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He's headless. Headless people don't talk.

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Dasher1010 wrote...

So if Bethany, Carver and Isabela are just temporary companions, why did the devs says that they were full companions and treat them as such? This is beyond lame. Correction, this is Mhairi lame since all three of them are like Mhairi in the sense that they're only there for the intro and you play through most of the game without them.


They're not on the companion list though, are they?

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Calla S wrote...

This seems like an odd question, but... what did Dumar sound like?



Old and wise

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Sakanade wrote...

Calla S wrote...

This seems like an odd question, but... what did Dumar sound like?



Old and wise


He sounded like Arl Eamon or First Enchanter Irving.

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Dasher1010 wrote...
He's headless. Headless people don't talk.

I've never been so impressed by wit in my entire life.

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Calla S wrote...

Dasher1010 wrote...
He's headless. Headless people don't talk.

I've never been so impressed by wit in my entire life.


lol

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klace anything new mate

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gethslayer7 wrote...

klace anything new mate

He just said that the clan Merril for the keeper's death and it trying to kill Hawke and co.

(Editing for forgetting a word -_-")

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Ex-Paladin wrote...

gethslayer7 wrote...

klace anything new mate

He just said that the clan Merril for the keeper's death and it trying to kill Hawke and co.


He means to say that Merrill's keeper is really a demon and Hawke kills her. The clan is now seeking vengeance.

Modifié par Dasher1010, 05 mars 2011 - 10:19 .


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Bah so if i understand correctly, if i want to romance Fenris, i must side with the templars and be something else rather than a mage. Or this just triggers friendship? And you can romance him via rivalry way.

Anders seems really sweet and he would be very supportive but i want some action! >8D

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ankuu wrote...

Bah so if i understand correctly, if i want to romance Fenris, i must side with the templars and be something else rather than a mage. Or this just triggers friendship? And you can romance him via rivalry way.

Anders seems really sweet and he would be very supportive but i want some action! >8D


Fenris can be romanced as a rival. That way if you're a mage looking to free other mages, Fenris can still love you, just make sure to ****** him off as much as possible until he's at max rivalry.

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Dasher1010 wrote...

ankuu wrote...

Bah so if i understand correctly, if i want to romance Fenris, i must side with the templars and be something else rather than a mage. Or this just triggers friendship? And you can romance him via rivalry way.

Anders seems really sweet and he would be very supportive but i want some action! >8D


Fenris can be romanced as a rival. That way if you're a mage looking to free other mages, Fenris can still love you, just make sure to ****** him off as much as possible until he's at max rivalry.


Omg thank youuu! This saved my idea of the first playthrough ^^ I will surely ****** him off like there's no tomorrow :D

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Dasher1010 wrote...

Ex-Paladin wrote...

gethslayer7 wrote...

klace anything new mate

He just said that the clan Merril for the keeper's death and it trying to kill Hawke and co.


She means to say that Merrill's keeper is really a demon and Hawke kills her. The clan is now seeking vengeance.

*Coughsfixedwhatisbolded* and yeah, I forgot to add "blames" :pinched: I have a bad habit of saying a word in my head and then just skipping it and typing what was to become after it

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ankuu wrote...

Dasher1010 wrote...

ankuu wrote...

Bah so if i understand correctly, if i want to romance Fenris, i must side with the templars and be something else rather than a mage. Or this just triggers friendship? And you can romance him via rivalry way.

Anders seems really sweet and he would be very supportive but i want some action! >8D


Fenris can be romanced as a rival. That way if you're a mage looking to free other mages, Fenris can still love you, just make sure to ****** him off as much as possible until he's at max rivalry.


Omg thank youuu! This saved my idea of the first playthrough ^^ I will surely ****** him off like there's no tomorrow :D


Just until he's locked in as a rival. Once he's at max rivalry, you can treat him however you want, including romancing him.

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anything about cassandra

#3666
Dasher1010

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Is it just me or is this site becoming more unstable as the night goes on?

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Dasher1010 wrote...

Is it just me or is this site becoming more unstable as the night goes on?


Yep!

More unstable, that is.

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Is lookingglass here ?
P.S. sorry for the off topic! >_<

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@Dasher1010, it's been like that all day.

That Merrill being used thing.......there was an episode in Doctor Who who Eve Myles made an appearance had the similar storyline.

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*Reads all the spoilers*
*Head expodes*
Ahem... my first playthrough is going to be DISASTER

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@Lolrain, don't worry. My first Origin playthrough can only be describe as chaotic!
It will get better.

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*reads through some pages*

Anders left the party to work on something?! Did he really separate himself from Justice at this time?

Marethari was inhabited by the demon, I think I expected that much.

And ALISTAIR, what was the Warden doing when Teagan mentioned the Warden coming back?

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@RinjiRenee, a bit strange, isn't it? What the hell was the Warden doing? Travel back from Antiva?

Wait, what happened to Zev?

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tankgirly wrote...

@Lolrain, don't worry. My first Origin playthrough can only be describe as chaotic!
It will get better.

Mine was oh I CAN set Tactics!!!

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Am going to bed soon, it's way past midnight here.
So I might as well do an early summary before bed, no?

First things first, we have this lovely warning from the dev today:

Lukas Kristjanson wrote...

A reminder for the late shift, spoilers stay in this thread which is tolerated only because it is clearly marked. No drift to other threads. And hey, as a personal preference, how about no giggly little "OMG, I just heard something, go to spoilerz!" posts. Seriously, don't be that guy.



And no more stream link . We got warning, too.

And for the safe measure, I removed all the screenie you guys had painstakingly taken. Thank you. I will keep it in a save file and quard it day and night.

