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[Hathur]

Eshaye wrote...

I actually thought her running was a nice change, as for her stance it's cute except my chiropractor would disapprove -20... Not good for your back that. Also I stand like she does, I'm no hooker last I checked. And my chiro still disapproves.

edit: this is also MUCH preferable then our poor FemSheps stuck on male animations... Ughhh! 

Agree on the femshep thing.. glad they gave femhawke her own movement rigging separate from the male rigging.

On an unrelated note... you should honestly stop visiting chiropractors... they're nothing more than snake-oil salesman using voodoo "science" ... they often do more harm than good. A first year med student understands your physiology better than any crackpot chiropractor... they steal your money and you jeopardize your health in their hands.

Modifié par Hathur, 28 février 2011 - 02:43 .

[Joy Divison]

Life must be damn fine to be insulted by the animations on a video game...

[Tennyochan]

i think her stance is cute. at least i hope we wont run into any 'femshep panty shots' or something more masculine.

although that bravery sound was funny XD

Modifié par tennyochan, 28 février 2011 - 02:56 .

[Saibh]

I do wish developers would stop sticking every woman in the popped hip stance.

The men don't stay there and flex their muscles.

And, yes, the run is a bit weird. Mostly the way her hands move in an odd wavy motion.

[The Minority]

I've seen women run with their arms flailing around, and women who run like male bodybuilders. If FemHawke runs like she does and you don't like it, too bad.

[The Minority]

If you are in pain but you look good.... it's worth it.

That was a joke.

[Ceridwen]

distinguetraces wrote...

But it is weird to me that for a female character, sexy = discomfort.

Beauty is pain.

[Hathur]

Saibh wrote...

I do wish developers would stop sticking every woman in the popped hip stance.
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Perhaps one of the only advantages of having female Shepard use the same movement / standing animations as male Shepard was that her standing / idle posture resulted in a female protagonist that didn't stand about like a runway model.. made me appreciate femshep as a leader, hero and person  immensely more (and i quickly learned to overlook her odd walking / jogging animation because of it)... I liked that femshep stood (not ran) like 99.9% of women you see in the real world... you know.... normally... not with their hand resting on a popped hip.

Seeing femshep stand next to Miranda was an interesting contrast... made me appreciate femshep a lot more for not being a sexualized creature.

[Saibh]

The Minority wrote...

I've seen women run with their arms flailing around, and women who run like male bodybuilders. If FemHawke runs like she does and you don't like it, too bad.

Every woman is going to run like that.

Besides that, isn't it better to have a more...gender-neutral run, than a decidedly feminine one?

[Saibh]

distinguetraces wrote...

A while back, my roommate was replaying KotOR. My other roommate, a woman, watched for a bit and then decided to see how long she could keep up that one-buttock-thrust-out stance in imitation of his female character. Three minutes later she collapsed on the couch in agony.

I don't mean to sneer at anyone -- we all like a little visual thrill, and all the straight boys who provide much of the money that drives the gaming industry should in no way be embarrassed about enjoying their share.

But it is weird to me that for a female character, sexy = discomfort.

(Although the oddness of LadyHawke's trotting is down to the jerky animation as much as anything else.)

Popped hips stance isn't as bad as T&A stance, where women are shown breaking their spine in an effort to get both their breasts and the derriere in the camera at once.

Hathur wrote...

Perhaps one of the only advantages of having female Shepard use the same movement / standing animations as male Shepard was that her standing / idle posture resulted in a female protagonist that didn't stand about like a runway model.. made me appreciate femshep as a leader, hero and person  immensely more (and i quickly learned to overlook her odd walking / jogging animation because of it)... I liked that femshep stood (not ran) like 99.9% of women you see in the real world... you know.... normally... not with their hand resting on a popped hip.

Seeing femshep stand next to Miranda was an interesting contrast... made me appreciate femshep a lot more for not being a sexualized creature.

