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[Phate Phoenix]

Alright, got a couple of questions.

1) Do gifts only increase friendship scores, or is there a conversation that takes place that allows you to increase rivalry, too?

and 2) Does Anders get another cat?

[tankgirly]

siebenhens wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

What's sad is that by the time some of you actually reach your first playthrough of the game, you'll know so much it'll be like your second playthrough-- and then you'll wonder why nothing seems new or surprising, I suppose.

Ah, well. The thread is clearly marked spoilers, so knock yourselves out, I guess.

Some of the assumptions regarding what your found are rather amusing to read, anyhow.

Gotta Love David Gaider!!!

Ah I agree, spoilers suck and some people have too much time on their hands.

It's people like  you who ruin games!

Then there is the little X on the top right hand corner.

More of us now determine to play the game, and get the guide. I believe it actually boost the sales.

[dreamextractor]

Don't feed the boring troll, people

[LilyasAvalon]

siebenhens wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

What's sad is that by the time some of you actually reach your first playthrough of the game, you'll know so much it'll be like your second playthrough-- and then you'll wonder why nothing seems new or surprising, I suppose.

Ah, well. The thread is clearly marked spoilers, so knock yourselves out, I guess.

Some of the assumptions regarding what your found are rather amusing to read, anyhow.

Gotta Love David Gaider!!!

Ah I agree, spoilers suck and some people have too much time on their hands.

It's people like  you who ruin games!

We're only ruining it for ourselves. =/

As long as we keep it on here, it doesn't matter. Besides, David of all people should know about 70% of the fangirls will be too busy oggling Sebastian/Fenris/Varric/Anders to remember half this stuff anyway.

[tankgirly]

tankgirly wrote...

Summary, time. Everyone.


First things first, we have this lovely warning from the dev:

Lukas Kristjanson wrote...

A reminder for the late shift, spoilers stay in this thread which is tolerated only because it is clearly marked. No drift to other threads. And hey, as a personal preference, how about no giggly little "OMG, I just heard something, go to spoilerz!" posts. Seriously, don't be that guy.

And no more stream link . We got warning, too.

And for the save measure, I removed all the screenie you guys had painstakingly taken. Thank you. I will keep it in a saved file and quard it day and night.

The bold ones are the updates since the last post.

Summary


1. Zevran appeared in one of the Sundermount quest. His screenie
2. Nathaniel appeared in one of the Deep Road quest.
3. Leliana appeared in one of the Basti quest. Possible Leliana
4. Fenris live in what possibly his former master's mansion (next door to Hawk's), Merill in Alienage, Anders in his clinic, Isabela and Varric, not certain about Aveline or Basti
5. There is a cap on levels, though I got very confused about the numbers.
6. Bethany has three endings: Join the Circle, Died in the Deep Road, or Join the GW (?)
7. Carver has three endings: Join the Templar, Died in the DR, or Join the GW.
8. The talking darkspawn Disciple appeared in the DR.
9. There is something about Meredith's eyes.
10. Meredith is one of the final boss.
11. Defeating Meredith is one of the secret achievement.
12. Some dialogue by Hawk's mother hinted she was not aware of whatever Hawk's relationship was in.
13. Hawk was  in Kirkwall when the news of the Blight was finished by the Warden reached him/her.

14. Fenris' former Tevinter Magister Master's name is Danarius.
15. A quick look at the erf files hints that these are some of the gifts for the companions. Take this as extreme speculation:

Anders: Key + an amulet
Aveline: Shield
Fenris: Book + a sword
Isabela: Ship?! + a talisman
Merrill: Halla?! + a ring
Sebastian: Bow

