I didn't say shorter was worse, I simply said I had concerns to as how short. Ever play Fable 3? fun game... But 5 hours of gameplay did not justify it's price. If it's ME2 length, I am content, as I thoroughly enjoyed that game.
Modifié par SLPr0, 27 février 2011 - 01:12 .
It's not an excuse, it's a fact.Demo-Mike wrote...
Makes no sense. They just need one more voice actor to do a lot of work, do not see how it would affect it in any way.nice excuseGodWood wrote...
Voiced PC = Shorter game
I remember a lot of people making this argument way back when and getting shouted down as doomsayers. Unsurprisingly, they were right.GodWood wrote...
It's not an excuse, it's a fact.Demo-Mike wrote...
Makes no sense. They just need one more voice actor to do a lot of work, do not see how it would affect it in any way.nice excuseGodWood wrote...
Voiced PC = Shorter game
Having a voiced PC requires 2 VO minimum (one male, one female) this eats up money and resources.
Bioware stated themself prior to Origins release that if Origins had a voiced PC it would have been half as long.
SmokingBalrog wrote...
I’m still interested in your opinions on how much the development(costs) of SWTOR have influenced the development of DA2. Are you guys think that Bioware planned to release DA2 like this, or did EA pull some strings?
Demo-Mike wrote...
GodWood wrote...
Voiced PC = Shorter game
Makes no sense. They just need one more voice actor to do a lot of work, do not see how it would affect it in any way.nice excuse
Modifié par Morzan_a, 27 février 2011 - 01:22 .
Roseking wrote...
You're pretty silly, not everyone has money to throw around like you, and would like to get thier money's worth. One thing that has been confirmed is DA2 will be shorter then DA:O.
I would not call buying three games spread out over the year to be throwing around money.
SLPr0 wrote...
I didn't say shorter was worse, I simply said I had concerns to as how short. Ever play Fable 3? fun game... But 5 hours of gameplay did not justify it's price. If it's ME2 length, I am content, as I thoroughly enjoyed that game.
No I stopped trusting Peter Molyneux after Black and White II. Hes got nice ideas, but, the implementation is often...odd.
Sinvx wrote...
My only concern is that it's not another Fable 3, good game but you could play through it in a few hours. Since game will be shorter then DA:O, I hope it lasts as long as ME2. Like 20 hours of gameplay as to 5 hours like Fable 3(paid 84$ for that garbage...).
Spent roughly 70$(taxes+Canadian monies), so I will be pissed if it's like Fable 3 and very short, and probably won't buy another Bioware game aside from SWTOR. if that's the case. Demo was amazing, pre-ordered it right after, but read that Bioware shortened Dragon Age 2, because "A lot of people didn't complete Origins", which I think is a stupid reason to make a game shorter... I'm just very skeptical of this after playing Fable 3, and reading about the game being shorter.
Demo-Mike wrote...
Marionetten wrote...
Perhaps you ought to mention that the lead designer of Dragon Age: Origins quit due to changes he didn't necessarily approve of and that most of Dragon Age: Origins was developed independently of EA? While we can argue if it's for better or worse I think we need to accept the fact that there have been changes.SLPr0 wrote...
Yes make games with love again. Cause everything they've made since becoming an EA subsidiary has been so awful. Makes you wonder why their annual revenue keeps growing what with all this lack of "love" in their game development.
DA:O was developed and released under the EA subsidiary status, and Ray Muzyka, the original founder of BioWare is still in charge and everything developed under the BioWare label still reports to him directly. Its not like EA came in, threw out all the BioWare people and took over, seriously.
To answer the topic, most of the budget probably went to Mass Effect 3.
Mass Effect 2 fail, great reviews low sales, It sold about as much as Lost Planet 2, people don't care about character talking and having sex with but lady, people want huge games with fun gameplay and exploration
Arttis wrote...
95% of DAO completed took me 34 hours.culletron1 wrote...
According to PC gamer it took them 50+ hours(without doing all of the side missions) to finish DA2 and the guy said he did DA:O in 80 or so...
The level of over reaction on this forum is bordering on hysterical. After you all play the FULL game then you can legitimately complain all you want. If you decide to not play the game I don't see why anyone should take your criticisms seriously...
Sounds like the reviewer wasted a lot fo time.
Dubya75 wrote...
No graphics improvement? Really? If you are going to make such statements, then you will really need to give some evidence to support it.
Sinvx wrote...
Roseking wrote...
You're pretty silly, not everyone has money to throw around like you, and would like to get thier money's worth. One thing that has been confirmed is DA2 will be shorter then DA:O.
I would not call buying three games spread out over the year to be throwing around money.
Read his post again, he is saying he doesn't care, and he'll just buy stuff for the sake of buying stuff... And I am saying, I don't have money to throw away at whim like he does, so I am concerned about getting my money's worth, he's right people should wait with concerns, but i've already paid for the game, I really enjoyed the demo, so I would of bought it anyways. I simply do not want another Fable 3, and when you got reviews saying it's from 10-50 hours of gameplay... Only one way to find out is to play it for yourself.
My other point was games don't always drop in price, hence MW2.
Modifié par HawXV2, 27 février 2011 - 01:25 .
normal on xbox using 2 mages with both blizzard and lightning storm.Sinvx wrote...
Arttis wrote...
95% of DAO completed took me 34 hours.culletron1 wrote...
According to PC gamer it took them 50+ hours(without doing all of the side missions) to finish DA2 and the guy said he did DA:O in 80 or so...
The level of over reaction on this forum is bordering on hysterical. After you all play the FULL game then you can legitimately complain all you want. If you decide to not play the game I don't see why anyone should take your criticisms seriously...
