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[tybert7]

I came across this article awhile ago mentioning that around 2/3 of the players of mass effect 2 were soldiers....

http://kotaku.com/#!...s-soldier-dudes

Now maybe over time people tried everything, but I'd really like to know why the common, uninspired soldier is the prime candidate of what gets played in a game like mass effect?


There are obvious possibilities.  It's the "shooter" class, and as we all know, the one thing you can count on all the little kiddies being familiar with and enjoying is taking a gun and firing.  

But why is that more enticing and more compelling than say... using your mind to pick up an enemy and flinging him into the air like a rag doll like an adept can?

The adepts power is not in his gun, he IS the Power.  A god amond insects, and yet people want to play the insects with the pistols.  I don't get it.  I am probably wierd, but there it is.


 So dress me down people, explain to my follish self why the mortal with a gun as more appeal than the mortal with the powers of a demi god.

[AdmiralCheez]

That which carries the most guns is assumed to produce the most testosterone.

[Stupidus]

Reasons:
-First on the class list
-Has access to all weapons except SMGs
-Very friendly to first-timers

Tbh I didn't use an Adept until the fourth playthrough. I'm more of a shooter guy but appreciate spellcasters regardless.

Modifié par Stupidus, 28 février 2011 - 02:32 .

[Bogsnot1]

Personally, I'm more of a fan of vanguard and infiltrator, but in Fantasy based RPG's i tend to favour the beserker or rogue classes, and i see vanguard and infiltrator as extensions of those.
Lack of imagination perhaps?
Or "Harry Potter is gay, guns are cool" mentality.
Or maybe they just have a very small penis and need some form of extension.

[Xilizhra]

Because the soldier is the default, and most people play default.

[Lunatic LK47]

Uh, because combat is easy to get into without requiring excessive micromanagement and to avoid stylized kills? The one reason why I avoid Adepts is because the cooldowns still take an eternity to execute, not to mention in ME2, the defenses made half of the skills useless, forcing me to rely on my teammates for Debuffs. With the Soldier, I can just fire special ammo to whittle down the Armor and shields while killing them as efficiently as possible.

BTW, I'm more of the Batman/Punisher type of person rather than Superman or the X-Men just because I don't relate to demi-Gods.

Modifié par Lunatic LK47, 28 février 2011 - 02:38 .

[habitat 67]

well: Adrenaline Rush.
yep

[Adugan]

The first time I played ME1, I didnt even know there WAS another choice besides Soldier. The screen should make it more clear, imo.

[Sidney]

My first play was Vanguard but my second was a solider and my logic was I've played a "biotic" type so I wanted to do something not all that biotic.

I liked the solider, not having the magic "kill" button that biotics give you does add a different kind of challenge - not the best kind of challenge for me since I can't shoot straight but a challenge none-the-less.

[tybert7]

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

Uh, because combat is easy to get into without requiring excessive micromanagement and to avoid stylized kills? The one reason why I avoid Adepts is because the cooldowns still take an eternity to execute, not to mention in ME2, the defenses made half of the skills useless, forcing me to rely on my teammates for Debuffs. With the Soldier, I can just fire special ammo to whittle down the Armor and shields while killing them as efficiently as possible.

All you need to do is couple a gun that is effective at shredding shields with your native abilities.  It's not difficult.  Also the adepts cooldowns are not exactly long... it''s like the entire attention span of the kids these days is so gnat-like that the tiniest delay produces outrage and frustration.

I see what you have to deal with bioware, just make sure to keep adding the more interesting and frankly, powerful and satisfying classes for those who want to do more than run and gun.  And let the barbarians swing their metal sticks and shoot their bb guns.

[Lunatic LK47]

tybert7 wrote...
All you need to do is couple a gun that is effective at shredding shields with your native abilities.  It's not difficult.  Also the adepts cooldowns are not exactly long... it''s like the entire attention span of the kids these days is so gnat-like that the tiniest delay produces outrage and frustration.

Uh, read all of the other peoples' posts about Adepts not worth the hassle with playing the game on harder difficulties. Any regular player would say "Adept is worth playing as only on Normal." BTW, nice stereotyping here, jack-ass. I'm not one of those "ADD-riddled kids" you just labeled here. I'm 23 years old, and played KOTOR 1 at the age of 16.