Very true. While I appreciate feminized animations, it's better when they don't treat that as fanservice, or as the girly counterpart to MANLY runs.

Modifié par Saibh, 28 février 2011 - 03:58 .

[Atakuma]

Saibh wrote...
Every woman is going to run like that.

Besides that, isn't it better to have a more...gender-neutral run, than a decidedly feminine one?

I think so, to me it's just obnoxiously girly.

[PinkShoes]

Bayonetta~~

And i dont think they are insulting us ladies. Anywhozle, mix DAO and DA2 walks and will be perfect. If she wiggled anymore when she walked she will break sommik ahahahah

[Ziggeh]

I keep thinking she looks like a distance runner taking a bend.

[Chuvvy]

People are incredibly easily offended here.

[HolyAvenger]

iz hawt? Yes I agree.

[panamakira]

Am I the only one that likes Lady Hawke's running? I don't think she runs like a hooker either!!!

You people notice the smallest things. I find it amusing and a little weird.

Modifié par panamakira, 28 février 2011 - 05:46 .

[Weltea]

panamakira wrote...

Am I the only one that likes Lady Hawke's running? I don't think she runs like a hooker either!!!

You people notice the smallest things. I find it amusing and a little weird.

Do hookers run??
The resaon people notice is because it's incredible noticeable.
And they don't like it because femHawke isn't supposed to be 15 and a highschool-cliche doesn't really fit someone fighting...
And last but not least because women always get sexualized and this is just another way of doing so. Sadly the gamers world is male dominated but does that mean there can't be equality?

[BlackIce541]

panamakira wrote...

Am I the only one that likes Lady Hawke's running? I don't think she runs like a hooker either!!!

You people notice the smallest things. I find it amusing and a little weird.

I have never seen a hooker run, not EVER! And I've seen every episode of COPS.

[ReiSilver]

I wish when people criticised, say, turn based combat as being too slow, or complained that interfaces are too dumbed down, we could brush them off saying "Oh don't be so offended!"

Bioware has proven it can do better than this. DA2 is like one step forward two steps back as far as LadyHawke compares to Shepard, and I was so excited for her back then we were just seeing still shots.
I remember being so BLOWN AWAY playing Mass Effect 1 as a woman Shepard and feeling like I was playing a character designed for me to relate to rather then for a 15 year old boy to oogle because he'd rather stare at a woman's ass then a man's.
It's the difference between going to an open party where no one expected you to show up and trying to have a good time despite odd looks from people around you that tell you you're not wanted, and a party where you were invited, expected and welcome.
The reason people are picking up on things like LadyHawke's run, Miranda's Ass Shot etc is because we KNOW Bioware CAN do better. That they CAN make games where female players can feel welcome as well as male players. There's no reason to alienate part of your audience when the 15 year old boys WILL buy the game regardless of whether Hawke shakes her booty in a near impossible way when she runs.

[borelocin]

lduchek wrote...

Sorry if I am duplicating a thread, but I am having a problem with playing a female character.  She runs like John Wayne used to saunter in his old western movies.  Was this supposed to be a joke?  And, to quote a female friend, she stands stands like a hooker on a street corner.  Come on, BioWare.  Why do you insult your female players like that?../../../images/forum/emoticons/sad.png

Ok, they are still not perfect but (correct me if I am wrong) women ran and stood exactly like men in DA:O.

I think the animations in this game are an improvement.

Now, for a really silly (offensive?) female run type "wonder woman running" into Youtube.

Modifié par borelocin, 28 février 2011 - 09:21 .

[Duros]

The Hawke family is part brazillian.

[Haasth]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

Haasth wrote...

I'm more concerned with Lady Hawke's 'bravery' sound. 
But yes, lets hope they did change the running. The female characters all run a little.. well odd to say the least. 

Thats just hilarious. 

Don't laugh! Lady Hawke is very insecure when it comes to this.