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[Purple People Eater]

Indolence wrote...

KawaiiKatie wrote...

I was really disappointed when I saw how Ladyhawke flounces about like a tart. Before the demo was released, I'd heard that Isabela was going to get a "saunter" because she's a sexy woman, and I was okay with that because, hey, it's Isabela we're talking about here. But that doesn't mean that the main character needs to look like that! Why can't Ladyhawke walk like Aveline, a woman who wants to be taken seriously?

I guess it comes down to fetish material. Ladyhawke has to be sexy, and walk sexy, or no dude will want to stare at her butt, and we can't have that.

My Marian doesn't walk that sexy. It might have been sexy but the head bob ruins any attempt at a sexy flounce. How come everyone noticed her ass moving when her head bobs all over the place? I mean, ok.. I'm a woman so I'm less likely to stare at my character's behind than her head... but the head bobbing is so much more obvious... left and right, left and right.. like a metronome. Seriously.

I never noticed she had a head. You sure that was in the demo?.

[Mr. Sirius]

I think I'm falling in love with Sarielle O.o

[KawaiiKatie]

Sarielle wrote...

KawaiiKatie wrote...

I guess it comes down to fetish material. Ladyhawke has to be sexy, and walk sexy, or no dude will want to stare at her butt, and we can't have that.

I don't understand the aversion to making something sexy. Objectifying, yes. Sexifying, no. What's wrong with sexy?

There's nothing wrong with some sex appeal. In fact, I'll openly encourage it every now and again! My only issue is when it's not equal across genders.

I understand that characters like Isabela (and probably Zevran, if he was in DA2) get sexy walks because that's just who they are. But the game just assumes that the players wants his/her female main character to be sexy, even though it makes no such assumptions for a male main character.

I would be completely okay with Ladyhawke's butt-shaking if manHawke did the same thing. But he does not. Only Ladyhawke is "sexyfied," and that's when I quirk an eyebrow and object.

Modifié par KawaiiKatie, 27 février 2011 - 10:54 .

[chelseaisthepan]

I think my favorite way of describing this was that LadyHawke looks like 'a prostitute running from the rain'.

OT: It does look a little off, but I'll get over it.

[Neleothesze]

Felfenix wrote...

Indolence wrote...

Sarielle wrote...

My Avatar is Batman wrote...
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I doubt you bob your head from side to side though That was what bothered me most about the running animations. I have no problem with swinging hips or whatever else has been brought up so far but am I the only one who noticed Femhawke bobs her head left and right ALL the time while running? Like it helps with equilibrium or something? Go check the demo again. I swear I'm not imagining it. Even the hair is bobbing left and right, left and right.

That's nothing compared to ME2. Both Shepards have REALLY, REALLY bad head bob in that game. The Shepards violently jerk their head around while running like their don't have a spine. Bioware has like... a head bob fetish.

I honestly don't remember finding it this jarring in ME2. Maybe the sprint helped.

[D.Kain]

[quote]KawaiiKatie wrote...

[quote]KawaiiKatie wrote...

I guess it comes down to fetish material. Ladyhawke has to be sexy, and walk sexy, or no dude will want to stare at her butt, and we can't have that.

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I don't understand the aversion to making something sexy. Objectifying, yes. Sexifying, no. What's wrong with sexy?

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There's nothing wrong with some sex appeal. In fact, I'll openly encourage it every now and again! My only issue is when it's not equal across genders.

I understand that characters like Isabela (and probably Zevran, if he was in DA2) get sexy walks because that's just who they are. But the game just assumes that the players wants his/her female main character to be sexy, even though it makes no such assumptions for a male main character.

I would be completely okay with Ladyhawke's butt-shaking if manHawke did the same thing. But he does not. Only Ladyhawke is "sexyfied," and that's when I quirk and eyebrow and object.

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I support you COMPLETELY on the matter. 

Modifié par D.Kain, 27 février 2011 - 10:54 .

[Eveangaline]

Sarielle wrote...

Sesshomaru47 wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

I like the female animations, myself. Much better than them using male animations.

Dragon Age didn't use a male run animation though. Females had their own normal way of running. Not the "i really need the loo" way of running. The new animation is rubbish.

No girl I know runs the way they did in DA:O. It's very masculine. The DAII one is much more realistic.

Funny, no womanI know runs the way da2 has it, it looks like a parody of a 6 year old girl run.

[Sabishii123]

@KawaiiKattie
Exactly, malehawke should be fabulous! Or the wiggle butt has to go!

Modifié par Sabishii123, 27 février 2011 - 10:55 .

[Sesshomaru47]

Sarielle wrote...

Sesshomaru47 wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

I like the female animations, myself. Much better than them using male animations.

Dragon Age didn't use a male run animation though. Females had their own normal way of running. Not the "i really need the loo" way of running. The new animation is rubbish.

No girl I know runs the way they did in DA:O. It's very masculine. The DAII one is much more realistic.

Yeah......I'm a girl and I sure do not run like that. Dragon Ages animation was only masculine in cut scenes, her run was fine and totally different from the male animation. You want a masculine run animation, go play Mass Effect 2, they share the same one.

[RosaAquafire]

I like the way she runs.

[falconlord5]

Eveangaline wrote...


Funny, no womanI know runs the way da2 has it, it looks like a parody of a 6 year old girl run.

Let's be honest here: does any actual human being run like they do in video games?