If you're wondering why people like playing Soldiers? What's the appeal behind Batman, Indiana Jones, and Han Solo? They're ****ing human.

Modifié par Lunatic LK47, 28 février 2011 - 02:49 .

[Dougy Fresh]

because its a default

and default gamer mentality is.. and i qoute

"O sh**!! lost of bad guys (wildly shoots guns everywhere)"

but its not my favorite

[Alexander Kogan]

I prefer soldiers due to the easier access to the awesome weapons, plus I'm not the type of gamer who likes to wait 2 minutes for biotic/tech powers to recharge while a sizable force of enemies is pounding me like a little b*tch. To me the ammo powers make up for it and I love unleashing Hell with the Inferno grenades and slowing time with Adrenaline rush like in F.E.A.R.

Modifié par Alexander Kogan, 28 février 2011 - 05:08 .

[habitat 67]

Adugan wrote...

The first time I played ME1, I didnt even know there WAS another choice besides Soldier. The screen should make it more clear, imo.

This is very important too. A casual player would have to search to be aware that Female options are available as well as classes that aren't soldier.

[habitat 67]

Lunatic LK47 wrote...

If you're wondering why people like playing Soldiers? What's the appeal behind Batman, Indiana Jones, and Han Solo? They're ****ing human.

Harrison Ford twice? I'll take it.

[The Fan]

 GUNZ

[charmingcharlie]

tybert7 wrote...the one thing you can count on all the little kiddies being familiar with and enjoying is taking a gun and firing.

Hm I am 39 years of age does that make me a little kiddie ?  I appreciate you want to understand why people choose the soldier class but there really wasn't any need to suggest those that prefer the soldier class are all "little kiddies".

I prefer the soldier class for several reasons (listed in order of importance) :-

• I do not like "biotics" they come across as airy fairy magical wizard stuff and I hate that kind of thing.
• Shepard leads a military life and to me that suggests "soldier"
• I enjoy taking a gun and firing it
• I can identify with a battle hardened soldier more than I can with something like an Adept or a Vanguard.

Now I am not saying that the soldier class is the best class.  I am saying it is the best class for me, it is the best way for me to enjoy the game.  If you like playing as an Adept or a Vanguard or Infiltrator then that is great, it doesn't make you "better" or more "mature" it just means you play Mass Effect differently to me.

[Alithinos]

At ME I decided to be an infiltrator. Can't say I didn't liked the Sniper Rifle,but having only pistol and sniper isn't the best combination.
After I created a new character I made him a soldier and I found out that he had an assault rifle,and that the assault rifle was such a good weapon that could have saved me time and stress.
So I started ME2 as a soldier.

[Volus Warlord]

-Retardedly simply to use-point and shoot, use ammo powers if you want to be fancy

-Little need for tactics and strategy

[naledgeborn]

Soldier is my favorite class because Shepard is just a guy with a gun. You have biotics, technical geniuses, and infiltrator operatives serving in one special operations unit. All of them happen to be the best of the best in the galaxy. Shepard's in command of all of them and Soldier Shepard is just a guy with a gun. It makes him that much more badass.

[Sidney]

Volus Warlord wrote...

-Little need for tactics and strategy

right because spamming biotics is sooooooooo deepo thinking. No class requires more or less critical thinking to make it work - well ok Vanguard might be a tougher go than most because your charge can put you into a lot of bad spots.

[Kail Ashton]

It's a TPS game (yeah, it is, deal with it) and Solder has access to all the guns including the only one who gets assault riffle at the start....someone at bioware needs to be fired for that stupid choice

So you can play other classes and get a gimped out smg & handgun, three classes have only that, THREE, ok that is half the classses in the game! that is bull crap & that's why solder is popular, pluss it's a good starter class

[Rolenka]

You have to specifically say you don't want to play as the default John Shepard in order to play as anything else. And until you do that it isn't immediately clear that you even have a choice of playing other classes.

Being able to use any weapon is a big draw, too. You have to be either a Soldier, Infiltrator or Vanguard to use anything cooler than a pistol. At least in ME1 you could add certain weapons as bonus abilities and be a sniper rifle-toting Adept or whatever.

Personally I love the Adept.

[J. Finley]

One of the reasons I don't play a soldier is because it's so popular.