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#3001
fighterchick

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Did anyone catch the Fenris/mage Hawke interactions?

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wikkedjoker wrote...

There still his family, if nothing more than to spare his mother.  But if
you have watched anything he has said there is a clear resentment of
mages. And how by an hour into the game the Templar's in Kurkwall don't
know your a mage is beyond me.


Resentment must, of course, equal always wanting to be a mage hunter out of "spite/ignorance." Ah yes.
I think you may have missed the first part of the live stream where Carver explicitely stated that what he wants is to find his own way. Which is, in my opinion, more than normal for a person of his age.

And it's "Kirkwall" actually, but otherwise I agree.

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tankgirly

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Right.....Where is Nate then? Has he appeared yet?

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Somehow I doubt a completely temporary companion would have a Friendship/Rivalry bar.  We had temporary companions in DA:O and none of them had an approval meter.  I think that depending on your actions,  eventually your sibling is returned to you, as harsh or depressing as the parting may be.  o_o

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not a fan of sandals new voice he souds like a super derp now

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Batfeets wrote...
 We had temporary companions in DA:O and none of them had an approval meter.

*coughs* Mhairi

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JetsoverEverything wrote...

not a fan of sandals new voice he souds like a super derp now

Aw, he has a new voice now too?:(

Modifié par Somebody, 05 mars 2011 - 12:07 .


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Batfeets wrote...

Somehow I doubt a completely temporary companion would have a Friendship/Rivalry bar.  We had temporary companions in DA:O and none of them had an approval meter.  I think that depending on your actions,  eventually your sibling is returned to you, as harsh or depressing as the parting may be.  o_o



yea lol if your sibling did die why would he/she be part of you legend?? im pretty sure they come back at some point

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Batfeets wrote...

Somehow I doubt a completely temporary companion would have a Friendship/Rivalry bar.  We had temporary companions in DA:O and none of them had an approval meter.  I think that depending on your actions,  eventually your sibling is returned to you, as harsh or depressing as the parting may be.  o_o


You could up Mhairi's approval rating. She usually received any leftover Origins gifts.

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Somebody wrote...

JetsoverEverything wrote...

not a fan of sandals new voice he souds like a super derp now

Aw, he has a new voice now too?[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/sad.png[/smilie]


It's mostly that he was more lines. That's definitely a mistake.

Modifié par umwhatyousay, 05 mars 2011 - 12:09 .


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does any one know what the import data is if you use any of the pre-made imports. besides what is said on the wiki?

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umwhatyousay wrote...

Somebody wrote...

JetsoverEverything wrote...

not a fan of sandals new voice he souds like a super derp now

Aw, he has a new voice now too?[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/sad.png[/smilie]


It's mostly that he was more lines. That's definitely a mistake.

What does he say?

#3013
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JetsoverEverything wrote...

Batfeets wrote...

Somehow I doubt a completely temporary companion would have a Friendship/Rivalry bar.  We had temporary companions in DA:O and none of them had an approval meter.  I think that depending on your actions,  eventually your sibling is returned to you, as harsh or depressing as the parting may be.  o_o



yea lol if your sibling did die why would he/she be part of you legend?? im pretty sure they come back at some point


Or they stay around to be part of the beginning of the legend? He didn't tell up to the part where the other sibling may have died. Carver/Bethany only needs to live long enough to stay for them to be recognized in the legend.

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I don't know if it's the guy's playing style or what, but this game does seem a bit boring in parts. Fetch quests and go do this rather than some...real goal. :S

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Chignon wrote...

wikkedjoker wrote...

There still his family, if nothing more than to spare his mother.  But if
you have watched anything he has said there is a clear resentment of
mages. And how by an hour into the game the Templar's in Kurkwall don't
know your a mage is beyond me.


Resentment must, of course, equal always wanting to be a mage hunter out of "spite/ignorance." Ah yes.
I think you may have missed the first part of the live stream where Carver explicitely stated that what he wants is to find his own way. Which is, in my opinion, more than normal for a person of his age.

And it's "Kirkwall" actually, but otherwise I agree.

Finding his own way. . . right into the Templar's? The very people who have been hunting people like his family there entire life?

In that situation your gonna resent 1 of 2 things ether the Templar's or the Mage's.

Maybe he doesn't deserve to die. However it seems more likely that if you take him with you he dies. If you leave him home at rival he joins the Templar's if he like you he joins the Wardens.

Granted I'm not sure if this is true but it seems likely and if hes so easily swayed into becoming a mage hunter can you honestly say it was his own way? Or was it resentment?

#3016
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lx_theo wrote...

JetsoverEverything wrote...

Batfeets wrote...

Somehow I doubt a completely temporary companion would have a Friendship/Rivalry bar.  We had temporary companions in DA:O and none of them had an approval meter.  I think that depending on your actions,  eventually your sibling is returned to you, as harsh or depressing as the parting may be.  o_o



yea lol if your sibling did die why would he/she be part of you legend?? im pretty sure they come back at some point


Or they stay around to be part of the beginning of the legend? He didn't tell up to the part where the other sibling may have died. Carver/Bethany only needs to live long enough to stay for them to be recognized in the legend.


ahh thats right i didnt take that into consideration

#3017
wikkedjoker

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Batfeets wrote...

Somehow I doubt a completely temporary companion would have a Friendship/Rivalry bar.  We had temporary companions in DA:O and none of them had an approval meter.  I think that depending on your actions,  eventually your sibling is returned to you, as harsh or depressing as the parting may be.  o_o

Or depending on there bar it decides what they become.Good to tham and agree with everything they do, they become Wardens don't and they become Templar and trapped in the Tower, take them with you and they die.

Modifié par wikkedjoker, 05 mars 2011 - 12:17 .


#3018
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@Fighterchicks, It might be because you're staring at some zebra/jesus/moses Hawke rather than your Hawke, so it cuts out the immersive element.

#3019
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Do not like zebra!Hawke, that's for sure.

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Zebra Hawke totally killed immersion for me...


the part that interested me most was Flemeth's interaction with Merril...could Flemeth be one of the old Elven Gods?

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Ah! Now you at least downgraded it into resentment and not spite and ignorance, wikkedjoker.

wikkedjoker wrote...

Maybe he doesn't deserve to die.


And that was my whole point and all I wanted you to think about. However, we'll have to agree to disagree on the rest.

#3022
fighterchick

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Isabela and Fenris flirting. >_< AWKWARD.

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wikkedjoker wrote...
Granted I'm not sure if this is true but it seems likely and if hes so easily swayed into becoming a mage hunter can you honestly say it was his own way? Or was it resentment?


If I'm not mistaken,  Templars are 1/3 of the parties that power in kirkwall is pulled between.  He has no way of joining mages, resentment or not,  and the Qun is out.   From what I've seen it seems apparent Carver wants power. He wants recognition for once. He wants the ability to well...not rot in a tiny shack on the side of nowhere.  Templars are more than mage hunters and have been shown in the past to protect their chantries...they seem like a military/policing force, as well as that.  It is his own way,  especially if he avoids going after/bringing attention to Hawke,  when turning him/her in would actually further his advancement.

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To be honest, I'd rather have them be grey wardens instead of circle/templar. Being a templar means Carver basically becomes a mage hunting drug addict under Chantry rule which I don't want. And I'd rather not have Bethany be captured and mistreated in the Circle. At least being a Warden earns you freedom from the Chantry for a while and you get some respect in places which is better than the other options. I hope they can become Wardens when they get tainted in the Deep Roads D:

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Can someone explain to me how a rivalry romance with a mage Hawke and Fenris would work out?

Like.. he would hate me.. but he would... want me? >_<