[Sarielle]

Eveangaline wrote...

Sarielle wrote...

Sesshomaru47 wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

I like the female animations, myself. Much better than them using male animations.

Dragon Age didn't use a male run animation though. Females had their own normal way of running. Not the "i really need the loo" way of running. The new animation is rubbish.

No girl I know runs the way they did in DA:O. It's very masculine. The DAII one is much more realistic.

Funny, no womanI know runs the way da2 has it, it looks like a parody of a 6 year old girl run.

I think the takeaway value of this (and other comments, mine included) is that a lot of people run a lot of different ways. The "nobody does it" argument doesn't really work just because you don't do it (and I'm using the general "you" here.)

[kane442]

meh lady hawk is hot ....and she uses it ...generally females hips move alot more when running and walking ...and i see people standing the way lady hawk stands very often

[D.Kain]

Ok one question for everyone.

So I see that majority of people want male and female characters to be different in the way they act and move, but there is a WAR going on.

So the question is: Do you think it is possible to remain a LADY while chopping people's parts off, would you really think about being sexy on the battlefield?

Because fighting is clearly a masculine thing to do, and since female characters are so involved in it.

[kane442]

D.Kain wrote...

Ok one question for everyone.

So I see that majority of people want male and female characters to be different in the way they act and move, but there is a WAR going on.

So the question is: Do you think it is possible to remain a LADY while chopping people's parts off, would you really think about being sexy on the battlefield?

Because fighting is clearly a masculine thing to do, and since female characters are so involved in it.

well i would say its a fantasy game so yes
it i wanted it to be realistic i would play something more along the lines of call of duty

edit : not that call of duty is all that real ...but you get what i mean

Modifié par kane442, 27 février 2011 - 11:10 .

[Huntress]

My Avatar is Batman wrote...

NEWS FLASH:People run different

So STFU and stop calling certain running styles an Insult just because thats not how you do it. Some May find it Offensive

So Ladyhawk find that offencive? If you try running like that
1: you'll break a leg or fall all the time.
2: you'll stop running after everyone point and laugh.
3:you'll be sent to a lab and see how the heck you keep balance/equilibrium.

News flash Ladyhawk is a bunch of number in a computer.
mm what about the STFU? is she upset by it aswell?

We are not talking about any people we are talking about a  character in a computer game. I do not give a rat how anyone runs in real life, ladyhawk runs wierd and thats all that matter.

 

[Sarielle]

D.Kain wrote...

Ok one question for everyone.

So I see that majority of people want male and female characters to be different in the way they act and move, but there is a WAR going on.

So the question is: Do you think it is possible to remain a LADY while chopping people's parts off, would you really think about being sexy on the battlefield?

Because fighting is clearly a masculine thing to do, and since female characters are so involved in it.

Why would FemHawke need to think about being sexy to be sexy? Same with ManHawke?

I'm also not entirely certain I agree that fighting is a masculine thing (male-dominated yes...not sure about actually masculine).

[Spectre Collecter]

Sarielle wrote...

Sesshomaru47 wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

I like the female animations, myself. Much better than them using male animations.

Dragon Age didn't use a male run animation though. Females had their own normal way of running. Not the "i really need the loo" way of running. The new animation is rubbish.

No girl I know runs the way they did in DA:O. It's very masculine. The DAII one is much more realistic.

No girl I know runs in general.

[Spectre Collecter]

Anyway, does it really matter? I'm sure the same people would be complaining about Female Hawke's animations if they just recycled Male Hawke's, or some universal animation.

Grow up, people.

[My Avatar is Batman]

Eveangaline wrote...

Sarielle wrote...

Sesshomaru47 wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

I like the female animations, myself. Much better than them using male animations.

Dragon Age didn't use a male run animation though. Females had their own normal way of running. Not the "i really need the loo" way of running. The new animation is rubbish.

No girl I know runs the way they did in DA:O. It's very masculine. The DAII one is much more realistic.

Funny, no womanI know runs the way da2 has it, it looks like a parody of a 6 year old girl run.

then maybe you should go running with women more often

[Haasth]

falconlord5 wrote...

Eveangaline wrote...


Funny, no womanI know runs the way da2 has it, it looks like a parody of a 6 year old girl run.

Let's be honest here: does any actual human being run like they do in video games?

You know how long it took me to perfect Shepard's 'constant jogging' run?!

[My Avatar is Batman]

Huntress wrote...

My Avatar is Batman wrote...

NEWS FLASH:People run different

So STFU and stop calling certain running styles an Insult just because thats not how you do it. Some May find it Offensive

So Ladyhawk find that offencive? If you try running like that
1: you'll break a leg or fall all the time.
2: you'll stop running after everyone point and laugh.
3:you'll be sent to a lab and see how the heck you keep balance/equilibrium.

News flash Ladyhawk is a bunch of number in a computer.
mm what about the STFU? is she upset by it aswell?

We are not talking about any people we are talking about a  character in a computer game. I do not give a rat how anyone runs in real life, ladyhawk runs wierd and thats all that matter.

 

weird is not a good adjetive,
I've seen plenty of women run like Femhawke 

[Avilia]

She appears to have a hinge where her lumbar should be.

Modifié par Avilia, 27 février 2011 - 11:17 .

[Altima Darkspells]

BioWare seems to have a fetish for awful running animations. First was the mage straddle-run, and now the Ladyhawke seizure-claw-flail sprint.