How to access the file from the demo: Program Files>Dragon Age 2 Demo>modules>campaign_base>data>designerplots in wordpad/notepad and search "gift".
16. There is a new blood mage speciality (?)
17. And Aveline/Quanary Quest Link
18. Fenris apprear to hate mage and thinks everyone should be made tranquil. (Possible only rivarly romance route for the mage Hawk).
19. Anders appear to hate Templar.
20. Merrill appears to be bi.
21. Cullen appeared in one of the guest, along with some guy named Wilmod LInk
22. There is a brothel in Kirkwall (right, very important to some of us!).
23. There is a blood mage sanctuary and it doesn't seem to be Anders clinic.
24. Carver and Bethany's codex entries
25. DA II Gaming guide
(possiblly partial)
26. According to the quides. Cameos from the Origins series:


Alistair
Leliana
Zevran
Nathaniel
Bodhan and Sandal
Cullen
Justice?
Sketch
Bonny Lem
Sophia Dryden

27.Infos floating around 4chan suggested Flemeth might played bigger role in DA II (possibly the spirit possessed Meredith).
28. Basti is an LI.
29. It is very strongly suggested Anders could be bi (from his flirt with H!Hawk and the traguil mage KArl he was trying to rescue).
30. The ritual mentionted in Merrill's backstory involves her chanting in Dalish and Flemeth pops out of the amulet (Lord Vordy in HP!!!!!!!!!!!!!). IT seems she put a little piece of her soul in it because she figured that Morrigan would come back with the Warden to kill her. She gives some cryptic advice and says that she's thankful, but she pities Hawke because of the road ahead. She then turns into a dragon and flies off.
31. Sandle was in game.
32. Zathrian was mentioned in game.
33. There is minore flirting line on Carver to Merrill!!!OMG!!!!
34. Merrill: "Why do they called it Brothel? Does that have something do to with broth?"
35. Cullen is now the Knight Captain (wow).
36. Fenris is also strongly suggested he is bi. We now have all 4 bi.
37. There are several Qunari related quest in Kirkwall (to my delight).
38. Fenris's preslave name is Leto.
39. Fenris had a sister, who was sided with Danarius, his former magister master.
40. One of the quest to separate Anders and Justice.

41. When going to the Deep Road, if you take Bethany/Carver with you, Bethany/Carver will contract the taint and you will have the choice to slay them or leave them in the DR. This is possibly when your Awakening import save file click in. Nathaniel will save Bethany/Carver by making them a Grey Warden.
42. If you leave them in their estate, Bethany will be dragged away and join the Circle and Carver will join the Templar willingly.
43. Mama Hawk could be died,too.

44. Zevran will flirt with you and tried to sleep with you, then your LI will step in.
45. The Warden will be mentioned by Zevran.
46. Hawk can sleep with Zevran.
47. The "relic" was a holy Qunari book written by the founder of the Qun religion.
48. The Arishok will not be allowed to leave Kirkwall until he finds that book.
49. Issie knew a along what the relic was.
50. During the Fade quest, a demon would offer Merrill a scion of the Dalish. Delined to let Merrill to do it will result in rivalry level inclease.
51. Merill has an Eluvian in her bedroom and her quests are trying to get it back in working order.

52. There will be LI confrontation.
53. Aveline will remarried and honeymooned in Orlais.
54. If you made Bhelen king in DA:O Harrowmont's relative is in Kirkwall.
55. There's a man being confronted by a group of dalish, and he said he used to be a werewolf, but the hero of Ferelden helped him turn back. And he said he was sorry for killing the elves when he was a werwolf, but the dalish still want to kill him. You can step in and help him, and the elves get angry and attack.
56. The subquests hinting the main plot: Mages V.S. Templars.
57. At one stage you will receive the letter from King Alistair, which triggered the cameo (assumed you let Alistair as king in Origin) of Ali and Teagan.
58. Cullen was also suspecious of Meredith.
59. Merrill was being used by the demon to complete the mirror so they can channel to the real world (Doctor Who!!!!!!!!!)
60. Merrill's Keeper was the demon (no wonder she looks different) and her clan will turn against you once you kill her.
61. There's an Orlesian woman who goes missing from her husband and the family suspects the husband. Do this quest, you learn more women have gone missing, KEEP DOING THIS QUEST.
62. One of the Anders ending (surely it depends on the Rilvary/Friendly scale) was He didn't want help separating Justice from him. He was concocting something to destroy The Chantry. He blew up the ENTIRE freaking Chantry in Kirkwall with some massive spell.Then Meredith ordered The Right of Annulment to execute every Mage in Kirkwall.
63. There are 13 different endinds.
64. Letter from Alistair quest is in Act 3.
65. Track down Zevran quest was given on the quest giver.
66. Morrigan is mentioned by Flemeth but no cameo.
67. It was Leliana who retrieved the book Cassandra tossed at Varric at the beginning of the game. It was indicated that she joined the Seekers in order to search for the Warden (KOTOR!).

