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[OHM_LO]

tankgirly wrote...

Am going to bed soon, it's way past midnight here.
So I might as well do an early summary before bed, no?

First things first, we have this lovely warning from the dev today:

Lukas Kristjanson wrote...

A reminder for the late shift, spoilers stay in this thread which is tolerated only because it is clearly marked. No drift to other threads. And hey, as a personal preference, how about no giggly little "OMG, I just heard something, go to spoilerz!" posts. Seriously, don't be that guy.

And no more stream link . We got warning, too.

And for the safe measure, I removed all the screenie you guys had painstakingly taken. Thank you. I will keep it in a save file and quard it day and night.

The bold ones are the updates since the last post.

Summary


1. Zevran appeared in one of the Sundermount quest. His screenie
2. Nathaniel appeared in one of the Deep Road quest.
3. Leliana appeared in one of the Basti quest. Possible Leliana
4. Fenris live in what possibly his former master's mansion (next door to Hawk's), Merill in Alienage, Anders in his clinic, Isabela and Varric, not certain about Aveline or Basti
5. There is a cap on levels, though I got very confused about the numbers.
6. Bethany has three endings: Join the Circle, Died in the Deep Road, or Join the GW (?)
7. Carver has three endings: Join the Templar, Died in the DR, or Join the GW.
8. The talking darkspawn Disciple appeared in the DR.
9. There is something about Meredith's eyes.
10. Meredith is one of the final boss.
11. Defeating Meredith is one of the secret achievement.
12. Some dialogue by Hawk's mother hinted she was not aware of whatever Hawk's relationship was in.
13. Hawk was  in Kirkwall when the news of the Blight was finished by the Warden reached him/her.

14. Fenris' former Tevinter Magister Master's name is Danarius.
15. A quick look at the erf files hints that these are some of the gifts for the companions. Take this as extreme speculation:

Anders: Key + an amulet
Aveline: Shield
Fenris: Book + a sword
Isabela: Ship?! + a talisman
Merrill: Halla?! + a ring
Sebastian: Bow

How to access the file from the demo: Program Files>Dragon Age 2 Demo>modules>campaign_base>data>designerplots in wordpad/notepad and search "gift".
16. There is a new blood mage speciality (?)
17. And Aveline/Quanary Quest Link
18. Fenris apprear to hate mage and thinks everyone should be made tranquil. (Possible only rivarly romance route for the mage Hawk).
19. Anders appear to hate Templar.
20. Merrill appears to be bi.
21. Cullen appeared in one of the guest, along with some guy named Wilmod LInk
22. There is a brothel in Kirkwall (right, very important to some of us!).
23. There is a blood mage sanctuary and it doesn't seem to be Anders clinic.
24. Carver and Bethany's codex entries
25. DA II Gaming guide
(possiblly partial)
26. According to the quides. Cameos from the Origins series:


Alistair
Leliana
Zevran
Nathaniel
Bodhan and Sandal
Cullen
Justice?
Sketch
Bonny Lem
Sophia Dryden

27.Infos floating around 4chan suggested Flemeth might played bigger role in DA II (possibly the spirit possessed Meredith).
28. Basti is an LI.
29. It is very strongly suggested Anders could be bi (from his flirt with H!Hawk and the traguil mage KArl he was trying to rescue).
30. The ritual mentionted in Merrill's backstory involves her chanting in Dalish and Flemeth pops out of the amulet (Lord Vordy in HP!!!!!!!!!!!!!). IT seems she put a little piece of her soul in it because she figured that Morrigan would come back with the Warden to kill her. She gives some cryptic advice and says that she's thankful, but she pities Hawke because of the road ahead. She then turns into a dragon and flies off.
31. Sandle was in game.
32. Zathrian was mentioned in game.
33. There is minore flirting line on Carver to Merrill!!!OMG!!!!
34. Merrill: "Why do they called it Brothel? Does that have something do to with broth?"
35. Cullen is now the Knight Captain (wow).
36. Fenris is also strongly suggested he is bi. We now have all 4 bi.
37. There are several Qunari related quest in Kirkwall (to my delight).
38.Fenris's preslave name is Leto.
39. Fenris had a sister, who was sided with Danarius, his former magister master.
40. One of the quest to separate Anders and Justice.

41. When going to the Deep Road, if you take Bethany/Carver with you, Bethany/Carver will contract the taint and you will have the choice to slay them or leave them in the DR. This is possibly when your Awakening import save file click in. Nathaniel will save Bethany/Carver by making them a Grey Warden.
42. If you leave them in their estate, Bethany will be dragged away and join the Circle and Carver will join the Templar willingly.
43. Mama Hawk could be died,too.

