping a colony evacuate dies because our forces are spread too thin.

Rachni fleet - squadmate lives and gets colony evacuated.

But you know yeah that's just my two cents. 

[Akizora]

Almostfaceman wrote...

Akizora wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

Akizora wrote...

I sincerely hope that my choice in ME1 does not make me miss out a lot of content with Rachni, just that it plays out a little differently.

Well nothing against you personally, but I hope it does make you miss out - otherwise what's the point of making the choice?

It's not the end of the world - just do another play-through where you don't kill the rachni if ya want.

I would have to play through all of ME1 and ME2 in that case...and choices are not about facing punishment and missing content, they're about consequences. Actual visible consequences and not just a sudden lack of content, like the Rachni being on the side of the Reapers instead or something.

Semantics?.  I don't know what's going to happen, but it'd be nice if a Rachni fleet shows up to help.  That's content.  And it's a consequence.  If you must go out of your way to call them both things.  I hope if we kill the queen - no Rachni fleet.  You miss out on some content 'cause there's no scene with the Rachni appearing/you giving the Rachni queen a high-five, etc.

Then later...

No Rachni fleet - squadmate on a different planet helping a colony evacuate dies because our forces are spread too thin.

Rachni fleet - squadmate lives and gets colony evacuated.

But you know yeah that's just my two cents. 

of course, that's consequence. I meant more that I don't want to completely miss like hours of content for killing the Rachni. I don't mind if its a short thing like that or a consequence of killing them is that they arrive to help the reapers instead, or don't arrive at all.

What I would mind is if you get a transmission saying "The Rachni want you to help them on world X so they can come join you, but only if youre paragon." and then I miss 4-5 hours of content.

[Almostfaceman]

Nyoka wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

Akizora wrote...

I sincerely hope that my choice in ME1 does not make me miss out a lot of content with Rachni, just that it plays out a little differently.

Well nothing against you personally, but I hope it does make you miss out - otherwise what's the point of making the choice?

It's not the end of the world - just do another play-through where you don't kill the rachni if ya want.

It would be neat if killing the rachni had some consequences, not just a void. At least some lines of dialogue about how things will be harder now because you did it, and maybe some killing too (you would have to do the job that the rachni would do if they were alive).

Well I thought the "then later" part of my post covered this... did I fail? 

[Almostfaceman]

Akizora wrote...

What I would mind is if you get a transmission saying "The Rachni want you to help them on world X so they can come join you, but only if youre paragon." and then I miss 4-5 hours of content.

Well again I don't know what's going to happen, but I can't picture missing out on THAT much content simply because they can only make the game so long and there's a lot of variables ... *shrug* 

[Almostfaceman]

Nyoka wrote...

Ooookaaayyy....well, I sort of threw myself to quote and post without reading the following message. Sorry 0:-)

It's all good. 

[Rudimentary Creature of Flesh]

Well I left them I alive and I sure as hell hope it was worth it. I didn't keep the thing alive just so it can sing in high spaces and take control of random Asari people flying by

[Tarek]

Adugan wrote...

I like the Rachni. It would be pretty cool if they joined the council, or at least became a citadel dwelling race. Something non-humanoid for a change, not counting the Hanar.

indeed

and I'm sure the queen can make more queens, becuase I don't think rachni are immortal

rachni LI and squad mate

[Bugsie]

I would like to think that if you saved the queen you have another group willing to fight the reapers with you.  If not - it could have consequences for the end game, much in the same way failing to do upgrades or not having crew loyalty killed off various members of your squad in the SM.
I always save the queen, but then again I'm biased

Modifié par Buggirl70, 24 mars 2011 - 02:15 .

[Kakistos_]

Akizora wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

Akizora wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

Akizora wrote...

I sincerely hope that my choice in ME1 does not make me miss out a lot of content with Rachni, just that it plays out a little differently.

Well nothing against you personally, but I hope it does make you miss out - otherwise what's the point of making the choice?

It's not the end of the world - just do another play-through where you don't kill the rachni if ya want.

I would have to play through all of ME1 and ME2 in that case...and choices are not about facing punishment and missing content, they're about consequences. Actual visible consequences and not just a sudden lack of content, like the Rachni being on the side of the Reapers instead or something.

Semantics?.  I don't know what's going to happen, but it'd be nice if a Rachni fleet shows up to help.  That's content.  And it's a consequence.  If you must go out of your way to call them both things.  I hope if we kill the queen - no Rachni fleet.  You miss out on some content 'cause there's no scene with the Rachni appearing/you giving the Rachni queen a high-five, etc.

Then later...

No Rachni fleet - squadmate on a different planet helping a colony evacuate dies because our forces are spread too thin.

Rachni fleet - squadmate lives and gets colony evacuated.

But you know yeah that's just my two cents. 

of course, that's consequence. I meant more that I don't want to completely miss like hours of content for killing the Rachni. I don't mind if its a short thing like that or a consequence of killing them is that they arrive to help the reapers instead, or don't arrive at all.

What I would mind is if you get a transmission saying "The Rachni want you to help them on world X so they can come join you, but only if youre paragon." and then I miss 4-5 hours of content.