Sounds like the reviewer wasted a lot fo time.
What difficulty did you play on? Did you cheat?
Modifié par Arttis, 27 février 2011 - 01:26 .
Demo-Mike wrote...
HawXV2 wrote...
Roseking wrote...
You're pretty silly, not everyone has money to throw around like you, and would like to get thier money's worth. One thing that has been confirmed is DA2 will be shorter then DA:O.
I would not call buying three games spread out over the year to be throwing around money.
Yeah. If you can't regain 60 bucks in 8 months, you're rather pathetic. On another not, that Mike dude is a total troll. Just leave him be.
I'm sorry but no
People here acuse everyone on trolling, saw a thread that said that anyone who had a bad thing to say about the demo is a trol.
Demo-Mike wrote...
Marionetten wrote...
Perhaps you ought to mention that the lead designer of Dragon Age: Origins quit due to changes he didn't necessarily approve of and that most of Dragon Age: Origins was developed independently of EA? While we can argue if it's for better or worse I think we need to accept the fact that there have been changes.SLPr0 wrote...
Yes make games with love again. Cause everything they've made since becoming an EA subsidiary has been so awful. Makes you wonder why their annual revenue keeps growing what with all this lack of "love" in their game development.
DA:O was developed and released under the EA subsidiary status, and Ray Muzyka, the original founder of BioWare is still in charge and everything developed under the BioWare label still reports to him directly. Its not like EA came in, threw out all the BioWare people and took over, seriously.
To answer the topic, most of the budget probably went to Mass Effect 3.
Mass Effect 2 fail, great reviews low sales, It sold about as much as Lost Planet 2, people don't care about character talking and having sex with but lady, people want huge games with fun gameplay and exploration
Sinvx wrote...
My only concern is that it's not another Fable 3, good game but you could play through it in a few hours. Since game will be shorter then DA:O, I hope it lasts as long as ME2. Like 20 hours of gameplay as to 5 hours like Fable 3(paid 84$ for that garbage...).
Spent roughly 70$(taxes+Canadian monies), so I will be pissed if it's like Fable 3 and very short, and probably won't buy another Bioware game aside from SWTOR. if that's the case. Demo was amazing, pre-ordered it right after, but read that Bioware shortened Dragon Age 2, because "A lot of people didn't complete Origins", which I think is a stupid reason to make a game shorter... I'm just very skeptical of this after playing Fable 3, and reading about the game being shorter.
SLPr0 wrote...
Demo-Mike wrote...
Marionetten wrote...
Perhaps you ought to mention that the lead designer of Dragon Age: Origins quit due to changes he didn't necessarily approve of and that most of Dragon Age: Origins was developed independently of EA? While we can argue if it's for better or worse I think we need to accept the fact that there have been changes.SLPr0 wrote...
Yes make games with love again. Cause everything they've made since becoming an EA subsidiary has been so awful. Makes you wonder why their annual revenue keeps growing what with all this lack of "love" in their game development.
DA:O was developed and released under the EA subsidiary status, and Ray Muzyka, the original founder of BioWare is still in charge and everything developed under the BioWare label still reports to him directly. Its not like EA came in, threw out all the BioWare people and took over, seriously.
To answer the topic, most of the budget probably went to Mass Effect 3.
Mass Effect 2 fail, great reviews low sales, It sold about as much as Lost Planet 2, people don't care about character talking and having sex with but lady, people want huge games with fun gameplay and exploration
Dude Mass Effect 2 sold like naked women covered in hotcakes, it sold 1.6 million PC units in the three months between January of 2010 and March of 2010, thats nearly more copies than Baldur's Gate sold in TOTAL. And it only sold that many in the first three months after it was released.
And it has now sold a total of 2.6 million copies world wide as of this date, on Xbox 360 alone. What exactly qualifies as "high sales" to you? Cause the total combined Xbox/PS3 and PC box and digital distributions as of this time, a year after release is literally not something that can even be factually speculated on.
If Mass Effect 2 had "low sales" to you, I'm sure you'll be sorry to know that Dragon Age: Origins only sold 2.04 million copies on the XBox 360 since its release, again the numbers for total combined Xbox/PS3/PC Box and Digital Distributions can only be guessed at, theres no publicly released information.
So, apparently if we look at the information presented and make stupidly broad generalizations, Dragon Age: Origins failed, it had great reviews but lower sales than Mass Effect 2.
I'd assume the total number of distributed copies for both Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age: Origins, taking all platforms into account, as of this date is probably somewhere in the 5 to 6 million units sold, since release date. That would be an estimate, don't take it as gospel.
Purple People Eater wrote...
Its not the amount of the content im worried about, its the quality of the content. Are the series of main quests going to feel like they're driving us forward in a compelling way?. Are the side quests deeper, and more involved than just fetching things for people?. Thats what im worried about. Even if there isnt a ton to do, I hope its enjoyable, so doing it again on a second playthrough wont feel like a burden.
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simfamSP wrote...
I don't get this 'cash cow' bull. Didn't DA:O sell better than ME2?
fro7k wrote...
They need to get away from EA and do their own thing. Valve take their time, and everything they've done has been worth the wait.
Modifié par sevalaricgirl, 27 février 2011 - 01:44 .
Purple People Eater wrote...
Its not the amount of the content im worried about, its the quality of the content. Are the series of main quests going to feel like they're driving us forward in a compelling way?. Are the side quests deeper, and more involved than just fetching things for people?. Thats what im worried about. Even if there isnt a ton to do, I hope its enjoyable, so doing it again on a second playthrough wont feel like a burden.
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