The bold ones are the updates since the last post.


Summary


1. Zevran appeared in one of the Sundermount quest. His screenie
2. Nathaniel appeared in one of the Deep Road quest.
3. Leliana appeared in one of the Basti quest. Possible Leliana
4. Fenris live in what possibly his former master's mansion (next door to Hawk's), Merill in Alienage, Anders in his clinic, Isabela and Varric, not certain about Aveline or Basti
5. There is a cap on levels, though I got very confused about the numbers.
6. Bethany has three endings: Join the Circle, Died in the Deep Road, or Join the GW (?)
7. Carver has three endings: Join the Templar, Died in the DR, or Join the GW.
8. The talking darkspawn Disciple appeared in the DR.
9. There is something about Meredith's eyes.
10. Meredith is one of the final boss.
11. Defeating Meredith is one of the secret achievement.
12. Some dialogue by Hawk's mother hinted she was not aware of whatever Hawk's relationship was in.
13. Hawk was&amp;amp;nbsp; in Kirkwall when the news of the Blight was finished by the Warden reached him/her.

14. Fenris' former Tevinter Magister Master's name is Danarius.
15. A quick look at the erf files hints that these are some of the gifts for the companions. Take this as extreme speculation:

Anders: Key + an amulet
Aveline: Shield
Fenris: Book + a sword
Isabela: Ship?! + a talisman
Merrill: Halla?! + a ring
Sebastian: Bow

How to access the file from the demo: Program Files>Dragon Age 2 Demo>modules>campaign_base>data>designerplots in wordpad/notepad and search "gift".
16. There is a new blood mage speciality (?)
17. And Aveline/Quanary Quest Link
18. Fenris apprear to hate mage and thinks everyone should be made tranquil. (Possible only rivarly romance route for the mage Hawk).
19. Anders appear to hate Templar.
20. Merrill appears to be bi.
21. Cullen appeared in one of the guest, along with some guy named Wilmod LInk
22. There is a brothel in Kirkwall (right, very important to some of us!).
23. There is a blood mage sanctuary and it doesn't seem to be Anders clinic.
24. Carver and Bethany's codex entries
25. DA II Gaming guide
(possiblly partial)

26. According to the quides. Cameos from the Origins series:


Alistair
Leliana
Zevran
Nathaniel
Bodhan and Sandal
Cullen
Justice?
Sketch
Bonny Lem
Sophia Dryden

27.Infos floating around 4chan suggested Flemeth might played bigger role in DA II (possibly the spirit possessed Meredith).
28. Basti is an LI.
29. It is very strongly suggested Anders could be bi (from his flirt with H!Hawk and the traguil mage KArl he was trying to rescue).
30. The ritual mentionted in Merrill's backstory involves her chanting in Dalish and Flemeth pops out of the amulet (Lord Vordy in HP!!!!!!!!!!!!!). IT seems she put a little piece of her soul in it because she figured that Morrigan would come back with the Warden to kill her. She gives some cryptic advice and says that she's thankful, but she pities Hawke because of the road ahead. She then turns into a dragon and flies off.
31. Sandle was in game.
32. Zathrian was mentioned in game.
33. There is minore flirting line on Carver to Merrill!!!OMG!!!!
34. Merrill: "Why do they called it Brothel? Does that have something do to with broth?"
35. Cullen is now the Knight Captain (wow).
36. Fenris is also strongly suggested he is bi. We now have all 4 bi.
37. There are several Qunari related quest in Kirkwall (to my delight).
38.Fenris's preslave name is Leto.
39. Fenris had a sister, who was sided with Danarius, his former magister master.
40. One of the quest to separate Anders and Justice.

41. When going to the Deep Road, if you take Bethany/Carver with you, Bethany/Carver will contract the taint and you will have the choice to slay them or leave them in the DR. This is possibly when your Awakening import save file click in. Nathaniel will save Bethany/Carver by making them a Grey Warden.
42. If you leave them in their estate, Bethany will be dragged away and join the Circle and Carver will join the Templar willingly.
43. Mama Hawk could be died,too.

44. Zevran will flirt with you and tried to sleep with you, then your LI will step in.
45. The Warden will be mentioned by Zevran.
46. Hawk can sleep with Zevran.
47. The "relic" was a holy Qunari book written by the founder of the Qun religion.
48. The Arishok will not be allowed to leave Kirkwall until he finds that book.
49. Issie knew a along what the relic was.
50. During the Fade quest, a demon would offer Merrill a scion of the Dalish. Delined to let Merrill to do it will result in rivalry level inclease.
51. Merill has an Eluvian in her bedroom and her quests are trying to get it back in working order.

52. There will be LI confrontation.
53. Aveline will remarried and honeymooned in Orlais.
54. If you made Bhelen king in DA:O Harrowmont's relative is in Kirkwall.
55. There's a man being confronted by a group of dalish, and he said he used to be a werewolf, but the hero of Ferelden helped him turn back. And he said he was sorry for killing the elves when he was a werwolf, but the dalish still want to kill him. You can step in and help him, and the elves get angry and attack.
56. The subquests hinting the main plot: Mages V.S. Templars.
57. At one stage you will receive the letter from King Alistair, which triggered the cameo (assumed you let Alistair as king in Origin) of Ali and Teagan.
58. Cullen was also suspecious of Meredith.
59. Merrill was being used by the demon to complete the mirror so they can channel to the real world (Doctor Who!!!!!!!!!)
60. Merrill's Keeper was the demon (no wonder she looks different) and her clan will turn against you once you kill her.




Next update will be at around 180 (or somewhere close)

Modifié par tankgirly, 05 mars 2011 - 11:39 .