44. Zevran will flirt with you and tried to sleep with you, then your LI will step in.
45. The Warden will be mentioned by Zevran.
46. Hawk can sleep with Zevran.
47. The "relic" was a holy Qunari book written by the founder of the Qun religion.
48. The Arishok will not be allowed to leave Kirkwall until he finds that book.
49. Issie knew a along what the relic was.
50. During the Fade quest, a demon would offer Merrill a scion of the Dalish. Delined to let Merrill to do it will result in rivalry level inclease.
51. Merill has an Eluvian in her bedroom and her quests are trying to get it back in working order.

52. There will be LI confrontation.
53. Aveline will remarried and honeymooned in Orlais.
54. If you made Bhelen king in DA:O Harrowmont's relative is in Kirkwall.
55. There's a man being confronted by a group of dalish, and he said he used to be a werewolf, but the hero of Ferelden helped him turn back. And he said he was sorry for killing the elves when he was a werwolf, but the dalish still want to kill him. You can step in and help him, and the elves get angry and attack.
56. The subquests hinting the main plot: Mages V.S. Templars.
57. At one stage you will receive the letter from King Alistair, which triggered the cameo (assumed you let Alistair as king in Origin) of Ali and Teagan.
58. Cullen was also suspecious of Meredith.
59. Merrill was being used by the demon to complete the mirror so they can channel to the real world (Doctor Who!!!!!!!!!)
60. Merrill's Keeper was the demon (no wonder she looks different) and her clan will turn against you once you kill her.

Next update will be at around 180 (or somewhere close)

Food for thought about Hawke’s mother: 

In the deeproads you find a treasure with it you can buy back your mansion, after that
Hawkes mother is very grateful.

Was she not killed when Hawke was away on the deeproad quest?.. In other words, she can be saved.  
Or am I missing something here? 

Modifié par OHM_LO, 05 mars 2011 - 02:06 .

[The Elder King]

OHM_LO, it could be that the player doesn't do a certain quest (fnd this person that kills women) and for this Leandra is dead. I am not sure, but it could be a possibility.

[Hosothemando]

Why the Hell am I still reading these spoilers? When we get the game, we won't even be surprised now. I'm outta this thread. I'm going to save what's left of DA2 for when it is released.

[RPGamer13]

Wait, so the Dalish Keeper from the Dalish Origin was a demon!?

If true: interesting indeed.

I wonder what happens between Zevran and Isa if she's your romance partner.

[Erani]

 I still can't get over Zevran flirting/sleeping with Hawke if my MWarden romanced him and got his ring (and after Awakening went to Antiva to join Zevran and the Crows..ok even if this is not exactly what happened they still got together somehow)....unless Zevran doesn't sleep with Hawke if romanced in Origins...

[thesuperdarkone]

Erani wrote...

 I still can't get over Zevran flirting/sleeping with Hawke if my MWarden romanced him and got his ring (and after Awakening went to Antiva to join Zevran and the Crows..ok even if this is not exactly what happened they still got together somehow)....unless Zevran doesn't sleep with Hawke if romanced in Origins...

 

Apparently no one can tame Zev :D

But seriously, I want to know, where and how do we get the legendary armor in the actual game?

[Maelora]

Not liking the way the game seems to be disregarding our Origins decisions...

[Rinji the Bearded]

I think trying to judge how one game regards everyone's Origins decisions is it a bit quick yet...

[thesuperdarkone]

RinjiRenee wrote...

I think trying to judge how one game regards everyone's Origins decisions is it a bit quick yet...

 

Not to mention the spoilers come from a default game. For all we know, your game could be wildly different

[arsonic]

thesuperdarkone wrote...

Erani wrote...

 I still can't get over Zevran flirting/sleeping with Hawke if my MWarden romanced him and got his ring (and after Awakening went to Antiva to join Zevran and the Crows..ok even if this is not exactly what happened they still got together somehow)....unless Zevran doesn't sleep with Hawke if romanced in Origins...

 

Apparently no one can tame Zev :D

But seriously, I want to know, where and how do we get the legendary armor in the actual game?

He's using the default "Hero of Ferelden" save I believe, which doesn't account for any romances. So it's entirely possible if you did romance Zevran, those lines don't happen. On the other hand, in Origins, you could be romancing him and he'd still hit on Leliana and even Wynne, so who knows. Inappropriate comments are sort of his thing, who knows if he'd go through with it 

In any case, this game might not be the best to judge Origins decisions carrying over on, as from what I can tell, the preloaded saves that come with the game only hit the major plot flags (who's king, dark ritual, etc.) It'll be interesting to see how a full fledged save with romances and side quests carries over.

[Rinji the Bearded]

thesuperdarkone wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

I think trying to judge how one game regards everyone's Origins decisions is it a bit quick yet...

 

Not to mention the spoilers come from a default game. For all we know, your game could be wildly different

Exactly.  We'll have to wait for the actual game to come out in order to find out for ourselves.

THEN we may start an angry mob with pitchforks and torches.

[Annarl]

Maelora wrote...

Not liking the way the game seems to be disregarding our Origins decisions...

This is concerning for me as well. 