Move it here, too.

[Rinji the Bearded]

arsonic wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

tankgirly wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Why does everyone end up either dead or running off? T_T

I believe whoever LI you choose to romance will stay with you.

If you don't kill them.  

Exactly. I sort of hope that Anders wouldn't decide not to decimate the Chantry just because you were in love- that seems like a very narrowing thing to do to the player. "If you don't fall in love with me, I'm gone!"

Rather, I would hope it to be somewhat like DA:O where you could get the same results with high approval (in this case Rivalry or Friendship) Character wise, if you were in a Friendly romance or just friends with Anders and agreeing with him totally, the Chantry thing probably wouldn't bug you. With any luck, Rivalry will go the same way.

Oh yeah, I'm sure a 100+ Friendly Romance will not persuade Anders otherwise.  Heck, maybe he'll INVITE you to come along.  Klace, were you at 100 Friendship with Anders?  I heard that getting to either extreme (friendship/rivalry)  is going to be very important...

Rivalry Romance... that's what I wanna know about.

[Tamyn]

Heh. There's a rumor that the pigeon population in Ferelden is plummeting.

[KenKenpachi]

arsonic wrote...
EDIT: I was told the Fadeshear/Lion Shield codes would be on the bottom of the GameStop reciept at pickup. They did the same thing for Gran Turismo 5 with me, so I'd just double check that. (Former store manager here- all his info about midnight pickup is spot on:P)

Wow thats just ****in lame. I mean expected it but, serriously so its a box with SE on it and everything else is on the sales ticket, Son, I is dissapoint.

[Blood-Lord Thanatos]

Tamyn wrote...

Heh. There's a rumor that the pigeon population in Ferelden is plummeting.

Shayle of House Cadash, Bird hunter supreme!

[arsonic]

Phate Phoenix wrote...

Alright, got a couple of questions.

1) Do gifts only increase friendship scores, or is there a conversation that takes place that allows you to increase rivalry, too?

and 2) Does Anders get another cat?

"A gift, for instance, could be taken very differently depending on whether a companion is a friend or rival. You give a warrior a sword, for instance, and a friend might react by being grateful. A rival might react by saying, "What? Why do you think I need this? Keep it." There might be different rewards depending on which path you're on, but the idea is that they're both legitimate paths with the potential to reach an end destination (ie. a strong relationship with that companion)."-David Gaider, in this thread

...so I guess it would increase Rivalry? Not completely sure.

No idea on the cat, alas.

Modifié par arsonic, 06 mars 2011 - 02:42 .

[Some Geth]

Tamyn wrote...

Heh. There's a rumor that the pigeon population in Ferelden is plummeting.

LOL:lol:

[Klace]

Tamyn wrote...

Heh. There's a rumor that the pigeon population in Ferelden is plummeting.

Yup if you talk to the Bartender.

[LilyasAvalon]

Women going missing? I suspect an underground demon brothel of sorts. >> << >>

[Rinji the Bearded]

DEATH TO ALL PIGEONS!

[Klace]

arsonic wrote...

Phate Phoenix wrote...

Alright, got a couple of questions.

1) Do gifts only increase friendship scores, or is there a conversation that takes place that allows you to increase rivalry, too?

and 2) Does Anders get another cat?

