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#3751
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Oh my head is spinning!!

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Sorry guys, I made a mistake. The name of Anders's spells after Panacea is Aid Allies and Regroup, though the icons are the same of the Revive and Group Heal spells, so probably they have the same functions, sicne Anders is a healer.
edit: and after Vengeance sustained spell there is 1 ative and two passive spells.

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dreamextractor wrote...

JSLfromBx wrote...

Would be nice of the people who got the same if they could do something actually usefull like posting up to date information on skill tree and specialization instead of completly giving away all the story of the game.


This thread is called a SPOILER thread for a reason, people want spoilers so they're going to post spoilers first instead.


yes Mr smartass  it says spoiler, nowhere does it say Story spoiler. there is world of differences betwen gameplay spoilers and ruining the entire plot of the game.

Gameplay spoiler help making your first playthrough more enjoyable as it help avoiding mistake when building your party.
Story spoilers, well there is nothing even remotely positive about story spoiler.

Knowing that bethany is only a temporary companion who never unlock any specialisation, well that's gameplay spoiler as you know you can't rely on her when building your party.
Knowing WHY she is not available for long is a huge story spoiler that serve no purpose other than ruining your enjoyment of your first playthrough.

a shame that so many on this thread seem to be incapable of undertsanding the difference.

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SurelyForth wrote...

ladyofpayne wrote...

LI fght...
I will NEVER play FHAwke because I want to see Fenris and Anders in jeulously!:P


I'm sure the LIs fight over Hawke regardless of gender. I wonder if you could get a four-way jealousy fight going...

I know. But M vs M for M is very funny.:devil:

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It says Super spoilers, if you can't tell that means there will probably be story spoilers, well I don't know.

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So you have to play awakening and let nathaniel live to save your sister or brother from death?

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RogueGeth wrote...

So you have to play awakening and let nathaniel live to save your sister or brother from death?


We don't know how it works (unless I missed some info). The only way to know is with someone who import a DAA savefile with Nate in DA2.

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Anyone else getting 'crapsack world' feel from the spoilers so far? I mean, Origins had its grim moments, but this feels like wallowing in despair.

First sibling redshirted, second one killed or conscripted... Mom gets murdered by a serial killer? They REALLY didn't want to do the 'hero with a family' thing, did they?

What's next, your mabari gets served up as main course at a Qunari restaurant?

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Maelora wrote...

Anyone else getting 'crapsack world' feel from the spoilers so far? I mean, Origins had its grim moments, but this feels like wallowing in despair.

First sibling redshirted, second one killed or conscripted... Mom gets murdered by a serial killer? They REALLY didn't want to do the 'hero with a family' thing, did they?


Yeah this is definitely crapsack world. Makes Origins and Awakening look like a children' s book in my opinion.

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I always thought Origins was way too depressing and misanthropic. Awakening was worse. I'm not surprised by the spoilers at all. I understand that stories need conflict, but it's really hard to get invested in a world of perpetual despair. And why should I care about my choices? Whatever, game. Follow your heart. Your cold, black little heart.

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RogueGeth wrote...
Yeah this is definitely crapsack world. Makes Origins and Awakening look like a children' s book in my opinion.


But piling on the misery just numbs you to it all.   I can see why they did the Kaiden/Ashley thing with your siblings.   But layering it all on like this feels overkill.

By the time your mom is dismembered by a lunatic, Hawke's just gonna shrug and say 'tough day'...

I'm not seeing a whole load of choices here either.  Feels like bad stuff just happens, not as a result of your choices, but because '**** happens'....

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Maelora wrote...

Anyone else getting 'crapsack world' feel from the spoilers so far? I mean, Origins had its grim moments, but this feels like wallowing in despair.

First sibling redshirted, second one killed or conscripted... Mom gets murdered by a serial killer? They REALLY didn't want to do the 'hero with a family' thing, did they?

What's next, your mabari gets served up as main course at a Qunari restaurant?


I hope there is a possibility to save Hawke's mother. I understand that her death happened during the timeskip from the Act 1 to the Act 2. But we know that Leandra could talk to Hawke in the Amell Estate, so maybe it depends to certain quest you have to do.

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Maelora wrote...

Anyone else getting 'crapsack world' feel from the spoilers so far? I mean, Origins had its grim moments, but this feels like wallowing in despair.

