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[Fiery Phoenix]

PrinceLionheart wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Realistically speaking, it shouldn't be too different from what happened with Liara in LOTSB. That is to say, no worries necessary.

Well technically, by getting back with Liara, you ended up cheating again, this time on the ME2 LI. 

Regardless.

[I will kill you both]

... threesome. Liara, Kelly and Fem Shep...or Male Shep cuz I ain't prejudice!

[STG]

An angry E-mail!

[enerqy]

The thread title held such great promise...I thought it was a witty play on words...alas...it was not to be...

Modifié par enerqy, 28 février 2011 - 09:35 .

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

It is a witty play on words. Look at the first page
And nod, I find practically everything funny. So don't take it to heart

[Nodscouter]

Uh-huh. I still don't like the idea of you liking puns, but I'll let it slide, but only cause you're almost a commie.

[Alphia]

I imagine you will get a chance to get back with your ME1 LI in ME3. If you romanced someone in ME2, there will probably be a point where both your LIs confront you and make you choose between them. Maybe there will be some sort of punishment for it getting to this point, like the rejected LI losing loyalty or leaving or something.

Though personally I'm hoping for a brawl between Garrus and Kaiden.

[OrlesianWardenCommander]

I won't have that problem because ps3 owners don't have me1 and we never will :/

[Pwener2313]

Liara said that it's all cool - I don't believe her. She is obviously jealous of Miranda.

[I will kill you both]

OMG THIS IS A SEXIST thread! I am reporting you all! (see what I did there?)

[Shepard needs a Vacation]

I hope that if you are a renegade it can lead to your former LI trying to kill you

[Nodscouter]

What why? What does being renegade have to do with ANYTHING?

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Nodscouter wrote...

Uh-huh. I still don't like the idea of you liking puns, but I'll let it slide, but only cause you're almost a commie.

That's good. Otherwise I may just have to declare war on you.
And I was a little outraged by Liara's response, especially seeming though that situation was clear cut cheating. Whereas the VS pretty much dumped Shepard on Horizon.

Being accused of a traitor and a liar and then leaving does not bode well for a relationship.

[Leonia]

The pun in the thread title lured me in here, well done.

I can envision several different confrontation scenarios between Shepard and the former LI but the ones that seem the most interesting to me are those that let the current LI voice their opinions as well. And more than that, it feels a lot like the VS abandoned Shepard at Horizon. They chose duty over their love/loyalty to Shepard and that just seems.. more dishounourable in my eyes than Shepard's "cheating" on them in ME2.

Of course you can argue that Ash/Kaidan just didn't trust Cerberus enough and had more important things to do with the Alliance but.. what about Garrus and Tali? They didn't leave Shepard's side despite their feelings on Cerberus, Tali is particualrly hateful against Cerberus. It almost feels like Shep's relationship with her returning squad-mates is more sound than the relationship she had with her ME1 love-interest. Liara is a bit justified.. she was recovering Shepard's body after all and chasing down the Shadow-broker, it's a bit more solid than the VS's reasons for not sticking around. Plus the Horizon encounter does feel a lot like a "hey we're over now" moment and the e-mails from Kaidan at least implies that he moved on (haven't seen the one from Ash).

So.. the way I see it, Shep is totally justified in what she does with her personal life in ME2. That said, if an encounter is going to happen with the VS LI, I would point out that it would be interesting to hear Shep's rationale for changing her LI. I'd really like to her reasoning and maybe even using the "l" word (notice how Kaidan/Ash use it but Shepard never does?). I'd find it especially interesting if Shepard had moved on to Garrus or Tali and mentioned that at least they didn't abandon her when she needed them most. That should give the VS something to think about, right?

I'm sure you guys could come up with more interesting repercussions but for once I'd love to see Shepard justify his/her decisions.

Modifié par leonia42, 01 mars 2011 - 11:10 .

[Tasha vas Nar Rayya]

Agreed. Tali and Garrus didn't leave Shepard's side just because he/she was working for Cerberus. That became their motivation for helping Shepard and watching his/her back when working with a bunch of iffy people.
So THAT is why Shepard went off with someone else in ME2. VS, unfortunately, couldn't see past Cerberus and actually recognise that Shepard NEEDED people he/she trusted who are loyal.

[Nodscouter]

Ah yes, never romanced a VS but I'm probably going to do a playthrough where I do, then switch to Garrus/Tali, just to see the look on the VS face.

[mopotter]

If you try to encourage them to fight over you, they will look at you in wonder, and then go out for coffee and talk about how you never pick up your clothing and either leave the toilet seat up or leave your delicates drying in the shower. Then they will laugh and dump you.

I would find this very funny as one option.

IMO - Cheating implies a long term relationship without a two year break. Shepard and VS moved on. I would like 3 choices. top right - lets see where this can go; middle - we've both moved on and lower right - you were a jerk don't ever talk to me again. Upper right - kiss me I've missed you; lower right - cuss them out.