You probably will miss out on some content because of your choice and considering the Rachni's potential influence I would bet that it's significant. When you chose to kill the Rachni Queen you destroyed an entire race's hope for survival. She was the last known Queen and there is no getting around that, they will be effectivly extinct by ME3 and will not will not show up to help the reapers or anyone. The decision regarding the Queen was one of the more significant and potentially game-changing choices in the series, an entire race that could come to play in ME3. Your Shepard made his/her choice and will have to live with that.

[Akizora]

Kakistos_ wrote...
You probably will miss out on some content because of your choice and considering the Rachni's potential influence I would bet that it's significant. When you chose to kill the Rachni Queen you destroyed an entire race's hope for survival. She was the last known Queen and there is no getting around that, they will be effectivly extinct by ME3 and will not will not show up to help the reapers or anyone. The decision regarding the Queen was one of the more significant and potentially game-changing choices in the series, an entire race that could come to play in ME3. Your Shepard made his/her choice and will have to live with that.

For that matter though we don't really know if the Rachni would have been able to help us against the reapers or if they would have been easily indoctrinated again. Also, I sincerely doubt someone would miss a huge mass of content because they killed the queen - it would likely just alter content in some way. Otherwise if you made the "wrong" decission at every point, you might end up with half a game.

[Goose4291]

Pwener2313 wrote...

They can always betray us.

They've been controlled by the Reapers before, no reason it couldn't happen again...

Damn I'm glad I burned the critter..

[Coach]

The Rachni definitely need to be in ME3 and do need to play a huge game-changing role. They need to appear as the final battle looms on, ready to strike against the Reapers.

Then, just as things are looking up, the queen needs to turn to her forces and order an attack on the Normandy. Thus, proving once and for all that when you're given the option to eradicate a species of giant bugs who could one day infest your ship... you probably need to just put on the Orkin boots and get the job done.

[QwertyQwerty]

If you talked to the Asari who was being mind controlled by the Queen in ME2 she tells you that the Rachni War started because the Rachni were indoctrinated by the Reapers (well the Queens were) so I think its time for some pay back! (for the Rachni)

[Annihilator27]

Alaric123 wrote...

They will try and Fail, Epicly. Like bugs on the windscreen.

Hackett "Damn It Shepard, We cant last against this reaper fleet"
Shepard "Just a liltt-THERE, The Rachni are here!!!"
Rachni Queen "GO FOR THEIR EYES!!!"
Reapers "What the F*** are they doing, AGH my eyes I cant see"
Reaper 299 "They are crashing into us"
Harbinger "Shoot anywhere that you can manage"
Reapers end up destroying themselves.

[Kakistos_]

Akizora wrote...

Kakistos_ wrote...
You probably will miss out on some content because of your choice and considering the Rachni's potential influence I would bet that it's significant. When you chose to kill the Rachni Queen you destroyed an entire race's hope for survival. She was the last known Queen and there is no getting around that, they will be effectivly extinct by ME3 and will not will not show up to help the reapers or anyone. The decision regarding the Queen was one of the more significant and potentially game-changing choices in the series, an entire race that could come to play in ME3. Your Shepard made his/her choice and will have to live with that.

For that matter though we don't really know if the Rachni would have been able to help us against the reapers or if they would have been easily indoctrinated again. Also, I sincerely doubt someone would miss a huge mass of content because they killed the queen - it would likely just alter content in some way. Otherwise if you made the "wrong" decission at every point, you might end up with half a game.

The Rachni breed extremely fast. As stated earlier in the thread the Rachni are known to have at the least a small fleet not to mention their high value as ground troops. The Rachni were never easily Indoctrinated. They were targeted by the Reapers, presumably Sovereign, because of their power and large numbers. Indoctrination takes a while and now that they know what to look for, no race will be Indioctrinated without a fight. You are probably right about the altered content but the Rachni are a significant part of Mass Effect. They challenged the whole of citidel space and nearly won. The impact they could have in ME3 could be massive. Not choosing to save the Queen will hurt.

[matt-bassist]

What I would love to happen: By Saving the queen, the Rachni come back for the final battle and help out in destroying the Reapers.

What happened in ME2: Apart from one news report, the Rachni don't exist, and the only mention of the queen is if you import your game from ME1. Otherwise the queen is dead and the Rachni don't exist.

What will probably happen in ME3: If you have a ME1 + 2 save, the Queen contacts you and says she cannot help out. If you only have an ME2 save, you hear nothing of the Rachni.

This was entirely done to appease PS3 gamers who can't play ME1.

That's pretty much my worst fear.

[Nerevar-as]

I think deciding the Queen´s fate was among the choices included in Genesis.

Im not that concerned about Indoctrination, this time they are warned, while first time it was likely a sucker punch from Sovereign to the entire race.

[Kakistos_]

matt-bassist wrote...

What I would love to happen: By Saving the queen, the Rachni come back for the final battle and help out in destroying the Reapers.

What happened in ME2: Apart from one news report, the Rachni don't exist, and the only mention of the queen is if you import your game from ME1. Otherwise the queen is dead and the Rachni don't exist.

What will probably happen in ME3: If you have a ME1 + 2 save, the Queen contacts you and says she cannot help out. If you only have an ME2 save, you hear nothing of the Rachni.

This was entirely done to appease PS3 gamers who can't play ME1.

That's pretty much my worst fear.

I don't think your negative predictions for ME3 will come to pass. If the 'big' choices are mitigated again ME3 will suffer greatly. And screw PS3 gamers. If they want to know about the better part of the ME series they can go read the wiki.