First sibling redshirted, second one killed or conscripted... Mom gets murdered by a serial killer? They REALLY didn't want to do the 'hero with a family' thing, did they?

What's next, your mabari gets served up as main course at a Qunari restaurant?


I couldn't agree more with you, Maelora.

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naughty Merrill

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Chignon wrote...

Maelora wrote...

Anyone else getting 'crapsack world' feel from the spoilers so far? I mean, Origins had its grim moments, but this feels like wallowing in despair.

First sibling redshirted, second one killed or conscripted... Mom gets murdered by a serial killer? They REALLY didn't want to do the 'hero with a family' thing, did they?

What's next, your mabari gets served up as main course at a Qunari restaurant?


I couldn't agree more with you, Maelora.


It is starting to feel a little depressing.:unsure:  Hopefulling there are some moments of joy :D or at least happiness.:happy:

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To be honest, all of the spoilers have actually turned me off from the game a bit. Not because I spoiled myself, but because the game seems so dark =\\ All of the LIs seem to have issues, your family (possibly) all dies, etc.

I'm sure I'll still love the game when I play it. I don't mind a few dark things in a game, but I like happy endings. Hopefully there's at least some kind of happy ending. Probably not. But I can hope.

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Chignon wrote...
I couldn't agree more with you, Maelora.


I mean sure, I expected some losses and some knocks... But I'd hope they would tie into your choices. 

Even in the ME2 suicide mission, people die only if you've messed up.   Likewise, in DAO it was possible to kill off companions by making bad choices.

I appreciate we haven't seen the whole game yet, but this just feels like overkill misery to me. 

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hhh89 wrote...


I hope there is a possibility to save Hawke's mother. I understand that her death happened during the timeskip from the Act 1 to the Act 2. But we know that Leandra could talk to Hawke in the Amell Estate, so maybe it depends to certain quest you have to do.


Maybe the point is getting the Amell state. Some of the bad situations mentioned were the kind you could usually persuade/intimidate your way out in Origins. Is it no longer possible, or did these players not care?

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Ericander77 wrote...

*snip*

naughty Merrill


Did I miss something? When did that happen? :blink:

I wonder if this game gets any darker? They gotta have a little bit of happiness right? RIGHT?

Modifié par True Zarken, 05 mars 2011 - 06:34 .


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Nerevar-as wrote...

hhh89 wrote...


I hope there is a possibility to save Hawke's mother. I understand that her death happened during the timeskip from the Act 1 to the Act 2. But we know that Leandra could talk to Hawke in the Amell Estate, so maybe it depends to certain quest you have to do.


Maybe the point is getting the Amell state. Some of the bad situations mentioned were the kind you could usually persuade/intimidate your way out in Origins. Is it no longer possible, or did these players not care?


I don't know. About Leandra, I think that maybe there is a rumour (I saw that in the mission menu) that talks about this killer. And if you deal with him, you can save your mother. But this is only my speculation. I really hope there is a way to save Leandra.

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Anyone else now wonder if there's going to be an Aeris moment in DA2? That is, unavoidable specific companion death? Surely they couldn't get away with something so crudely manipulative as that in 2011... could they?

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hhh89 wrote...

I don't know. About Leandra, I think that maybe there is a rumour (I saw that in the mission menu) that talks about this killer. And if you deal with him, you can save your mother. But this is only my speculation. I really hope there is a way to save Leandra.


It's an incentive to complete the side mission at least :unsure:

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True Zarken wrote...

Ericander77 wrote...

*snip*

naughty Merrill


Did I miss something? When did that happen? :blink:

I wonder if this game gets any darker? They gotta have a little bit of happiness right? RIGHT?



there is a player who has the game alreddy and is having a s/s romance with merrill

there are other screenshots of the same scene early on this forum (like ALOT earlyer) all the screen shots are off the DA wiki

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Ericander77 wrote...

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naughty Merrill


DAT ASS :o

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True Zarken wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

I don't know. About Leandra, I think that maybe there is a rumour (I saw that in the mission menu) that talks about this killer. And if you deal with him, you can save your mother. But this is only my speculation. I really hope there is a way to save Leandra.


It's an incentive to complete the side mission at least :unsure:

I though they said something about the side quest, that can have influence in the world if you don't do them, or about the outcome you choose. Personally, I'm not going to the final act quest until I completed every missions.