[Chuvvy]

Ha! Reapercussions! I get joke! I laugh!

[Leonia]

Nodscouter wrote...

Ah yes, never romanced a VS but I'm probably going to do a playthrough where I do, then switch to Garrus/Tali, just to see the look on the VS face.

I'm particularly looking forward to Kaidan's reaction to Shepard moving on to Garrus. He was always saying how great the non-human species were, right, and how everyone is equal and what not. Heh heh..

@mopotter: Oh, I like how you think!

Modifié par leonia42, 01 mars 2011 - 11:55 .

[Smeelia]

leonia42 wrote...

I can envision several different confrontation scenarios between Shepard and the former LI but the ones that seem the most interesting to me are those that let the current LI voice their opinions as well. And more than that, it feels a lot like the VS abandoned Shepard at Horizon. They chose duty over their love/loyalty to Shepard and that just seems.. more dishounourable in my eyes than Shepard's "cheating" on them in ME2.

The problem I have with the Horizon encounter is that they don't really explain things very well, it could just be because they're keeping their current assignment secret but they could just say that to Shepard (as a fellow soldier who has worked in special operations a lot) and it would be understood.  If they really are choosing duty over love/loyalty to Shepard I wouldn't have a problem with it, sometimes duty is more important (and if it's love then the other person might understand and be willing to wait or let their love go).

I don't think an argument automatically means the relationship is over but it's been two years, it'd be unfair of Shepard to push the idea of a relationship at that point (even if it hasn't seemed as long to Shepard) and since the VS makes no effort to indicate that the relationship can continue it's perfectly reasonable for Shepard to move on as well.

[I will kill you both]

Slidell505 wrote...

Ha! Reapercussions! I get joke! I laugh!

In Soviet Russia joke gets YOU!

[Ramirez Wolfen]

Nodscouter wrote...

I'm hoping for the second one of those two to win.

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

Sexy catfight? How is that a repercussion?

Well, in case they both die... You know, a huge biotic fight between Liara and Jack might not end well.

I guess I'll have to make it a fair fight between the two? No biotics, and they have to wear sexy lingerie.

[Wrathra]

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Agreed. Tali and Garrus didn't leave Shepard's side just because he/she was working for Cerberus. That became their motivation for helping Shepard and watching his/her back when working with a bunch of iffy people.
So THAT is why Shepard went off with someone else in ME2. VS, unfortunately, couldn't see past Cerberus and actually recognise that Shepard NEEDED people he/she trusted who are loyal.

The VS is feeling really betrayed, which makes perfect sense.  They thought Shepard was dead, because, really, its insane to think otherwise (we know the truth, but THEY don not).  TIM leaked that Shepard was with Cerebus before Shepard contacted the VS, and Anderson stonewalled him/her.  The Alliance thinks Cerebus is behind the missing colonists. Shepard is in a bad position right from the start of that encounter. For Shepard to assume that someone would just drop everything after he/she disappeared for two years is naive and well, arrogant (only my opinion, I mean no offense).

Neither Garrus or Tali were as emotionally invested in Shepard when Shepard died as the VS was (unless you roleplayed them differently than the game presented them, obviously), if the VS was a love interest.  If I watched my lover get blown out of a spaceship, then they show up two years later with a "hai! i was dead but not now! How's it going? Oh, lets go kill some things, just like old times!!" while working with a group that some consider terrorists, I don't even think i could put into words the rage and hurt I'd be feeling, and I sure as hell wouldn't drop everything to go join them.

Of course, alot of the problem with the entire Horizon encounter is the fault of Shepards completely idiotic dialogue. I cringed whenever Shep opened her mouth, but that's another argument entirely.

As to the original question, I don't consider Shepard wandering off with another LI in ME2, almost immediately, cheating, but I consider it kind of a douchy thing to do, only because it feels like shep is just running to someone else because the VS didn't kiss his/her butt.  But again, that's just how it read to me    I don't know what kind of reprecussions there could be, other than maybe snarky dialogue?  

Edit: clarification.

Modifié par Wrathra, 01 mars 2011 - 04:22 .

[Rekkampum]

Jayman1337 wrote...

Sorry if this has been brought up before.

What would the repercussions be for cheating on your ME1 LI? That being Ash/Kaidan, since Liara's been dealt with in LotSB.  Would there simply be a conflict similar to the Jack/Miranda Tali/Legion argument, where you have to choose to side with one. Or would they go as far as forcing one to leave you without any say on your part?

The reason I'm bringing this up is that they've stated there might be a negative impact for doing this in ME3. I wouldn't call being able to choose negative. I'm just wondering what the rest of you think about the topic.

Of course if you're "cheating" on your loved one it's going to be negative. Just for absurdity, let's say that they will join the Reapers in the destruction of the galaxy or die some miserable death ala Final Destination. I could honestly care. I was dead for two years and I had to "move on" lol.