[Maelora]

I created a new Warden just for Awakening because I wanted my Origins happy ending with Leliana. She promised we'd go off travelling, not overseeing some crappy Keep. I did my bit for Ferelden, I'm through with the Grey Wardens 'til the Calling. How come she goes back to the Chantry??? Not happy.

[Maelora]

Autolycus wrote...
Did you expect anything else Maelora?

Not really Autolycus... but it's still depressing.

My hopes weren't high when they handwaved Anders.

[KenKenpachi]

Hmm dunno if I'm trusting any of this myself. 4-Chan is only good for being jackasses, and shutting down pay-pal. And I find it...odd that they would have all this information out in the open with a little digging on the Demo. Waiting to the 8th then I'll cross check the above list with whats on DA wiki.

[Stevie 402]

hhh89 wrote...

OHM_LO, it could be that the player doesn't do a certain quest (fnd this person that kills women) and for this Leandra is dead. I am not sure, but it could be a possibility.

Or it could be that if you leave Bethany/ Carver behind during the deep roads ex[edition they protect mama hawke from what ever danger but then are either dragged to the circle to join( Bethany) or willingly join the Templars( wesley).

[JetsoverEverything]

Stevie 402 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

OHM_LO, it could be that the player doesn't do a certain quest (fnd this person that kills women) and for this Leandra is dead. I am not sure, but it could be a possibility.

Or it could be that if you leave Bethany/ Carver behind during the deep roads expedition they protect mama hawke from what ever danger but then are either dragged to the circle to join( Bethany) or willingly join the Templars( Carver).

Fixed that for you

Modifié par JetsoverEverything, 05 mars 2011 - 03:55 .

[JetsoverEverything]

Maelora wrote...

I created a new Warden just for Awakening because I wanted my Origins happy ending with Leliana. She promised we'd go off travelling, not overseeing some crappy Keep. I did my bit for Ferelden, I'm through with the Grey Wardens 'til the Calling. How come she goes back to the Chantry??? Not happy.

oh you played the game already nice got any new info to share with us?

[Erani]

arsonic wrote...

thesuperdarkone wrote...

Erani wrote...

 I still can't get over Zevran flirting/sleeping with Hawke if my MWarden romanced him and got his ring (and after Awakening went to Antiva to join Zevran and the Crows..ok even if this is not exactly what happened they still got together somehow)....unless Zevran doesn't sleep with Hawke if romanced in Origins...

 

Apparently no one can tame Zev :D

But seriously, I want to know, where and how do we get the legendary armor in the actual game?

He's using the default "Hero of Ferelden" save I believe, which doesn't account for any romances. So it's entirely possible if you did romance Zevran, those lines don't happen. On the other hand, in Origins, you could be romancing him and he'd still hit on Leliana and even Wynne, so who knows. Inappropriate comments are sort of his thing, who knows if he'd go through with it 

In any case, this game might not be the best to judge Origins decisions carrying over on, as from what I can tell, the preloaded saves that come with the game only hit the major plot flags (who's king, dark ritual, etc.) It'll be interesting to see how a full fledged save with romances and side quests carries over.

May the Maker listen to your words child! :innocent: Hopefully if we romance Zevran in Origins, he may flirt but not sleep with Hawke. 

[Sargerus]

"The subquests hinting the main plot: Mages V.S. Templar"

Really? REALLY?

i want more darkspawn lore FFS

Modifié par Sargerus, 05 mars 2011 - 04:07 .

[OHM_LO]

Stevie 402 wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

OHM_LO, it could be that the player doesn't do a certain quest (fnd this person that kills women) and for this Leandra is dead. I am not sure, but it could be a possibility.

Or it could be that if you leave Bethany/ Carver behind during the deep roads ex[edition they protect mama hawke from what ever danger but then are either dragged to the circle to join( Bethany) or willingly join the Templars( wesley).

Another argument that you can save Hawke’s mother is a discussion:

 Hawke’s to his/her mother ”it’s been 3 years already.. Let it go” (aimed at the prolog death incident of one of Hawke’s
siblings).

From what I have gathered, the deeproad expedition is at the end of act 1, in other words –
only one year after the prolog.

Though on the other hand I’m not all that convinced mother death scene even takes place
during the darkroad expedition.. <_<

Modifié par OHM_LO, 05 mars 2011 - 04:07 .

[True Zarken]

I really, really hope my Lel isn't back at the chantry in my savefile  My Cousland Warden would go for the Calling automatically if he heard his Orlesian Rose was back at the Chantry. Haha 

Anyway keep up the greatwork guys! I'm enjoying it! 

Modifié par True Zarken, 05 mars 2011 - 04:12 .

[The Elder King]

Guys, about the import influence, what we saw is a single playthrough with a default import (the Hero of Ferelden). We don't know what happens if she import our playthrough.
I am worried too about that, but I think that we have to wait to play or to read info about players that import their DAO savefile.