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[The Elder King]

Chignon wrote...

Maelora wrote...

I mean sure, I expected some losses and some knocks... But I'd hope they would tie into your choices. 

Even in the ME2 suicide mission, people die only if you've messed up.   Likewise, in DAO it was possible to kill off companions by making bad choices.

I appreciate we haven't seen the whole game yet, but this just feels like overkill misery to me. 

That was what I was thinking as well. Your only surviving sibling dies, your mother is killed by a serial killer, most of your companions betray you - BioWare is - from what I've seen so far - taking the whole grim/dark trope to a whole new level.

Leliana, Wynne, Sten, Shale and Zevran can betray you in DAO. Like in Origins, you can prevent their betrayal.
And the sibling don't die necessarily. They can join Templars/Circle, or the GW.

Modifié par hhh89, 05 mars 2011 - 07:02 .

[True Zarken]

*glares at Leliana seekerness* Yes I am very mature  But I do like her new head morph. 

So it seems even Orsino is an idiot. Fanbloodytastic. Please make there be a neutral option  \\

Modifié par True Zarken, 05 mars 2011 - 07:01 .

[Zabaniya]

Leliana's face is the best thing that happened to this thread.

[JetsoverEverything]

hhh89 wrote...

Cylanthegreat wrote...

Once again, this reminds me of the old phrase "You can never please everyone."  Considering that there were always complaints that Origins was never 'dark' enough.

Now we have some incredibly dark stuff going on and people are saying that it's too dark.  If all this stuff is really going to happen and not just the person who said this stuff trolling, then I'm going to feel *really* sorry for my Hawke.  Also, if there was a way to have Carver alive *and* be a warrior/rogue, I'd so do that so I could have a Rogue Hawke, Carver, Merrill, and Anders party...ah well.  I saw people in the livestream a few days back (just want to say this, NOT going to give a link or anything) that gave Carver a lot of crap whenever he opened his mouth, but I can really see where he's coming from in a lot of his dialogue, he even had a point most of the time. 

I'm also loving how it seems *everyone* can possibly die at one point or another, with the only person we *know* is going to survive being Varric(who has to survive in order to narrate the story).  It may make the inevitable Dragon Age 3 cameos of DA2 characters harder to do, but it'll be completely, utterly worth it to have a truly reactive game that really *is* reactive, as the developers have said, within it's own game as opposed to somewhere down the line in a sequal. 

Overall, the spoilers are actually exciting me *more* for the release...call me weird.  You could lay out the entire plot of a story-driven game to me and I'd still buy it.

I agree with you. I love the story so far. My only complaint is on the family part, especially Leandra. I don't see any reason why we can't have the possibility to save her.

everybody is judging the game of ONE person's default playthrough i think it ridiculous...

[MJF JD]

at least leliana didnt get zevraned

[The Elder King]

JetsoverEverything wrote...

hhh89 wrote...


I agree with you. I love the story so far. My only complaint is on the family part, especially Leandra. I don't see any reason why we can't have the possibility to save her.

everybody is judging the game of ONE person's default playthrough i think it ridiculous...

I said in a lot of posts that I think that there is the possibility to save Leandra.

Modifié par hhh89, 05 mars 2011 - 07:02 .

[thesuperdarkone]

ankuu wrote...

Okay i took screens of the most important ones. Keep in mind that i didn't listen to the audio, didn't want to spoil myself too much. I might look at more of these.

1) Cutscene entitled chantry explosion
Shows the Grand Cleric Elrina running away with other people while the chantry gets destroyed by a red light.

2)Cutscene entitled Orsino defiance
Shows Orsino doing some sort of a magical ritual then turning into...a harvester.



3)Cutscene entitled epilogue
Show Cassandra going in some sort of courtyard where a large number of seekers are standing. Leliana approaches and Cassandra hands her a book. She leaves and Leliana remains behind, reflective.





4)Cutscene entitled the attack begins
Show Meredith telling her people to charge thru some gates.

 

Got any more of these? Spoiler bomb was exploded 

[Chignon]

hhh89 wrote...

Leliana, Wynne, Sten, Shale and Zevran can betray you in DAO. Like in Origins, you can prevent their betrayal.
And the sibling don't die necessarily. They can join Templars/Circle.