"A gift, for instance, could be taken very differently depending on whether a companion is a friend or rival. You give a warrior a sword, for instance, and a friend might react by being grateful. A rival might react by saying, "What? Why do you think I need this? Keep it." There might be different rewards depending on which path you're on, but the idea is that they're both legitimate paths with the potential to reach an end destination (ie. a strong relationship with that companion)."-David Gaider, in this thread

...so I guess it would increase Rivalry? Not completely sure.

No idea on the cat, alas.

One of the companion chats is Merill telling Anders they sell cats in a bazaar.
And he says: "Do they have tabbies? I'd like a Tabby."

[Rinji the Bearded]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Women going missing? I suspect an underground demon brothel of sorts. >> << >>

No no... no, that's not it at all, sadly.

[Phate Phoenix]

arsonic wrote...

Phate Phoenix wrote...

Alright, got a couple of questions.

1) Do gifts only increase friendship scores, or is there a conversation that takes place that allows you to increase rivalry, too?

and 2) Does Anders get another cat?

"A gift, for instance, could be taken very differently depending on whether a companion is a friend or rival. You give a warrior a sword, for instance, and a friend might react by being grateful. A rival might react by saying, "What? Why do you think I need this? Keep it." There might be different rewards depending on which path you're on, but the idea is that they're both legitimate paths with the potential to reach an end destination (ie. a strong relationship with that companion)."-David Gaider, in this thread

...so I guess it would increase Rivalry? Not completely sure.

No idea on the cat, alas.

Oh, awesome.  I was worried for a moment that all gifts would equal a friendship boost which, as we can see, could lead to VERY BAD THINGS. Good to know that this isn't necessarily the case.

And curses on the cat.


EDIT:

Klace wrote...

One of the companion chats is Merill telling Anders they sell cats in a bazaar.
And he says: "Do they have tabbies? I'd like a Tabby."

Well, at least that's something. I suppose. Here's hoping we can actually get him another cat.

Modifié par Phate Phoenix, 06 mars 2011 - 02:41 .

[LilyasAvalon]

RinjiRenee wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Women going missing? I suspect an underground demon brothel of sorts. >> << >>

No no... no, that's not it at all, sadly.

Andraste's knickers...

...The only other thing that comes to mind is broodmothe-

...*Shudder* Dear Maker, no. Just. No.

[arsonic]

KenKenpachi wrote...

arsonic wrote...
EDIT: I was told the Fadeshear/Lion Shield codes would be on the bottom of the GameStop reciept at pickup. They did the same thing for Gran Turismo 5 with me, so I'd just double check that. (Former store manager here- all his info about midnight pickup is spot on:P)

Wow thats just ****in lame. I mean expected it but, serriously so its a box with SE on it and everything else is on the sales ticket, Son, I is dissapoint.

Well, everyone who preordered gets Fadeshear and the Shield, to be fair. It's the easiest way to do it. The SE stuff includes Sebastian and a bunch of other accessories. That I expect will be locked tightly away in your shrink wrap.

[Klace]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Women going missing? I suspect an underground demon brothel of sorts. >> << >>

No no... no, that's not it at all, sadly.

Andraste's knickers...

...The only other thing that comes to mind is broodmothe-

...*Shudder* Dear Maker, no. Just. No.

It's a murderer killing woman and using their pieces to reconstruct his dead wife.
He kills Hawke's mum.

[UndercoverDoctor]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Women going missing? I suspect an underground demon brothel of sorts. >> << >>

No no... no, that's not it at all, sadly.

Andraste's knickers...

...The only other thing that comes to mind is broodmothe-

...*Shudder* Dear Maker, no. Just. No.

I thought it was a serial killer.

[LilyasAvalon]

... That's even WORSE! D=

Wait, I thought it was optional whether Hawke's mom dies or not, can you prevent this?

Modifié par LilyasAvalon, 06 mars 2011 - 02:42 .

[Rinji the Bearded]

I wonder what Seb's friendship/rivalry will do... Oh, Team Harem, you're going to be SO MESSED UP.

[UndercoverDoctor]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

... That's even WORSE! D=

Wait, I thought it was optional whether Hawke's mom dies or not, can you prevent this?

DARK FANTASY