We'll see how much of the betrayal we can prevent, hhh89.

The choice for your siblings is between becoming addicted to lyrium, being locked away in the tower of Magi, becoming a Grey Warden and having to answer the calling or dying in the Deep Roads? Lovely.

[Cylan Cooper]

JetsoverEverything wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Cylanthegreat wrote...

Once again, this reminds me of the old phrase "You can never please everyone."  Considering that there were always complaints that Origins was never 'dark' enough.

Now we have some incredibly dark stuff going on and people are saying that it's too dark.  If all this stuff is really going to happen and not just the person who said this stuff trolling, then I'm going to feel *really* sorry for my Hawke.  Also, if there was a way to have Carver alive *and* be a warrior/rogue, I'd so do that so I could have a Rogue Hawke, Carver, Merrill, and Anders party...ah well.  I saw people in the livestream a few days back (just want to say this, NOT going to give a link or anything) that gave Carver a lot of crap whenever he opened his mouth, but I can really see where he's coming from in a lot of his dialogue, he even had a point most of the time. 

I'm also loving how it seems *everyone* can possibly die at one point or another, with the only person we *know* is going to survive being Varric(who has to survive in order to narrate the story).  It may make the inevitable Dragon Age 3 cameos of DA2 characters harder to do, but it'll be completely, utterly worth it to have a truly reactive game that really *is* reactive, as the developers have said, within it's own game as opposed to somewhere down the line in a sequal. 

Overall, the spoilers are actually exciting me *more* for the release...call me weird.  You could lay out the entire plot of a story-driven game to me and I'd still buy it.

I agree with you. I love the story so far. My only complaint is on the family part, especially Leandra. I don't see any reason why we can't have the possibility to save her.

everybody is judging the game of ONE person's default playthrough i think it ridiculous...

I'm not judging, I'm just saying that it's nice that it seems that nobody is truly safe from the possibility of dying.  Or being screwed over heavily, at the very least.  *points to the child whom Zeus Hawke stole money from*

[dreamextractor]

xnalimov wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

xnalimov wrote...

I don't know if it was mentioned but in one of the BIC's we see Orsino turn into a Flesh-golem.

Really? Which side the player choose?

i've made a mistake. not BICs but BIKs. there are in the movies folder. so i don't really know which side player must choose to get this. just the fact that orsino is probably is another final boss (assuming if meredith is a final boss) 
there is also a BIK of Chantry blowing up and another one with Leliana.
P.S. above me you can see the screens

Wouldn't you need to have the game torrented for that?

 

Modifié par dreamextractor, 05 mars 2011 - 07:05 .

[xnalimov]

everyone who has the game preloaded can watch a few BIKs in the movies folder (C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Dragon Age 2 Demo\\modules\\campaign_base\\data\\movies). no audio though.
P.S. use bink video player

Modifié par xnalimov, 05 mars 2011 - 07:08 .

[The Elder King]

Chignon wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Leliana, Wynne, Sten, Shale and Zevran can betray you in DAO. Like in Origins, you can prevent their betrayal.
And the sibling don't die necessarily. They can join Templars/Circle.

We'll see how much of the betrayal we can prevent, hhh89.

The choice for your siblings is between becoming addicted to lyrium, being locked away in the tower of Magi, becoming a Grey Warden and having to answer the calling or dying in the Deep Roads? Lovely.

I am not saying that the options for the sibling are nice, but it's better to be dead on the moment.
About the betrayal, maybe my previous post is too optimistic. Maybe we can't prevent all the betraya, but at least some of that (Isabela at least seems we can).

[Thicos]

why not specializations pics? from hawke and companions?
are you actually playing or getting it from somewhere?

[fighterchick]

Jeez, to all the people that are complaining about the betrayals/deaths, it depends on your gameplay and choices. You can't take one person's game as fact for how it's going to all play out. Your companions will react according to how you play your game. If you're going to knock the entire game, don't you think you should wait until you play it?

[FASherman]

JSLfromBx wrote...

dreamextractor wrote...

JSLfromBx wrote...

Would be nice of the people who got the same if they could do something actually usefull like posting up to date information on skill tree and specialization instead of completly giving away all the story of the game.

This thread is called a SPOILER thread for a reason, people want spoilers so they're going to post spoilers first instead.

yes Mr smartass  it says spoiler, nowhere does it say Story spoiler. there is world of differences betwen gameplay spoilers and ruining the entire plot of the game.

Gameplay spoiler help making your first playthrough more enjoyable as it help avoiding mistake when building your party.
Story spoilers, well there is nothing even remotely positive about story spoiler.

Knowing that bethany is only a temporary companion who never unlock any specialisation, well that's gameplay spoiler as you know you can't rely on her when building your party.
Knowing WHY she is not available for long is a huge story spoiler that serve no purpose other than ruining your enjoyment of your first playthrough.

a shame that so many on this thread seem to be incapable of undertsanding the difference.

Do you need help removing that stick?

[Chignon]

hhh89 wrote...

I am not saying that the options for the sibling are nice, but it's better to be dead on the moment.
About the betrayal, maybe my previous post is too optimistic. Maybe we can't prevent all the betraya, but at least some of that (Isabela at least seems we can).

If they're better than death is debatable, I think, but to each their own. I don't mean to come off as contrary - I'm only a bit disappointed with how the family is handled. At least from what I've seen so far.

I, too, hope we can prevent at least the majority of the companions betrayals.

[The Elder King]

Chignon wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

I am not saying that the options for the sibling are nice, but it's better to be dead on the moment.
About the betrayal, maybe my previous post is too optimistic. Maybe we can't prevent all the betraya, but at least some of that (Isabela at least seems we can).

If they're better than death is debatable, I think, but to each their own. I don't mean to come off as contrary - I'm only a bit disappointed with how the family is handled. At least from what I've seen so far.

I, too, hope we can prevent at least the majority of the companions betrayals.

Of course, is only my opinion about sibling. It's not better in general, it's better for me:)

[Zabaniya]

Thicos wrote...

why not specializations pics? from hawke and companions?
are you actually playing or getting it from somewhere?

There's another thread for the specialization talents and whatnot.

http://social.biowar...index/6359674/1

[Browneye_Vamp84]

oh i see.. Leliana looks no different but Zev... looks like hes been through hell and back LOL

[JetsoverEverything]

hhh89 wrote...

JetsoverEverything wrote...

hhh89 wrote...


I agree with you. I love the story so far. My only complaint is on the family part, especially Leandra. I don't see any reason why we can't have the possibility to save her.

everybody is judging the game of ONE person's default playthrough i think it ridiculous...

I said in a lot of posts that I think that there is the possibility to save Leandra.

there should be. i belive if you do the quest involving the serial killer you should be able to save your mother if you decide to stop him.

[The Elder King]

JetsoverEverything wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

JetsoverEverything wrote...

hhh89 wrote...


I agree with you. I love the story so far. My only complaint is on the family part, especially Leandra. I don't see any reason why we can't have the possibility to save her.

everybody is judging the game of ONE person's default playthrough i think it ridiculous...

I said in a lot of posts that I think that there is the possibility to save Leandra.

there should be. i belive if you do the quest involving the serial killer you should be able to save your mother if you decide to stop him.

I agree, but I'm not sure that this quest exist. But I'm gonna explore every bit of Kirkwall to find it.

[fighterchick]

JetsoverEverything wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

JetsoverEverything wrote...

hhh89 wrote...


I agree with you. I love the story so far. My only complaint is on the family part, especially Leandra. I don't see any reason why we can't have the possibility to save her.

everybody is judging the game of ONE person's default playthrough i think it ridiculous...

I said in a lot of posts that I think that there is the possibility to save Leandra.

there should be. i belive if you do the quest involving the serial killer you should be able to save your mother if you decide to stop him.

There's an Orlesian woman who goes missing from her husband and the family suspects the husband.  Do this quest, you learn more women have gone missing, KEEP DOING THIS QUEST.  

[Mr.House]

Leli being a Seeker is epic OOC for sure and contradicts my pt where she was in a romance with the Warden and was with them before they died...

[The Elder King]

fighterchicks wrote...



There's an Orlesian woman who goes missing from her husband and the family suspects the husband.  Do this quest, you learn more women have gone missing, KEEP DOING THIS QUEST.  

Thank you:)

Modifié par hhh89, 05 mars 2011 - 07:24 .

[GameBoyish]

The Leli part says epilogue? Could it be after the game finishes..?